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ButchA 01-16-2006 08:40 AM

Virginia Sunday hunting..... (again)
 
Hey guys...

There is a new House Bill (632) out that is proposing Sunday hunting in Virginia, but only west of the Blue Ridge.

Check this out:
http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?061+ful+HB632

Also, here is the latest status of the bill that you can follow up on:
http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?061+sum+HB632

What do you all think?

rick64 01-16-2006 04:01 PM

RE: Virginia Sunday hunting..... (again)
 
I remember the new Governor'sresponse to the question of Sunday hunting. He was not in favor of it at all. The other candidates were in favor of Sunday hunting.[/align]

ButchA 01-16-2006 05:12 PM

RE: Virginia Sunday hunting..... (again)
 
Rick,

In the Roanoke paper (Bill Cochran's column), there was an interview with the 3 candidates....

Kaine: Supports hunting on Sundays.
Kilgore: Might support it, but only on private land.
Potts: Doesn't want it, doesn't care. Doesn't hunt or fish. :eek:

Let me try to dig up the article and I'll post the link...

Butch A.

Edit: Bingo!!! Here's the link....
http://www.roanoke.com/outdoors/wb/wb/xp-38276

VAhuntr 01-16-2006 05:30 PM

RE: Virginia Sunday hunting..... (again)
 
IMO, I feel if youallow Sunday huntingin part of the state, you shouldallow it for all of the state. I hunt mainly east of the blue ridge but I have land in thewestso I would take advantage of it. I would much rather see Sunday hunting state wide and a September bow opener such as the case in North Carolina.

cville hunter 01-17-2006 09:28 AM

RE: Virginia Sunday hunting..... (again)
 
I agree with VAhunter, allow it in the entire state. Honestly it doesn't make sense to restricthunting on private lands on sundays. being a graduate student i have relatively little time to hunt except on weekends so this would be ideal for me. Regarding state lands, people also have a right to enjoy state land one day a week without fear of careless hunters.

its a no brainer to me, especially if the government wants to better control the deer population. The yearly and seasonal bag limits would still be in place (thus avoiding over harvesting), you would just be giving hunters a better chance of filling those tags and controlling the population.

ButchA 01-17-2006 01:55 PM

RE: Virginia Sunday hunting..... (again)
 
Guys,

Here's another update: There are a total of 3 house/senate bills for 2006!! [8D]

Sunday hunting only west of the Blue Ridge
http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?061+ful+HB632

Sunday hunting but only in certain localities and ordinances
http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?061+ful+HB711

Sunday hunting only on the first Sunday of bow season, ML season, rifle season.
http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?061+ful+SB387

VAhuntr 01-17-2006 06:19 PM

RE: Virginia Sunday hunting..... (again)
 
I'll be suprised if it happens anytime soon. Of those 3 bills you mentioned, I like the one that gives the localities the control the best. I definately do not like the east/west blue ridge, nor do I like the opening Sunday of each season either. IMO, if you allow Sunday hunting it should be statewide and last through the entire hunting season.

coachsteve 01-18-2006 04:06 PM

RE: Virginia Sunday hunting..... (again)
 
I would love to see it come true personally.

AppalachianTracker 01-18-2006 08:34 PM

RE: Virginia Sunday hunting..... (again)
 
I like the Sunday off...It gives my feet and the deer time to rest. Virginia has faced this issue many times and it hasn't passed. On the other hand West Virginia has hunted on Sundays in past seasons, so there is precedent. My preference is an earlier bow season like NC, say the 15th...instead of a Sunday of hunting.

coolbrze0 01-19-2006 05:29 AM

RE: Virginia Sunday hunting..... (again)
 

ORIGINAL: AppalachianTracker

I like the Sunday off...It gives my feet and the deer time to rest. Virginia has faced this issue many times and it hasn't passed. On the other hand West Virginia has hunted on Sundays in past seasons, so there is precedent. My preference is an earlier bow season like NC, say the 15th...instead of a Sunday of hunting.
What he said. I like the day off to rest. Of course, I've got a schedule that's about as flexible as they come so I can hunt most any day of the week.

VAhuntr 01-19-2006 06:58 AM

RE: Virginia Sunday hunting..... (again)
 

Original: AppalachianTracker

I like the Sunday off...It gives my feet and the deer time to rest. Virginia has faced this issue many times and it hasn't passed. On the other hand West Virginia has hunted on Sundays in past seasons, so there is precedent. My preference is an earlier bow season like NC, say the 15th...instead of a Sunday of hunting.

I understand your point butdeer hunting is one way that I personally relax. It can be hardwork at times but I do not consider it that way. Even if Sunday hunting were legal, you still have the option to go or stay home.

I'm like coolbrze0, I have an excellent work schedule so I am able to hunt during the week and every other weekend.I guess for me it is just the desire to have the option of hunting on Sundayslike the majortiy of the country.

02bhntn 01-19-2006 10:10 AM

RE: Virginia Sunday hunting..... (again)
 

ORIGINAL: AppalachianTracker

I like the Sunday off...It gives my feet and the deer time to rest. Virginia has faced this issue many times and it hasn't passed. On the other hand West Virginia has hunted on Sundays in past seasons, so there is precedent. My preference is an earlier bow season like NC, say the 15th...instead of a Sunday of hunting.
There is scientific soundness that states that hunting 7 days a week will have no ramification on the population. Matt Knox of the VDGIF has stated this same thing many times. The deer need a rest my a$$. give me a break. Do you fish? Don't you think they need a break as well I propose that there be no fishing on sundays either. If we are going to discriminate against one groupe of outdoorsmen then we shold do it for all.

No need to worry though the bills that were proposed in the house werr killed in committee, so I guess you got your wish.

ButchA 01-19-2006 10:52 AM

RE: Virginia Sunday hunting..... (again)
 

ORIGINAL: 02bhntn


ORIGINAL: AppalachianTracker

I like the Sunday off...It gives my feet and the deer time to rest. Virginia has faced this issue many times and it hasn't passed. On the other hand West Virginia has hunted on Sundays in past seasons, so there is precedent. My preference is an earlier bow season like NC, say the 15th...instead of a Sunday of hunting.
There is scientific soundness that states that hunting 7 days a week will have no ramification on the population. Matt Knox of the VDGIF has stated this same thing many times. The deer need a rest my a$$. give me a break. Do you fish? Don't you think they need a break as well I propose that there be no fishing on sundays either. If we are going to discriminate against one groupe of outdoorsmen then we shold do it for all.

No need to worry though the bills that were proposed in the house werr killed in committee, so I guess you got your wish.

WHAT?!?!?![:@]

o2b... you got news that I don't know about? When did the committee kill the proposed bills?!?! Aaaaaaaaaargh!!!! [:@]


02bhntn 01-19-2006 11:27 AM

RE: Virginia Sunday hunting..... (again)
 

ORIGINAL: ButchA


ORIGINAL: 02bhntn


ORIGINAL: AppalachianTracker

I like the Sunday off...It gives my feet and the deer time to rest. Virginia has faced this issue many times and it hasn't passed. On the other hand West Virginia has hunted on Sundays in past seasons, so there is precedent. My preference is an earlier bow season like NC, say the 15th...instead of a Sunday of hunting.
There is scientific soundness that states that hunting 7 days a week will have no ramification on the population. Matt Knox of the VDGIF has stated this same thing many times. The deer need a rest my a$$. give me a break. Do you fish? Don't you think they need a break as well I propose that there be no fishing on sundays either. If we are going to discriminate against one groupe of outdoorsmen then we shold do it for all.

No need to worry though the bills that were proposed in the house werr killed in committee, so I guess you got your wish.

WHAT?!?!?![:@]

o2b... you got news that I don't know about? When did the committee kill the proposed bills?!?! Aaaaaaaaaargh!!!! [:@]

Butch,

I knew you'd blow your stack when you saw that but I thought I'd put it out there. This is an email I got from Delegate Plum this morning


"Mr. Patrick,
House Bils 632 and 711 were heard in subcommittee yesterday evening. Unfortunately, the subcommittee voted to recommend to the full committee that these bills not be passed. I was one of 2 members of the subcommittee who voted against killing the bills, as I personally believe there would be nothing wrong with being able to hunt on Sudnays.
It is highly unlikely that the committee will report these bills out. Just wanted you to know the subcommittee's action last night.
Delegate Ken Plum
36th House District"



VAhuntr 01-19-2006 01:03 PM

RE: Virginia Sunday hunting..... (again)
 
I don't buy the argument that deer need a day of rest either. I would be suprised if VA passed Sunday hunting in the next 10 years....been talked about and shot down for too many years now.

ButchA 01-19-2006 01:14 PM

RE: Virginia Sunday hunting..... (again)
 
Let me sum this up as succinctly as I can.....

AAAAAAAAAAAARGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[:@]

rick64 01-19-2006 04:07 PM

RE: Virginia Sunday hunting..... (again)
 
Your right Butch, I guess my wife is right about my selective memory. The interview I read was by Ken Perrotte in the Free-Lance Star.[/align][/align]http://fredericksburg.com/News/FLS/2005/092005/09292005/132737[/align][/align]About the same questions and answers. I would like to see it changed, I work on Sat. mornings. Did you have any luck this season?[/align]

ButchA 01-19-2006 04:45 PM

RE: Virginia Sunday hunting..... (again)
 

ORIGINAL: rick64
Did you have any luck this season?
[/align]
My season was the usual.... SKUNKED AGAIN!!! The only way I'm gonna get a deer, is if I go out and buy one (canned hunt ranch). [&o] But, I can't bring myself to do something like that, because it's not true hunting.

Regarding Sunday hunting, at least I can hunt up in upstate New York on my sister/brother-in-law's 125 acre farm anytime I want (Sunday's included!). All it'll cost me is a $110 non-resident license.


02bhntn 01-20-2006 05:16 AM

RE: Virginia Sunday hunting..... (again)
 
Folks,

There is a correction from Delegate Plums office:


Mr. Patrick,
I was in error. The other "aye" vote was from Delegate Eisenberg of Arlington.
Barbara Shearer
Legislative Assistant to Del. Ken Plum

Just wanted to let you know.

Enjoy the end of Duck and Goose season. I know I willl.

ButchA 01-20-2006 09:06 AM

RE: Virginia Sunday hunting..... (again)
 
Guys,

I just sent a huge email to all the senators involved with SB387. Plus I have a phone call into Senator Stolle's office and also contacted my local senator, Senator Stosch here in Richmond.

If SB387 is the last effort we have for Sunday hunting, then I'm going all out on this one.... The year is 2006 people.... not 1886!!!! Can we puh-leeze get with the times!!! [:@]

VAhuntr 01-20-2006 07:57 PM

RE: Virginia Sunday hunting..... (again)
 

original: ButchA

My season was the usual.... SKUNKED AGAIN!!! The only way I'm gonna get a deer, is if I go out and buy one (canned hunt ranch). [&o] But, I can't bring myself to do something like that, because it's not true hunting.


Keep it up and you will eventually score. Got to respect you for not going the route of a canned hunt. Have you thought about trying the urban archery season? It's open until March 25th. I have hunted a few places and the landowners have been very happy to give permission. Surely you could find a place to hunt in Richmond, Colonial Heights, Emporia, Farmville or Franklin. Might be worth a try.....may not work out right now but you might get some leads for the upcoming season.

ButchA 01-23-2006 07:33 PM

RE: Virginia Sunday hunting..... (again)
 
Thanks... I'm going to hunt up in upstate NY on my sister & brother-in-law's farm next season when I can take some vacation. $110 bucks for an out-of-state license is all it'll cost me.

Anyway, getting back on the topic of the never ending saga of Sunday hunting:

UPDATE:

House Bill HB632: Killed in committee by the House Agriculture, Chesapeake & Natural Resources.

House Bill HB711: Killed in committee by the House Agriculture, Chesapeake & Natural Resources.

Senate Bill SB387: Has been "passed over" and/or "tabled" as they say until next Monday. Translation - they don't want to deal with it and will (in political terms), sweep it under the rug and take no action. i.e... out of sight, out of mind. [:@]

But then, you know what? I'm not going to get madover it anymore... I just give up, plain and simple... [&o] One of these days, Virginia will wake up and realize they are creating more poachers and outlaw hunters with these stupid, ancient, laws!

I'm done...

Butch A.

VAhuntr 01-23-2006 10:03 PM

RE: Virginia Sunday hunting..... (again)
 
Thats not bad for the license. Just keep your eyes and ears open and maybe you can find a lease near you. Don't rule out North Carolina either. I hunt NCand thelicense is 140....not too bad. Keep those cities and towns near you in mind for the urban archery season. Might be worth a trip to investigate and talk with some people. I agree with you on the Sunday hunting, but I wonder if it will ever change. You have the right idea about it though, just forget it! Maybe one day we'll pick up the newspaper and read that it has passed!!

ButchA 01-31-2006 11:20 AM

RE: Virginia Sunday hunting..... (again)
 

ORIGINAL: ButchA

UPDATE:

House Bill HB632: Killed in committee by the House Agriculture, Chesapeake & Natural Resources.

House Bill HB711: Killed in committee by the House Agriculture, Chesapeake & Natural Resources.

Senate Bill SB387: Has been "passed over" and/or "tabled" as they say until next Monday. Translation - they don't want to deal with it and will (in political terms), sweep it under the rug and take no action. i.e... out of sight, out of mind. [:@]
UPDATE AGAIN 1/31/06.....

Senate Bill SB387 was passed over/tabled yet again, yesterday 1/30. It's all over with... Let's face it, in Virginia we will NEVER see hunting on a Sunday! You know how it goes, "thou must park thy butt in a church pew and not in a treestand!!!!" [:@]:eek:


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