Those Poor misguided 223 guys.
 

I sure laugh when I see or hunt with those poor misguided 223 guys with there toy want to be rifles. My 22-250 shoots flatter and faster than a 223 will ever go. I figure these guys who shoot them are either too stupid or didn't get through 8th grade to read a ballistics chart. The charts don't lie folks. Seems these 223 shooters are just plain stuck in low gear when it comes to a real caliber. hope they grow up some day and take up a real rifle.

RE: Those Poor misguided 223 guys.
 

Anyone tell you about the barrel wash with the 22-250? The point is to know your gun and its capablities. Do you really think the ground hog, coyote, prairie dog, etc. know how fast that 22-250 was that missed it? In a couple of years when you grow up you'll probably be suffering from that dreaded magnumitus.

RE: Those Poor misguided 223 guys.
 

When are you going to grow up and realize that there is really very little difference between the .223 and 22-250 out to about 250 yards? The .223 is a fine round, and while I prefer the 22-250 myself, I would not insult someone for choosing a .223 instead. In fact, if they can hit with their .223 what I can hit with my 22-250, then they are a better marksman than I am and deserve some respect. I was at the range today with my 22-250 and there was another guy there with a Les Baer Custom .223 that was shooting Black Hills ammo into about .75MOA at 200 yards, one right after the other. That's as good as I can do with my .22-250 Ruger M77VT MkII. I have no doubt that if that guy knows the trajectory of his rifle and can make a decent range and wind call, he'd be able to pop a prairie dog (or anything else) out to at least 400 yards with it, and it's a SEMI-AUTO! I'd like to see that level of accuracy from a semi-auto .22-250.

Oh, and BTW, the 223Rem and 22-250Rem are both the same caliber; caliber .224". They are a different cartridge.

Mike

RE: Those Poor misguided 223 guys.
 

250 rounds of .223 ammo = $62.99

250 rounds of .22-250 ammo = $129.99

RE: Those Poor misguided 223 guys.
 

I use and enjoy both calibers. Mostly .223 here in NY. I would be cautious about calling people stupid when your message is laced with misspelled words and improper grammar. Just my opinion.

RE: Those Poor misguided 223 guys.
 

Tell it to any United States soldier in Iraq, Afghanistan, Haiti, etc.

RE: Those Poor misguided 223 guys.
 

Yeah...right. LMAO:D

RE: Those Poor misguided 223 guys.
 

The only advantage the 22-250 has over the 223 is tragtory. Most guys aren't good enough shot's to take advantage of that! 400 yards shots and beyond is where the 22-250 is suppose to shine, just wasted yardage.

223 will kill PD's, rock chucks, and even coyotes out to 350 and even 400 yards. It uses less powder, brass and ammo are cheap. You can put 20 rounds in your pockets. It's is easier on your ears. The barrel will last twice as long.

Do I shoot long range (400 to 600 yards)? You bet, but I jump up to the 22-243 (with 80 gr VLD bullets and a fast twist barrel), 243 or 25-06. They will buck the wind so much better than a 55 gr bullet out a 22-250.

RE: Those Poor misguided 223 guys.
 

Sounds to me like Daddy bought you a .22-250 and that's all you've ever had... Now your suffering from inferiority complex and think you have to belittle other calibers in order to make up for your own shortcomings...

Anytime you want to get together and put my .223 against your .22-250, just let me know and we'll come back in here and let you apologize for your total misunderstanding of what a .223 is actually capable of...

RE: Those Poor misguided 223 guys.
 

now that is hiting the nail on the head

RE: Those Poor misguided 223 guys.
 

I've seen an awful lot of coyotes and prairie dogs shot with a .223, and none of them lived long enough to give me thier opinion! If your calling coyotes and don't think the .223 is enough gun, I got one thing to say. LEARN HOW TO CALL AND THEY WILL BE PLENTY CLOSE FOR A .223 TO KILL THEM!;)

RE: Those Poor misguided 223 guys.
 

The .223 works fine for the army...im sure it would be fine for hunting small game/varmints

RE: Those Poor misguided 223 guys.
 

Well guys, I think we've been the victims of a "post-and-run". I kindof figured this guy was a troll right from the start, as yesterday he posted 4 posts in 17 minutes, three of which were negative and/or derogatory. Maybe mommy and daddy haven't been monitoring juniors computer time close enough.

Mike

RE: Those Poor misguided 223 guys.
 

Brusser I am sorry to say but, your wrong.... I don’t think you have ever shot a .223 or I think you would change over. My .223 will out shoot you and your gun ... I bet I could out shoot you with a .22 lr ... it sounds to me like you better get some experience before you disrespect a great caliber like a .223.

RE: Those Poor misguided 223 guys.
 

This is a silly discussion. Both the .223 and the .22-250 are excellent rounds if used within their capabilities. Personally, I prefer the .223 but only because I seldom, actually never, get a shot beyond 150 yds.. If I hunted where I could get longer shots I would buy a .22-250. When my shots are limited to under 150 yds. why pay $12.00 per box when I only need to spend $6.00? I'm sure the critters don't know, or care, what I'm shooting.

RE: Those Poor misguided 223 guys.
 

I dont think the critter cares if a 223 or a 458 winchester hit its vitals, either way, its dead.

RE: Those Poor misguided 223 guys.
 

if you want a real gun go spend $2000.00 and some change for a 50 cal. my 50 makes your 22-250 look like a pea shooter. it is only a single shot but you know when you pull the trigger and you know when it hits. oh ya i also love the .223's

RE: Those Poor misguided 223 guys.
 

Hey green...

You can get ya a semi-auto .50 AE for a fair amount of pocket change... ;)

Have you seen these?

Taken from www.tromix.com
50 Action Express –
If you feel the need to blow a large hole in something, the 50 Action Express Sledgehammer is just the ticket. Hurling a 325gr lead brick down range, there isn’t much that is going to take a hit from this beast and keep on ticking. Recoil from the 50AE is quite robust, as is the muzzle blast followed by equally impressive down range destruction. Though the wimpy ass CAR collapsible stocks may work fine with your .223 pop gun, the 50AE will auto-collapse your stock in short order. If you would like to avoid having a divot gouged out of your skull, you better leave the CAR stock to your mouse gun. Take a look at that McDonald Douglas DC-9 center cockpit windshield……nuf said.

Price for Upper: $865 each/shipped.
Configurations may vary,
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RE: Those Poor misguided 223 guys.
 

Ultra-Light 50AE Sledgehammer-
The Tromix Ultra-Light Sledgehammer provides the user with a very quick handling, lightweight carbine using the same stainless steel barrel blanks as the full size uppers, however these barrels are turned to .750” diameter in order to reduce weight. The final weight will vary depending on the gun’s exact configuration and caliber, but typically, the 50AE Ultra-Light rifle will weigh in at 5 ½ pounds unloaded. Compare that to a typical AR-15 A2 .223 caliber rifle, which weighs 8 ½ pounds. Keep in mind however, with the weight reduced to 5 ½ pounds, recoil velocity is substantially increased and would certainly not be welcome in the hands of a wimp.


Price for Upper: $865 each/shipped.
Configurations may vary,
contact Tony for specifics.
For Orders
Contact Tromix

RE: Those Poor misguided 223 guys.
 

Boared,

I think that green, when referring to spending $2000 on a single shot .50cal, was talking about a .50BMG, not .50AE. The .50BMG is a LOT more gun than a .50AE. To the tune of firing a 750 grain bullet at roughly 2800fps. Probably the most powerful rifle shoulder fired rifle you can get. It has over 11,000 (yes, that's eleven thousand) ft-lbs of energy at the muzzle in most loadings. It's definitely not for the faint of heart, although the mandatory high-efficientcy muzzle brakes that all of the .50BMG rifles are equipped with reduce recoil to around that of a 12 gauge magnum slug gun. Still pretty stout.

Here's the rifle I dream about when I get fits of magnumitis...the Barrett M82A1 .50BMG:



Mike

RE: Those Poor misguided 223 guys.
 

Yeah, I knew what he was talking about. I'd like to have one of the BMG's myself, I just couldn't afford the nearly $2-$3 per round to shoot one though LOL. I was only referring to the A&E as a cheap .50 cal in semi-auto configuration. That M82A1 is definitely the roosters crow!!:D

RE: Those Poor misguided 223 guys.
 

Gosh fellows don't be so hard on poor little brusser. It is pretty evident that he just engaged his mouth and for got all about engaging his brain if he has one.

RE: Those Poor misguided 223 guys.
 

Hey brusser,
How much more of an ignorant DUMBA$$ could you be?!?
MH

RE: Those Poor misguided 223 guys.
 

majay says a good chunk aobut the subject plus i shot 2 rabbits this evening after yote hunting and they were out to about 250 yrds. they didnt even move an inch other than drop in there tracks. i love my 223 and it is so inexpensive to shoot. plus i got plenty of range with it for yotes anyway. if u talk big bout ur 22-250 it aint no match for my 30-06 or my buds 300 weatherby mag.

RE: Those Poor misguided 223 guys.
 

How did this post go from 22-250 vs. 223 to 50 cal? Did I miss the new thing of hunting squirrels with 50 cal? If thats the case guess my 300 win is not nearly enough for elk.... What do you guys recommend then??? I have some experience with the 120mm gun on M1A1 tanks.... Is that enough? What should I use for Bear, Nukes? And I don't even want to picture what will be recommended for cape Buffalo:D LMA0