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Austinhuntman 12-25-2012 07:25 PM

What to call coyotes with
I hunt on a lease where we hunt deer turkeys and the occasional small game and hardly ever anyone hunts coyotes I have killed 1 big 55 poun one and a few others have killed some smaller ones I didn't call it in I was deer hunting when he trotted into the food plot and some others were killed while turkey hunting and we only know of 2 being killed using predator calls. So what my question is is what should I do to call in coyotes I am in Tennessee and use a .243 or a muzzleloader so range isn't really a problem we have a quiver critter and an electric call and should I use scents and where do I sit we have hunting houses and tree stands and wooded areas around the food plots. So what should I do. And I had someone suggest that after I kill a deer to put the guts in an area that we call "gut pile creek" where we always dump guts at and just wait

Topgun 3006 12-25-2012 07:28 PM

If nobody has tried calling them in using a turkey call, try it!

Austinhuntman 12-25-2012 07:32 PM

Well some have been killed using turkey calls and I saw 43 the other day at fly down and they were making a racket and not 1 coyote was seen or even heard? Idk if that matters

Nomercy448 12-25-2012 08:37 PM

Turkey calls can work certain times of year, but in my experience, they're not as successful year round. If you are over-run with turkeys, and they're a normal foodsource for coyotes in your area, then you might have better luck year round with it than I have experienced.

Here's a copy/paste job from one of my other responses regarding what calls to use during which part of year (and why I focus on distress call sounds):

Over the last 20yrs+ of calling coyotes, I'd be confident that 90% of my dogs have been drawn in by cottontail distress sounds, regardless of which state I was in.

For me, it's pretty simple. Certain sounds work great certain times of year, while other times of year, they'll be hit or miss. The sound of a free meal is great all year long, so why not use that as your go-to call? I use higher pitched cottontail or rodent distress because it's an easier meal than larger animals, like jackrabbits, or fawns/deer. Bird distress sounds are good most of the year too, and are really good for drawing in bobcats.

I occasionally bring dogs in on coyote vocals, but they're more selective for certain times of year.


Female in heat sounds/whimpers: B1tches come in heat generally late winter, so I'll usually only use female wimpers in late january, or February through march.

Female invitation: Female howls are good through most of the year, but do very well for me in the breeding season, late jan/early feb through march.

Male territorial howls and challenge barks: Coyotes are very territorial during mating season, welping, clear up through when the pups are mobile. Male coyotes will get very bold in Jan-March, so they'll investigate intruding males like crazy.

Pup distress: Pups are generally born in April to May, so I'll use super high, low volume, short "peeps" of pup distress during that time. Then through the summer, the pups will be getting bigger, more mobile, and their voices will change. By late July-August, I'll use some small pup barks, then pup distress with more power, volume, and length.

Fawn distress: I'd keep it around mid-late spring to early summer (april-june timeframe), since that's when the whitetails are usually dropping fawns.

Turkey vocals: It seems that turkey sounds work best during mating through the first month or so of a new hatch, between March up through June.

All that seems like an awful lot to keep track of, and for what it's worth, not many of those timelines match up well with prime fur conditions. The simple solution is distress calls. Coyotes have to eat all year round. Sound like an easy meal, and they'll come.

During the fall, you'll see a lot of adolescent coyotes running around that don't have a CLUE what's going on yet. No, they're not very big yet, but younger dogs are super easy to call. A desperate, exciting distress call with a lot of action and emotion will bring these pups in at a run.

SO, ultimately, we're only a few weeks away from males getting pretty territorial for breeding season (late december now), so you can start working in some male vocals, or normal distress. Female invitation always works, but you can turn up the heat with it in about 30-45days.

Turkey calls can work any time of year if they are a normal food source for your local dogs. Play sounds to reflect a lost turkey in distress, and preferrably on the higher pitched (smaller turkeys) side. A big raspy hen isn't anything to mess with, you want to sound more like a young hen or jake that has lost it's way. Again, personally, it's not a high percentage call for me this time of year. Female invite and high pitched cottontail distress is what I'm playing right now (been mixing in a little distressed chicken since it's mid/late season and dogs have heard a lot of cottontail already this year).

Austinhuntman 12-26-2012 07:41 AM

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Thanks this is my coyote I killed weighed 55 pounds and came into doe estrous

Austinhuntman 12-26-2012 07:41 AM

Like 3 years ago

Sheridan 12-26-2012 09:48 AM

Good shooting..................... stay after them !

Congratulations !!!

Austinhuntman 12-26-2012 11:11 AM

Thank you. That 6.8 rem spc is quite the coyote slayer. It seems like more and more people are using it for coyote and bobcats and fox now

Nomercy448 12-26-2012 12:06 PM

Originally Posted by Austinhuntman (Post 4020298)
Thank you. That 6.8 rem spc is quite the coyote slayer. It seems like more and more people are using it for coyote and bobcats and fox now

Really? Why?

Nothing in my experience would make me want to use a 6.8SPC for bobcat or fox. Sure, if I had one for calling coyotes or deer (which I do), and a fox or bobcat presented itself, then I hit them with it, but frankly, it's a sad shame to ruin a $150-200 bobcat with a 6.8. I've only hit one red fox with my 6.8, blew his head off because I knew if I hit his body it was going to ruin the hide.

I suppose there are guys that hunt bobcats or fox just for pictures, but frankly, that aggravates me that guys waste that much fur value.

Austinhuntman 12-26-2012 12:58 PM

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Yeah I never did do anything with the fur. Who do you sell them to. And hornady vmax bullets didn't leave a fur destroying hole on either side of the coyote or deer look. That hole is the exit hole

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