and remember to be scentfree as possible,they can smell and see better than deer,and sneak in they wont come to any call if they see you setting up or walking in.Good luck!!

looking forward to going next weekend thanks guys for all the help

bowannao3, last year a friend of mine had the same problem. We went in and seat in tree stands and did like we where bow hunting. We sprayed fox urine and coyote urine in the wind as a cover scent and killed a total of 3 dogs in 1 hour. Good hunting.

what timne did you do that early morning late at night did you guys call at all.

We hunt mostly in the mornings and some in the afternoons before dark. We place a mojo critter about 10 yards from the stand and spray the urines once in the stand. We then turn the caller on or mouth call once every few mintues. One thing is to be ready bow in hand and if you stand when you shoot then you will need to be standing. We stay on stand about 40 mintues then move on. Yesterday my friend used this set up without a treestand and shot a nice red fox working around a frozen pound. He was going to his stand at around 2:30 pm due to the cold temps and spotted the fox working a hill side. He advised that the fox smelled the air twice and came on in. Spraying the urine in the air is called misting I was told. Good hunint.

thanks again buddy for all your help.

i hunt for fur so the the smaller centerfires are my choice...17 rem, 223 rem, 204 ruger, etc. but dont use a rimfire. Johnny Stewarts, Fox Pro, Knight and Hale, Circe are my favorite brands for calls

use mouth calls during the late evening, if you have a light you could use it but make sure you make it red. i would also suggest if you use a .22 get accurate and brain shot

i hope i can go hunting after christmas to im using my 30-30 contender (pistol) well good luck to you bowanna

Sportsmans Warehouse has a stevens (savage action)rifle in .223 and 22-250 on sale for like $299. It's a good gun to start out with and at that price you could get a nice scope for it. Here's a link to the gun.

http://www.savagearms.com/st_200short.htm