Killed CUJO this morning! Good or Bad?
12-17-2008, 09:55 AM
#41
Spike
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 61
RE: Killed CUJO this morning! Good or Bad?
ORIGINAL: BetterBirddogs
This is the biggest load of BS I have heard in a while. As a law enforcement officer you're taught to only look at whats legal. You and I both know it. You're "everyone is lying to me" cop mentality is exactly why people don't like police officers.
Bottom line is this: if you value your pet, keep it off my place. I don't care if it has new Christmas bows in its hair. If he's on my place up to no good then he's getting one in the engine room.
ORIGINAL: KSPOLICEMAN
Me being a cop we look at all sides, and it never fails the guilty person always talks to much about what they done and ends up trying to make themselves look like a hero for there wrongdoing by twisting the story in a 180 degrees after the initial story.....
Me being a cop we look at all sides, and it never fails the guilty person always talks to much about what they done and ends up trying to make themselves look like a hero for there wrongdoing by twisting the story in a 180 degrees after the initial story.....
This is the biggest load of BS I have heard in a while. As a law enforcement officer you're taught to only look at whats legal. You and I both know it. You're "everyone is lying to me" cop mentality is exactly why people don't like police officers.
Bottom line is this: if you value your pet, keep it off my place. I don't care if it has new Christmas bows in its hair. If he's on my place up to no good then he's getting one in the engine room.
12-17-2008, 04:39 PM
#42
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 179
RE: Killed CUJO this morning! Good or Bad?
ORIGINAL: bigbucks98
Well for everyone that wants to know...it looked filthy, it got tested and tested + for rabies and wes nile. The farmers son watched it kill 13 TURKEYS in his turkey barn...and i didnt shoot the damn thing cause it interupted my hunt (idk where in the hell that came from)...the reason i did it is cause the day the dog got into the turkey barns, The farmers son called me and asked if id seen it before. I tole him no. Then he described the dog as a st. bernard and lookd hust like the dog CUJO. So when i seen it thats exactly the first thing that popped into my mind. Then a bit afterwards, we took the dog over to the turkey barns and looked at its paw compared to the muddy track by the barn door and guess what??? A POSITIVE MATCH...size,shape,length,width.
Well for everyone that wants to know...it looked filthy, it got tested and tested + for rabies and wes nile. The farmers son watched it kill 13 TURKEYS in his turkey barn...and i didnt shoot the damn thing cause it interupted my hunt (idk where in the hell that came from)...the reason i did it is cause the day the dog got into the turkey barns, The farmers son called me and asked if id seen it before. I tole him no. Then he described the dog as a st. bernard and lookd hust like the dog CUJO. So when i seen it thats exactly the first thing that popped into my mind. Then a bit afterwards, we took the dog over to the turkey barns and looked at its paw compared to the muddy track by the barn door and guess what??? A POSITIVE MATCH...size,shape,length,width.
12-30-2008, 01:31 PM
#43
Fork Horn
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Iowa
Posts: 143
RE: Killed CUJO this morning! Good or Bad?
Sounds like you did the right thing. If it was a pet then the only person to blame is the owner. I've heard the excuse, "I moved to the country to let my dog run" excuse from too many pet owners, mainly due to the fact I see a dog on land I hunt once I try to track down the owner and let them know that one the dog is running and two what will happen if it continues, most don't like it but I have the law on my side. Stray or running dogs cause too many problems not to shoot them
12-30-2008, 01:38 PM
#44
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Southwest Ohio
Posts: 10,277
RE: Killed CUJO this morning! Good or Bad?
Better check your local laws and make sure they are actually on your side. If you look at some recent court cases throughout the U.S. you will find a number of people who got arrested for shooting dogs even when they were on their own land and saw the dogs as a nuisance. Not trying to start an argument here, just stating facts. I was even confusedbecause i thought it was okay to shoot a dog for chasing game, but theni checked it out and found out that some folks have gotten in big trouble even for doing that.
12-30-2008, 01:43 PM
#45
Typical Buck
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Northern Louisiana, Coloaro
Posts: 661
RE: Killed CUJO this morning! Good or Bad?
I dont shoot dogs.....Wild or pet Its still a dog and its doing what a dog do....Romping through the woods, chasing deer, Its there instincts.....I dont mind if other ppl shoot "Stray" dogs But i defintly WONT
12-30-2008, 02:21 PM
#46
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Maine
Posts: 12,564
RE: Killed CUJO this morning! Good or Bad?
Well i got there and wasnt in the stand 15 or 20 minutes and i saw 2 does and a good sized 9 point with them and made the decision that i was goin to harvest him. Well he got to about 15 yards and stopped facin me? Looked beack and then halled balls out of the woods. I didnt know what happened...and then i heard more foot prints and though here comes MR. BIG. So i got setup and turns out it was a great big st. bernard looks just like cujo
12-30-2008, 02:31 PM
#47
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Southwest Ohio
Posts: 10,277
RE: Killed CUJO this morning! Good or Bad?
That's the issue when someone shoots a dog, whether their story will hold up under scrutiny. Based on what he said, one could suspectthatthe dog was endangering livestock and i would be inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt. Whether the local police would see it the same wayis the issue since in some states, they only see it as justified if the animal is caught in the act of attacking livestock. On the other hand, if it is just someonesdog that has wandered off and is chasing deer then he would be on shaky ground since no onehas likely ever seen a St. Bernardstay withina country mile of mature deer it was chasing, so you cant really prove that it was attacking or endangering the deer. Of course all of that is gonna depend on local laws and precedents set by court cases. What one person can get away with in one county may get you 30 days in jail and a couple grand in fines in another. That is why it is always smart to make sure you know your facts before you pull the trigger.
. stray is ok and actually making the area safer, but a pet???????? Ignorant!
12-31-2008, 08:28 AM
#50
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: West Tennessee
Posts: 2,333
RE: Killed CUJO this morning! Good or Bad?
ORIGINAL: Lanse couche couche
Nice range of attitudes here. I think the original intent was for someone to discuss shooting a dog that, by all indications, was clearly a nuisance animal. It is a very far leap to go from there to the attitude that you can shoot any dog you see out running rabbits or deer. Even if you do feel justified in doing so, sometimes itcan bea great way to alienate neighbors and likely get your butt kicked. I can't stand cats running around eating small game, but you can bet your butt that I would think twice about shooting one that I know belonged to my neighbor. That would be a wonderful way for me to lose access to 120 acres of prime hunting ground. Sometimes what you think is the "right" thing to do can turn out to be pretty stupid in the long run. Think it thru before you pull the trigger on any tame animal.
Nice range of attitudes here. I think the original intent was for someone to discuss shooting a dog that, by all indications, was clearly a nuisance animal. It is a very far leap to go from there to the attitude that you can shoot any dog you see out running rabbits or deer. Even if you do feel justified in doing so, sometimes itcan bea great way to alienate neighbors and likely get your butt kicked. I can't stand cats running around eating small game, but you can bet your butt that I would think twice about shooting one that I know belonged to my neighbor. That would be a wonderful way for me to lose access to 120 acres of prime hunting ground. Sometimes what you think is the "right" thing to do can turn out to be pretty stupid in the long run. Think it thru before you pull the trigger on any tame animal.
I can't help but laugh at this thread, though. The last time I encountered stray dogs while bow hunting was Tennessee's opening day of bow season this year. I was field dressing my first deer of the year when two pups came running in, all skin and bones, swollen guts from starvation. The only way I could finish the guttingjob was to either kill them or put them in the truck. I couldn't run them off - they wouldn't leave. So,I put them in the truck and brought them home. Found a home for one with one of my fellow St. Jude employees, and the other has a nice, cushy home at my house. I don't feel comfortable with shooting stray dogs, but I understand that sometimes it's necessary. Shooting someone's pet, though? My personal opinion of anyone who would shoot a dog with a collar that is obviously someone's pet is.... well, I won't even post it on here. I'd probably get banned.