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Need help with choice for first Coyote rifle.
I've been centerfire and bowhunting for the last 30 years but am new to coyote hunting, as I saw the show on Versus with these two guysdrillin em at out to 740 yards. Impressive.
I've been askin around a bit and doing a little net research as well and I've been looking hard at the Remington Bolt Action, Model Five, 17HMR, 22 Inch Barrel. Please understand about wife/kids/mortgage/carpayments etc. in regards to price being a nessasary consideration for me. The Remington comes in at about a little over $300. Is that budget etched in stone ? No, but I can't swing $600. either. One thing that is holding me back on this is that on Sniperworld.com, this guy complained about the trigger assemblybeing crap. Also, as I live in Massachusetts soI'm not taking any long range shots like on that show. Thank you so much for any help on this. -Scottie |
RE: Need help with choice for first Coyote rifle.
First off the 17HMR isn't really a yote gun. It will kill but not as well as you will always hope. yotes are tuogh and will tote a 17 round off fast.
If budget is a consideration you can always use the centerfire rifle you already have there is no such thing as overkill, especially when the critter has teeth. If yo want a dedicated coyote rifle look for a centerfire anywhere from 17 up to quarter bore. Also, you can find a used gun at a good pricemost likely, or look at a Savage or Stevens rifle. |
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Thank you for the feedback Ruger,but as I live in the Commonwealth (read:KennedyCountry) there is no centerfire hunting here at all. Here are the regs straight out from the book.
8. HUNTING IMPLEMENTS: It is lawful to hunt fox, coyote, and bobcat with rifles, shotguns, handguns, or archery, provided that: [blockquote] (a) on wildlife management areas stocked with pheasant or quail, during the pheasant and quail season, only shotguns and archery may be used; (b) handguns are restricted to those chambered not larger than .38 caliber, and rifles to those chambered not larger than .22caliber; (c) coyote may be hunted with shotgun cartridges loaded with shot not larger than FF, provided that when coyote are hunted during the shotgun deer season, they may additionally be hunted with those shotgun cartridges that are lawful for the hunting of deer (i.e., including buckshot and slugs); (d) fox and bobcat may be hunted with shotgun cartridges loaded with shot not larger than #1 birdshot. So you see my situation ? I think I can go to .22 Hornet or magnum butno wider in diameter. (I have to check on that in more detail) What I'm really asking here is if anyone can recommend a new rifle in any of those calibers in the$3-400. range, as I'm going to need a scope, bipod, calling gear etc. as well. Thanks again for any help. -Scottie P.S. Any tips on the otherequipment or anything else, would surely be appreciated as well. [/blockquote] |
RE: Need help with choice for first Coyote rifle.
A .22 calibur covers alot of rifles ie:.220swift,.22-250,.223 ect.... So you have more choices then that.A .223 will be the cheapest to shoot and most likly to buy.Get a good scope and you are ready!!
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RE: Need help with choice for first Coyote rifle.
As I shot an M-16 for 8 years in the Army, the .223 would have been my first choice without a doubt, as I know that bullet backwards and foreward and what it can do. But if you read the regs, it's .003 over the bullet diameter limit. Ibelieve I need a rifle chambered for one of the .22 bullets and if I can find the right gun/bullet combo in my price range that would be great.
If any of you know a specific rifle model and the caliber, as well as bullet weight, I would really be grateful. Thanks again for the feedback. -Scottie |
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How about 22-250 in a NEF or a savage? Have you given any thought on a used gun?
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RE: Need help with choice for first Coyote rifle.
ORIGINAL: recurver167 How about 22-250 in a NEF or a savage? Have you given any thought on a used gun? It's just a personal thing but I may have to be flexible this time,if I want to get what I want at the price I can afford. Almost all the guns I have now, I bought before my kids were born and are all excellent choicesas my father has an FFL license which helps too. And yes, I'm going to look into the 22-250 but I think I'll take Ridge Runner's advice and contact the Commonwealth about just how much flexibility there is on that .22 caliber reg. Thanks again. -Scottie |
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Personally, I'duse a shotgun. Thats what I use on pasture panthers, foxes and other things that eat quail here in VA. Most of my shots are inside 50 yards, and at night with fairly smart quarry I'm much much deadlier with a shotgun myself.
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RE: Need help with choice for first Coyote rifle.
The .204 isn't, IMO, the best round out there, but it'll get the job done for yotes.
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RE: Need help with choice for first Coyote rifle.
If you are going to look at the 22-250 checkout the .220 swift also.
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RE: Need help with choice for first Coyote rifle.
The .220 swift is a mean gun. Good luck finding a cheap one though. I think NEF makes a .204 single shot. I own several NEF and I like them. Yes they are single shots but you will be suprised on how disciplined you will become knowing you have to make that one shot count.
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RE: Need help with choice for first Coyote rifle.
I shoot a .22-250 and love it. Not much left to rabbit sized critters, but great for coyotes.
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I agree with Chris H. the 204 is the allaround best coyote gun on the market. If you want a gun you can use for other things the 204 is not for you, but if it is a varmit gun only, thats what you want. Fox, PD, woodchucks. Just look into it, you"ll see, good luck
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I dont think best would be the right thing to say.Good or one of the choices.Best is a rifle that you can shoot well and fits you. Not being picky but best is relative to the person shooting. |
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the 221 rem fireball is a fun cal. to hunt yotes, bobcat and chucks w/. does it matter bolt or singleshot or what action would you prefer? i think thes singleshot spartan rifles are pretty neat little rigs
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RE: Need help with choice for first Coyote rifle.
204 or the 22-250 are my personal favorites although ive killed most of my yotes with a 300 wsm while deer hunting lol
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RE: Need help with choice for first Coyote rifle.
22-250, you can do alot with it. and Its common ammo. Also you can't go wrong with a 223.
If you don't reload I don't see any point in buying a 221 or 218 bee or 222 or 220 swift.. |
RE: Need help with choice for first Coyote rifle.
I agree on checking into the regulation as well. I would imagine that you would be allowed any of the .22's, but the extra knowledge is only a phone call away.
Also, maybe I didn't see it written or maybe it simply wasn't, but what kind of yardages are you going to be dealing with on your hunts? I would think you could possibly shy away from some of the 400 yard cals. if you're only dealing with much shorter distances. I'm personaly a fan of the .223 |
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.22-250, .220 Swift, .243 win are the only 3 I'd ever consider.....
.22-250 awesome and popular .220 Swift, many would say the best varmint round ever, though not as available as .22-250, but if you reload.... .243 great all around, from praire dogs to mule deer..... |
RE: Need help with choice for first Coyote rifle.
That's similar to IL.....many think there is no centerfire....but from the regs you posted....all it says is no rifle over .22 caliber....
So that cancels the .243 I'd strongly recommend the .22-250 Rem. as you can find more rifle sin this chamber and ammo is more prevalent.....a .220 swift is awesome but may be more difficult to locate and unless you reload most .220 swift ammo is loaded closely to .22-250 levels. I'm not a fan of the .204's or .17's, .223 is plenty small.....get a .22-250rem and you won't regret it. Can consider a .223, though my vote's for the .22-250 Rem. ORIGINAL: 4RCH4NG3L Thank you for the feedback Ruger,but as I live in the Commonwealth (read:KennedyCountry) there is no centerfire hunting here at all. Here are the regs straight out from the book. 8. HUNTING IMPLEMENTS: It is lawful to hunt fox, coyote, and bobcat with rifles, shotguns, handguns, or archery, provided that: [blockquote] (a) on wildlife management areas stocked with pheasant or quail, during the pheasant and quail season, only shotguns and archery may be used; (b) handguns are restricted to those chambered not larger than .38 caliber, and rifles to those chambered not larger than .22caliber; (c) coyote may be hunted with shotgun cartridges loaded with shot not larger than FF, provided that when coyote are hunted during the shotgun deer season, they may additionally be hunted with those shotgun cartridges that are lawful for the hunting of deer (i.e., including buckshot and slugs); (d) fox and bobcat may be hunted with shotgun cartridges loaded with shot not larger than #1 birdshot. So you see my situation ? I think I can go to .22 Hornet or magnum butno wider in diameter. (I have to check on that in more detail) What I'm really asking here is if anyone can recommend a new rifle in any of those calibers in the$3-400. range, as I'm going to need a scope, bipod, calling gear etc. as well. Thanks again for any help. -Scottie P.S. Any tips on the otherequipment or anything else, would surely be appreciated as well. [/blockquote] |
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