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The reason I havent been on here for awhile is cause I was in NE doing some prairie dog hunting. It just so happens that the guy we went with had just bought himself a 50 BMG. I shot atleast 75-100 p-dogs with this thing everywhere from 75-800 yards. I got told not to push it any further. I had pictures took on a digital but they didnt turn out at all. This thing was a beast with that Leupold. All there was left was red mist.And didnt kick worth a crap as long as it was on the Caldwell Led Sled Rest. I shot it 6 times in one day without it and It didnt hurt as long as you stayed within the bipod on it. But my dads friend triend to shoot it free hand and it knocked him on his a$!.lol But I get to deer hunt with it next year.

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jeez, a little excessive dont ya think? why would you shoot a deer with that? you will waste so much meat.

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800 yards was pushing it? I thought these things go through tanks at over a mile with the right kind of bullets. Damn, and some people think that using a 30.06 is overkill for coyotes. lol

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when people get ahold of this thread you are gonna get b!tched at. one big reason is a nonhunter comes across this and they will use it to their advantage.I find it unethical and a dumba$$ thing to do. A 50 bmg is made for one thing and that is to take out vehicles at long distances. do you have any idea what that is going to do to a deer?

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75-100 dogs with a .50 BMG at $2-3 per shot...Thats on the cheap side and assuming you hit every time = 1 expensive day :eek:

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A .50 BMG will just put a hole in about everything that you shoot. Just because it is a big round doesn't mean that it will vaporize whatever you shoot with it.

It is people like you that think that it will do so much damage to an animal that gives the BMG a bad rap.

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i think if it is legel go for it but i would not i wont a 50 cal but wld not hunt with it maybe bison
i know they use 50 cal sniper rifles at ove 1 1/2 mile so not sure why you should stay under 800 yards but what ever was it semi or single shot

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i was thinking the same thing. that would be getting pretty expensive.

to the post saying the 50cal was made for taking out vehicles. you couldnt be more wrong.when i went to iraqi was the spotterfor my partner who wasa sniper and this was the gunheused.he can reach out and pick people off at ranges up to almost a mile with out a problem.

and for all you non hunters. who cares what you kill it with. i would much rather you shoot me with a 50 cal and get it over quick then shoot me a a 223 and it take a bit before im dead. you dont eat them anyways. unethical? i dont see it. it would be more ethical in the since it didt even feel a thing.
jmo

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would you hunt with one

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nope that thing is to damn heavy.;) lol

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I've shot the Barrett semi-auto and it's one fun gun to shoot. Unless you've shot one you just wouldn't understand. As far as being unethical I see nothing wrong with using a weapon that provides a swift humane kill. It is much better to be overgunned than undergunned. As far as wasting meat on a deer, I don't care how large of a caliber you use a chest shot won't destroy any of the backstrap or legs and I would trade the heart, liver, shoulder and some ribsfor a quick humane kill anyday. Expensive, yes but if it's what you like who cares, you can't take it with you.

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Thats just a waste. Both p-dogs and on deer. Let me guess, did you have your .223 Accly too?

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i geuss you have changed my mind. now that i see other points of veiw.its just hearing that a animal exploding was kinda creepy.and i thought that the main purpose of a 50 bmg was to take out vehicles, secondary was for human targets.

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Hurley you are right about a 50 BMG is for aking out vehicles at long ranges. I just got out of the Marine Corps and we were told that we were NOT to shoot any person with a 50 BMG because it is against the law. You cannot shoot them with one becasue it would do too much damage to the person. We are not to shoot to kill we were to shoot to immobilize the threat. If we were found to be shooting to kill a person unless they kept shooting at us after we had shot tehm atleast 2 times we were going to be charged with murder and they did charge 3 people i know of with it.

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also glad your back from iraq safe and sound

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50 Cal.....deer.....p-dogs...... give me a break.....that is the most rediculous thing ive heard....im sorry, but if your going to do that, why not use hand gernaids... sidewinder missiles....or a tank?[8D] they wont feel those either! we have to draw the line somewhere and imo we crossed that line when we use this kind of firepower for small-med game....imo though[&:]

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So its illegal to shoot someone with the .50 BMG but not a .50 Cal Machine gun ? I'd like to see this in the Geneva Convention. :eek:

P.S. If its illegal then why is the worlds longest kill record set with a .50 BMG in Afghanistan?

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i saw a sow and the guy was showing off the 5 and t was a sniper rifle used to kill people not immuplize them if your not allowed to shoot to kil then why do all snipers kill there tagets whenthe have not been shot at

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Also the Geneva Convention prohibits hollow points but not calibers. In fact the old record for longest kill was achieved using an M2 Browning Machine Gun with optics. There's a well documented case from World War II Audie Murphy using a .50 cal machine gun against a wave of German Infantry and killing or wounding 50 of them. He was awarded the Medal of Honor and is regarded as a national hero.

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These kids are ridiculous. We need a sign that says "Must be this tall to post".

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Thats all he took was his .223 accly. Its the best gun fromdeer to tree rats!

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First off who cares what he was shooting with it(even though it sounds a little wild to be shooting that much with one) as long as its legal use it.Its no different then using a .22-250 for deer.I was in the 75th rangers and shot the .50 bmg many times.There is no law aginst shooting humans with it that I know of.We trained for along time on how to use it efficient aginst hard and soft targets.That full metal jacket bullet wont damage any more meat then a 30-06 with a soft lead bullet.Sure it will take out a light armored vehicle but it is still a great sniper round as well.Be carful with that rifle it will shoot alot farther then you can see and go through the neighbor's truck at the same time.I have had one for along time and I can tell ya it is very expensive to shoot if you have to buy the rounds.Mine is a single shot and it weights 32lbs I am sure I dont want to carry it any more had enough of the in the service.

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It is people like you that think that it will do so much damage to an animal that gives the BMG a bad rap.

This is what it does to people got to think it would do the same to a deer.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nUZaAESv6k

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I would try it!!

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This is what I would worry about. Even if you know your going to hit your target, after it blows though that what else are you going to hit? I dont care if thats what you want to hunt with, but it seems kinda silly to me. A 50bmg and the 30-06 come out of the muzzle the same, about 2800fps. But the 50bmg has 13000flbs as the 30-06 has about 3000flbs of energy. This could be a time-saver though, as I would try to get the deer to walk to the middle of a field that you covered with freezer paper. No muss, no fuss; shoot the deer and then wrap up the hamburger!

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This story smells real fishy. The only .50 bmg that I ever shot weighed 36#'s. If you could hold it up and shoot it off hand, it sure as heck wouldn't knock ys over. Between the suppressor and the weight of the gun, it didn't kick any worse than a .270. And to say to blows up prairie dogs, or deer is pure bs too. The 749 gr. bullets that we shot simply poked holes through the prairie dogs, because the bullet never hit enough mass to make it expand. The 22-250 with ballistic tips do waaaaayyyyy more damage on the little prairie dogs. And if you guys really shot it as much as you say you did, I wonder who could afford all those expensive shells.

Fishy, real fishy!!

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Up to 2 miles this thing is a beast... all the fields that we hunted were just not long enough for it. I wouldve shot the 1-2 miles in a heart beat or atleast tried to if the fields were lond enough. I shot a p-dog at 34 yards and took out the 3 others just below the surface of the hole,and took out the mound they were on.

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Just curious. What was the zero on the 50 cal, and what MOA were you using to shoot 800 yards? How much drop does a 50cal have at those distances?

Kudos to you if you actually know enough to shoot a 50cal effectively, and then shot 75-100 p-dogs with it. I don't know many 15yr olds that can do that.

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i dont know many people period even our snipers aren't that accurate all the time.

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Aim Small Miss Small:D

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Here is something i found about U.S. Army Snipers "Graduates of the U.S. Army sniper school are expected to achieve 90 percent first-round hits at 600 meters, using the M24 Sniper Weapon System (SWS)."

*edit* You thought the .50 BMG was a big round check out these South African Anti-Material Guns, one in 14.5 mm and the other in 20mm!!!!! [:-] http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sn55-e.htm

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That's exactly what I was thinking. The last AR-50 I held was in the 46# range and no way in hell could I hold it off hand, that and the fact that curent price of 50 ammo is $5 per round assuming you never missed that would mean for 100 prairie dogs you paid about $500.

Fishy is putting it mildly.

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Notice Bigbucks98 won't respond to any ones questions either.

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I wish I could afford it?

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It is in the Geneva Convention that you are not to use the 50BMG on troops. You are supposed to use it on vehicles and equipment. If i'm not mistaken the longest recorded shot was made by a sniper in SOCOM. Special Forces, Seals, and Delta don't have to follow the Geneva convention that's why they can use hollow point ammo as well. They are excluded from it. The regular infantry soldiers and Marines have to abide by the rules of the Geneva Convention.

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So does that mean that they can detain and interview captives however they want? Just curious, I thought that the Geneva Convention applied to all forms of military. Then again, I'm not in the military, so things like these don't usually come across my path everyday. lol

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This gun is in one of my history of gun books. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_97_20_mm_AT_Rifle

I weight 155lbs and it was fully automatic.

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I'd like to see where in the Geneva Convention it says this. Second it was a canadian scout sniper in a light infantry platoon. "Canadian snipers in Afghanistan after September 11th made the longest recorded kills in history with this weapon. On a March afternoon in 2002, Cpl. Furlong of the Princess Patricia’s Canadian Light Infantry (PPCLI) squinted through the scope of his McMillan TAC-50 and successfully killed an enemy combatant from 2,430 m." If ANYONE can find me a piece of evidence supporting the Geneva Convention banning the .50 please post it because i can't find anything.

P.S. I've looked through the Hague Convention and it says nothing about calibers." The Contracting Parties agree to abstain from the use of bullets which expand or flatten easily in the human body, such as bullets with a hard envelope which does not entirely cover the core, or is pierced with incisions."

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wow this got WAY off topic..lol

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I lived and hunted in NE for 24 years and never once saw a prairie dog. Ground Hogs everywhere, but no prairie dogs