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wi_hunter05281 05-04-2007 01:49 PM

22 LR and Coyotes
 
Hi,
Just wondering if a .22 LR will do the job on a coyote at reasonable range.
( 75-125 or so). If not what is a good gun to use.

Is there any time of the year when a coyote pelt is good or bad? Or can you get a good pelt year round?

How bad will a 30-30 damage the pelt?

browning.204 05-04-2007 02:23 PM

RE: 22 LR and Coyotes
 
We had this thread not to long ago. .22 lr is the best choice for an ethical kill.

I would go bigger. a 30/30 will most always mess up the furs.

fur is always better in winter..

metaldonnieg 05-04-2007 03:03 PM

RE: 22 LR and Coyotes
 

ORIGINAL: browning.204

We had this thread not to long ago. .22 lr is the best choice for an ethical kill.

I would go bigger.
Did you mean to say "isn't"? I've heard way too many times that a double lunged coyote can still run off from a 22lr

mnhunter_32 05-04-2007 05:58 PM

RE: 22 LR and Coyotes
 
22.wmr 50 gr federal kills everything within 100 yards

browning.204 05-04-2007 06:20 PM

RE: 22 LR and Coyotes
 

ORIGINAL: metaldonnieg


ORIGINAL: browning.204

We had this thread not to long ago. .22 lr is the best choice for an ethical kill.

I would go bigger.
Did you mean to say "isn't"? I've heard way too many times that a double lunged coyote can still run off from a 22lr
Good catch, .22 lr is NOT the best choice for an ethical Kill!!!

Ohio Wally 05-06-2007 02:50 PM

RE: 22 LR and Coyotes
 
Not enough power! Yes, the .22 will kill a coyote but many will run off. They will eventually die. Even the .22 Magunum is a little "undergunned".I would recommend you hit them a little harder with a .204,.223, 22-250 or a .243.

catch 05-06-2007 03:55 PM

RE: 22 LR and Coyotes
 
i agree with ohio wally. rimfires have no business around coyotes unless they are in a trap.

catchemrob 05-06-2007 05:48 PM

RE: 22 LR and Coyotes
 
for get it just hit em with a 50cal. take no chance.[:@][>:]

James B 05-06-2007 07:44 PM

RE: 22 LR and Coyotes
 
I have killed a few with the 22 LR but 50 yards is the Max that I would try. 75 for the 22 Mag. I much prefer the 223 for Yotes.

DANTHEHUNTER 05-07-2007 06:29 AM

RE: 22 LR and Coyotes
 
I have killed many coyotes with a .22mag and some with a .22lr.I dont think it requires you shoot them in half to kill them.I will give them credit they are tough but not that tough.I use to take atleast 40 a year where I worked(on a large cattle farm)it was common to see 10 aday during the winter.That may not be many to all of you but that was alot to me.I always had my trusty .220 swift but I also carried my .22wmr.At 75 to 80 yards you could kill a yote as easy with that .22wmr as a high power.No I didnt try to head shoot them either.It does require you to get close to them,but it is not that hard to make a clean kill with a .22wmr and at around 50 yards with a .22lr.We have people on here deer hunting with a .22hornet and I dont hear anyone bashing that,a.22wmr isnt that far behind a hornet in the power range.So it wont kill a yote????

Howler 05-07-2007 08:32 AM

RE: 22 LR and Coyotes
 
Danthehunter, now that you've told us how many you've killed with the 22 mag. and the 22lr, now tell us how many ran off and never recovered?
The biggest problem with the 22 lr. is that a coyote can be shot and run a long ways and leave no blood trail, and never be recovered!
I agree with the thinking that the 22lr. is best used to dispatch trappedcoyotes!

Jrbhunter 05-07-2007 10:23 AM

RE: 22 LR and Coyotes
 
If you want to coyote hunt, get a coyote rifle. If you want to use your squirrel gun- squirrel hunt.

DANTHEHUNTER 05-07-2007 12:22 PM

RE: 22 LR and Coyotes
 
I never said how many I killed with them!But it is several,never lost one.If I was calling I always used my .22wmr standing field shots over70 to80 yards I used my .220 swift.Wait that is another .22 calibur!! Maybe I should use my .300wm or even better yet how about my .50bmg.

Howler 05-07-2007 01:57 PM

RE: 22 LR and Coyotes
 
Yeah, like the .22lr is comparable to the .220 swift!
Fact is the .220 swift has a solid track record of clean kills, and the .22 lr will never match that record, unless of course, we count kills in traps!

DANTHEHUNTER 05-07-2007 08:56 PM

RE: 22 LR and Coyotes
 
You got that right!!! I love my swift and have taken my share of coyotes with it.That cartridge is the most compared to round of all time.But it still is the same calibur as a .22lr/.22wmr.I was in no way making a compariison between the two,but the post is about the.22lr and it can and has killed many yotes.I just dont think you have to blow them in two pieces to kill them.I am sitting here tring to think of any I have lost with my .22wmr and cant think of any!!!

jdhunter243 05-10-2007 07:31 AM

RE: 22 LR and Coyotes
 
me if im going to coyote hunt i use a 243. it dont do that much damage

falcon 05-10-2007 08:53 AM

RE: 22 LR and Coyotes
 
iwill not pass up a shot at a standing coyoteat 50 yards or under when i'm squirrel or rabbit hunting with a .22. Always try to double tap or triple tap them with my Ruger 10/.22. Usually they just flop over and die.

jake smith09 05-15-2007 07:12 PM

RE: 22 LR and Coyotes
 
.22lr isnt an ethical gun to use for yotes. I would go with a .220 up to a .243

dogslayer 05-15-2007 09:38 PM

RE: 22 LR and Coyotes
 
I've had quite a few prarie dogs run back into their holes after a .22lr round . In fact ,, alot of them did that . Squirrels also can take a few hits without going down . I'm still shooting right over the backs of the coyotes around here ,, but I know better than to take a rimfire to do it .

falcon 05-16-2007 01:36 PM

RE: 22 LR and Coyotes
 
"22lr isnt an ethical gun to use for yotes. I would go with a .220 up to a .243"

I'vekilled a thousand or so coyotes. It is not necessary to shoot them with a .220 Swift or 243.I have a Winchester Model 70 in .220 Swift that was made in 1940 but seldom use it. Most ofmy coyoteshave been killed with the .22 Hornet and .223 because they are cheaper to load.

Yes, i sometimes shoot them with a .22 if they are close enough. Nothing unethical with shooting any animal thatquickly dies.If your pararie dogs are running off after being shot with a .22 you ain't shooting them in the right place. No excuse for a squirrel needing more than one shot with a .22. Unless, of course, you are shooting them in the guts.

Jrbhunter 05-17-2007 10:37 AM

RE: 22 LR and Coyotes
 

ORIGINAL: Jrbhunter

If you want to coyote hunt, get a coyote rifle. If you want to use your squirrel gun- squirrel hunt.

Phil from Maine 05-29-2007 05:35 AM

RE: 22 LR and Coyotes
 

Yes, i sometimes shoot them with a .22 if they are close enough. Nothing unethical with shooting any animal thatquickly dies.If your pararie dogs are running off after being shot with a .22 you ain't shooting them in the right place. No excuse for a squirrel needing more than one shot with a .22. Unless, of course, you are shooting them in the guts.
I have to agree with this statement 100% if you can't shoot straight or shoot the coyotes or whatever in the right place then why try to shoot it in half ? I am not saying it would be the best gun to shoot one with but, why would you want to blow it into 2 pieces?

Predator26 06-05-2007 07:09 AM

RE: 22 LR and Coyotes
 
If you're confident you can make a headshot then go for it, that's the only way you'll drop a yote with a .22. In my opinion the most ideal cartridge is the .223.

Better yet if you don't want the pelt just use your deer rifle same load and everything, good target practice.

catch 06-13-2007 06:21 PM

RE: 22 LR and Coyotes
 
rimfires have no business anywhere near a coyote unless they are in a trap. no you don't have to shoot them in half, but you do need a gunthat can do the job consistently. i don't think a .22 fits that bill.

reckling42 06-13-2007 06:51 PM

RE: 22 LR and Coyotes
 
A .22 LR will do the job but most of the coyotes will run off wounded. Unless its a good vital shot.

You can get a coyote pelt all year round but the winter is by far the best since its real fluffy. The summer pelt is kinda simliar to a dogs coat.

30-30 will damage the fur. I'd go with a .20 caliber of some sort. Some good calibers are .223, .204, .243, and my favorite the .22-250.

Howler 06-14-2007 01:43 PM

RE: 22 LR and Coyotes
 
Welcome to the baord reckling and catch. It's nice to see more common sense posters around here.;)

DANTHEHUNTER 06-15-2007 03:59 PM

RE: 22 LR and Coyotes
 
Yea they are some pretty dangerous game!!! And I always want to make sure I get them recovered so they wont go to waste, alot of good meat there.That is my favorite meat to eat! Come on howler you act like it is a trophy buck that is getting away or you are going to do something with it in the summer when its not fluffy(prime).There are lots of post on here about hunters killing a deer with a .22 hornet and you all cant kill a coyote with a .22lr or a .22wmr.Give me a break.Hell I have killed 800lb cows with a .22lr and only one shot.Sure it was at close range and right in the head but that is my point.If it is a reasonable range then it will kill them as good as anything.Try practicing shooting and it will come to you.Its like I said I have called in many coyotesand shot them with my .22wmr and they never knew it was that or a .300wm.

sullivt 06-16-2007 06:53 AM

RE: 22 LR and Coyotes
 
Some areas such as NYS only allow a rimfire rifle during any open season for deer (Oct thur Dec) ... this amounts for half of my coyote season (Oct thru March). Since I sure am not staying home I carry my 22 Mag during this time... it anchors a coyote very well out to 80-100 yards. Say what you want too but some people have no choice but to carry a rimfire for part of their season.

Mr. Longbeard 06-16-2007 07:30 PM

RE: 22 LR and Coyotes
 
I was thinking the same thing... Who really cares if you dont find them... As far as I'm concerened... One less deer being killed by one;)

Hell a yote aint much bigger than a fox aint it???

Howler 06-17-2007 07:58 PM

RE: 22 LR and Coyotes
 
Hmmmmm, I could've swore that the topic at hand was the 22lr, not the 22 mag. If I had no choice in caliber, I'd choose the 22 mag., BUT come on, to admit to not careing weather or not you recover your targets is childish at best. If you really don't care if you kill'em or wound'em, than just carry your 22lr all season and shoot'em up, but don't go on the internet and brag about it. Personnally, I sell the pelts so Ichoose to shoot them with a rifle that allows me to recover them near the point of being shot. Less time trying to find a wounded one is nice too, although I see now that some guys don't care to find them at all, dead or wounded.[:'(]
I witnessed a 2000# herford bull being put down with the lowly 22lr., and it took two shots. What does that have to do with being able to cleanlyshoot AND recover coyotes that have been body shot.
As far as getting out to shoot more, counting this weekend and last weekend, I shot some where around 1000 rounds through my 17hmr, .204, 22-250, and my .243 combined. So I think I got the "practice" part down pretty well, thank you very much!;)It's just too bad that all that practice was off a bench, so I'd hate to admit it, but I'd still struggle to hit the "brain" of a coyote in a calling situation from 50 to 100 yards even 50% of the time off shooting sticks and concidering that I may call and get to shoot at about 50 coyotes in a winter, that average don't enthuse me much! A lot of you guys are just better shots than me, apparently. After all, you guys keep preaching "head" shots like anything in the head will kill a coyote when actually the brain is the only kill zone and is the size of an egg.! All I can say, you guys ARE GOOOOooooddddd![8D]

GOOSEBUSTER80 06-20-2007 06:08 PM

RE: 22 LR and Coyotes
 
i shot one last year broadside at 70 yards with a 30 round clip and there was blood but he still ran a mile and i never found him. so no i dont think that it is enough power but me new .243 sure does the job out to about 300 or sooooooo...................

falcon 06-21-2007 02:59 PM

RE: 22 LR and Coyotes
 
i will continue to shoot coyotes at close range with a .22 when given the chance. It works for me and they never get away.

gutshotem 06-25-2007 09:48 AM

RE: 22 LR and Coyotes
 
Well, you guys just helped me make up my mind........My new yote gun is gonna be a GAMO!!!!!!!!!

larsapeterson 06-30-2007 05:15 PM

RE: 22 LR and Coyotes
 
If you can't bring one down with a .22 its due to bad shot placement. .22s are all I use and out of a couple hundred I've killed I think about 5 have taken a second shot to bring down. Most are taken at 70 yards or under with cheap bulk wal-mart ammo. Just remember; think, aim, shoot. Good spot is the artery that runs down the neck; you can see the ridge if you have good eyes, lots of artery, nerves, and sometimes mashes the throat with it. (who knew taking an anatomy class would help me hunt)

Jrbhunter 07-01-2007 10:33 PM

RE: 22 LR and Coyotes
 
Anyone telling you that a 22 long rifleisa coyote gun is clueless about 22lr'sAND coyotes.

browning.204 07-02-2007 06:51 AM

RE: 22 LR and Coyotes
 

ORIGINAL: Jrbhunter

Anyone telling you that a 22 long rifleisa coyote gun is clueless about 22lr'sAND coyotes.
and probably should not be in the woods.

larsapeterson 07-02-2007 08:09 AM

RE: 22 LR and Coyotes
 
If that mean's I shouldn't be in the woods then my entire way of living is way off. And has been for years.

Of course there is the alternitive that the person who hunts coyotes with a .22 successfully may just spend more time in the woods than on internet forums and can actually shoot well rather than just shoot.

Looks like some of you guys should take out the old targets to practice and maybe crack open a biology book.

If you are unsure about your ability then I agree that you shout use something bigger to ensure a clean kill but if you can shoot well a .22lr is plenty

DANTHEHUNTER 07-03-2007 05:51 AM

RE: 22 LR and Coyotes
 
Sounds like some of you need to get more experiance hunting then you can get on here and post some reasonable quotes about coyotes and .22lr.It doesnt take a machinegun to kill them,nor a deer rifle.We all use 22-250,.220swift,&.223 to give us more range but from about 70 to 80 yards your lr will do.I highly dought that some of you have enough in the woods time to make such statements as --we shouldnt be in the woods,or dont know anything about a .22lr or coyotes.What makes you all the experts??

TNHagies 07-03-2007 11:02 AM

RE: 22 LR and Coyotes
 
I've killed several deer w/my .22 when I was younger and not one of them got away. Was it responsible to do so? No. But the point is, it doesn't take a 50cal to kill a yote. Its all about shot placement and shot selection. That being said, if I was buying a gun to hunt them w/I would buy a 220 swift or 22-250 instead of a 22but by no means is that the only thing that will kill them.

Chris_H 07-03-2007 11:32 AM

RE: 22 LR and Coyotes
 
i dont think that a .22 would kill a yote if you shot it in the vitals. that being said, if you were to shoot it in its head, it would drop. as for all of my varmint and predator hunting, (armadillos, coyotes, and foxes) i use my .223 winchester JHP rounds. VERY DEADLY. my buddy craig uses his .22-250 and it does a number on yotes as well.


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