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I found a yote den on my familys farm. its a old junk pile. I'm going to load up my 12 with slugs and push the junk into a big hole and shoot the ones running out.

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Don't forget, the females might be pregnant now!! Doesn't sound much like hunting more like just killing but whatever you gotta do.

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that aint hunting..... [:'(]

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hunt?

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I think you meant new way to Murder![:o] I dont see how making it how they have no other way out but where your at is considered hunting. Thats cheap.

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Id use buckshot and bring a couple of friends.The only good coyote is a dead one.

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call em in,,,, then shoot ,,thats huntin...

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Get off his case guys. We may not all agree with itbut everyone to his own. Its no diffrent than deer drives. Just wish him good luck and forget about it. Personally I dont think it will work, because coyotes dont stay in their dens all day and whenever you go they may be out and about. If I was you I would stick to calling em in. Good luck with it though.
PS. If your plannin on getting close enough to the den to shovel it into a hole with a truck or tractor or evenyou... forget about it. lol they will be long gone by then.

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Those of you in the northern and eastern states will change your tunes when the small game and deer disappear due to coyotes. Here in this part of OK the coyotes get over half of fawns born each year. i kill every coyote that i can, young included. Getting rid of young coyotes is the way to go.

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I guess you all hunt yotes different than we do in southeast Missouri. We get about 8-12 good friends and load up the dogs. Usually have about 6-10 good july walkers and cb's. Run the yote down and turn loose the kill dog. Usually there is an Airdale or some other breed of dog. The kill dog takes care of the yote. The cattle farmers give these guys permission to go on their land to hunt. They just want rid of them. Plus the dog race sounds real good. Not to good for the yote.

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Actually i agree with you, they are getting all kinds of animals around here..... lately especially. Since they dont really have any way to get away from people they get comfortable around us (of course) and then they start coming around our yards and get animals and people are getting attacked and everything else. I dont know about young ones though. It depends on how bad it gets. Right now its not to the point that something has to be done so I would proubably let them grow a little bit because they are easier to trick when they are really young and its not that much of a challenge.

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OK I will challenge that statement. Those of us in the North KNOW that the #1 killer of Deer and Fawns are NOT coyote. The #1 killer of Deer and Fawns is a cold spring and wind! Coyotes get blamed for alot that they don't do!

Ya see, a Deers Fur is hollow, that way it traps the exiting body heat in it to keep the Deer warm. When spring comes, the Deer shed some of their Fur. Then when a cold front comes in and it is windy, the wind pulls the body heat away from the hollow fur causing the Deer to get Hypothermia and die.

I am not saying a coyote won't or don't kill fawns, they do, BUT you said the #1 killer of Deer is coyotes. That is not true in the North!

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The number of fawn that are killed/eaten by coyotes can vary greatly from one region to the next with variation in factors such as coyote density, prey density, weather, etc.!

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correct, but he said you boys in the North and East. I happen to be in both of those!!!

We do get alot of Deer "stolen" from hunters by coyotes. A hunter downs a Deer and has to track it or leave it over night and by the time the hunter recovers it there is nothing left!

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i dont see any problem with it either only because these animals need to be thined out. we have absolutly no small game here because of them. conservation people are actually thinking about putting a bounty on them starting this fall in hopes more people will thin them out.. dont frown on this guy just because its not how you hunt. it isreally hard to find a den.i hunt yotes and coonswith dogs and alot of people would say thats not sporting either, but youjoin mefor a hunt and see how hard it is.
lay off

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I don't think my statement was giving a hard time. It was my opinion.

I agree that they need to be thinned out in some areas, I was challenging his statement about "you boys in the north and east" Not his method of hunting.

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its not much of sport, but getting rid of the yotes will help the turkey population

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Well, the original poster hasn't commented further, so maybe the post was made to stir some people up. I have no idea.

But.......the original post did say it was on a family farm. If I had a farm, I would kill the predators ANY way possible. In my mind, it wouldn't be "hunting" it would be "exterminating". I wouldn't care if the females are pregnant, or if there were young ones.

I probably wouldn't go in there with a 12 ga with slugs though. ;)

That's just me.

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I know from watching it happen that when you try to walk up on a den that they will hear you coming becuase the vibrations coming through the ground and they can tell that its something big. They come up out of their den and look to see what it is and when they bust you they are gone. I would say the best thing to do is set up a trail cam and figure out the average time they come out. Set up somewhere close way before this time and wait till they come out. It works really good and i believe its more human than makeing them come out and blast them from 5 feet when they have no other exit. But all to his own!!!!!

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county has already placed a bounty on yotes. We have lot at least 6 to 8 head of cattle this winter to them and thats just a small percent to every one else around us. Im not stirring up anything it was just a plan that might work. I've been trying to get out there since i put up the post and I just haven't had time. Once i do I'll let you know.

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Good luck Hog killer.. personally I shoot every coyote I can. I do suggest using buck shot. You'll be able to hit a lot more with more pellets

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take the plug out to hog. use 4 buck and dont miss[8D][8D][8D]. we shoot them any way we can. we had a deer yard and in one week the bloody yotes killed 13 deer. good luck and hope ya get im all. tell us how you do.

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Couldn't have said it any better!

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i dont want them all gone because i love coyote hunting...but around here in many places in upstate newyork the packs a are getting way to big for there own good...here they get in big packs and they fear less and less of anything as the packs get larger...not far from my place just a few weeks a ago a pack of 5 yotes ran up on a cross country skier and killed both his full grown labradors...andhe tried scaring them off by hitting them and such and that didnt stop them from taking out his 2 dogs...

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In MY (not yours so dont give me crap about it) opinion there is nothing good about coyotes. They eat small game, kill a lot of the deer that dont make it through the winter, and when they start gettin away with stuff they get braver as previosly mentioned by foxracer. There is absolutley nothing good about these blasted things so we kill every one of them that we can. just my opinion so dont bash it. i think that this guy is a genius really. the only thing i can suggest is posting a couple guys on each side and have the guy in the middle throw a pack of firecrackers in the hole and just shoot anything that comes out. and heck if they aint to tore up sell em for a little bit of money.

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I have to agree with alsagr's response. The latest study in Pennsylvania revealed that a mature coyote will kill 5 adult deer per year and it will take over 15 fawns to feed the new litter. Also, guys have been getting night photos with those fancy trail cameras of coyotes walking with turkey eggs in their mouth. Here in Ohio, we are seeingmore and moredoes with no fawns or just one. Our annual turkey hatch is suffering. Just something to think about...........

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their gonna be running fast you may opt for shot rather than slugs. id use some pheasant loads with #2's or BB shot. again I agree with the others this aint really hunting but if ya need to rid the property of yotes for pest reasons then this method is actually practical. then to keep the yotes off the property you might get rid of the junk pile. Besides only hill billys keep piles of trash on their property.

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Buck Shot all the way! I'll come help if you want;) We had to gas them two springs ago due to all the holes they made that tore up my grandpa's farm equipment NOT CHEAP!!!!!

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i hate when people shoot animals just for the sole idea that "they kill game animals" yotes to deer, fox to pheasants ect. its stupid. everything has its place, even evil deer killing yotes.its better that the weaker deer die off early anyways. we need these predators around too.its the same crap w/fox...."oh no they kill and eat pheasants, so i will shoot everyone i see." i hear it all the time

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you must have some big a$$ pheasants down in AZ!!!!!

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Imagine if you reached into your wallet after cashing your paycheck and you noticed that someone had taken 800 or 1200 dollars out of it.

Or imagine if someone had taken your best rifle out of your safe while you were on vacation.

Thisfeeling that you are thinking of is what it feels like to go check on your cattle and find one of them dead on the ground all ripped up, or just a bloody carcass scattered around. When you invest and borrow heavilly to keep these things healthy and thriving, even one loss makes you sick. Especially amidst these high corn prices and you think there are coyotes on your farm, then do what you have to do to get rid of them.

Is it fair chase to push their den over with a tractor and blast them with a magazine extended slug gun, NO, but it gets the JOB done. If its kindof fun too, no harm done.

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to badabout every woods that is around fields have trash piles in them. old fence, posts, stuff likethat. not just hillbillys as you call us. just cause you take the pile off the farm doesnt mean it will take care of the coyotes.

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on our farm we have at least 10 junk piles on the side of different fields.. We must be the biggest hillbilly’s around.lol

ReDoT said"oh no they kill and eat pheasants, so I will shoot everyone I see."

Are you a city slicker or do you just not know the REAL damage these coyotes are doing? Because of these animals you don’t think we need to thin(not eliminate) out. We haveZERO pheasantsZERO quail and just a few rabbitson our farm and we haveone of the biggest farms around these part. its not because they are killing a couple, they havekilled all of them; and now its to the point they are gone in these parts. Something has to be done or the rabbits are next same way with the turkeys and so on. Also understand that every calf one of these yotes killstakes almost a grand away from me
same way with our lambs and pigs. These animals you are wanting to save are doing serious harm to the environment and also on about every farmers wallet. they need to be thinned out. and if that means doing it unconventionally then that’s what has to be done. No its not hunting, I agree with that but something has to be done and it has to be done before it gets much worse!!

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Even if you kill every predator you see, you're not going to hurt the population very much, if at all. I agree with "A good coyote is a dead coyote."

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I don't think anyone has said that coyotes need to be protected... The point being made was that the coyote has a place in the ecosystem just as the deer, pheasants, quail and rabbits do. I agree thatcoyotes need to be seriously thinned out, and I don't think there is anythingwrong with killing as many as you can because it is very difficult to make an impact on their population. You've got to do what you got to do. But I also think it is pretty selfish to feel that all other predators should be exterminated, as was the mindset of the 19th centuryand still is for some people. A true conservationist can see the value of everyspecies in an ecosystembut alsounderstandsthe necessity of management. I find it ironic how uptight some people get about being ethical and respectful when it comes to animals such as deer, but have no ethics when it comes to coyotes as if they are not wild animals also. Idisagree with the statement that "the only good coyote is a dead one." It seems disrespectful to hold a personal grudge with a wild animal and try to kill it maliciously. Just my opinion, but feel free to bash ;).

As for Hog Killer's plan, it's not for me, but go for it if that's what you gotta do. Use buck shot.

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I'm with you, I'd do the same, but I would use the fur if its any good, the only good yote on a RANCH/FARM is a dead one.

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The yotes have migrated to my state in recent years.Not enough to cause any problems - Yet.

When I hunted years ago in CA. I saw 1st hand what those rascals can do to Deer and Rabbit at every opportunity.We do have an over abundance of Fox which can reak havoc on Rabbits,Turkeys etc.I've hunted a 200 acre farm for 8 years.When we 1st started hunting the Rabbit,Turkeys,Ducks were few.

In 8 yrs the Fox population has dropped dramaticly for some odd reason :eek:

We now have plenty of Rabbits and Turkeys like we never saw years ago.Bottom line is Yotes and there close cousin the Fox need to be kept in Close Check by whatever means.

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I'm not a hilly billy. I grew up on a farm and its more as a burn pile that has been burned. I'm sorry but you have no clue about how my family is. We've been in the oil field business for forty years. If you think my family are hilly billies your wrong. You must be a "cityslicker" to say something like that. We're no where near it.

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i agree with duckdog that its not really hunting, and your not giving the animal "fair chase", but if the animal is a nusiance, thats not illegal, it can be done, and if your a rancher that should be done