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gumbyhead 01-23-2007 09:48 PM

17hmr test
 
I will be trying some test with my 17 this weekend, to see how much power the bullet loses from 30y to 100y to 150y. any predictions on what will happen. I will be using cci 17grn hollow points. i will post my results after the test.

i will be shooting a coffe can with a roll of tp filled with water

Five_O 01-24-2007 09:24 AM

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That's interesting. What critter does a coffee can, wipes and water simulate?


I've tested mine on groundhogs and fox out to 200 yards and I can tell you that it does just fine..

Retaks 01-24-2007 09:29 AM

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IM tryin to go shoot my 17 this weekend also. I got it for Christmas and havent shot it yet. I have 10 boxes of ammo just havnt found time to go shoot. We dont have alot of groundhogs to shoot around here so i use a box filled with wet newspapers to see what kind of damage the bullet dose.

gumbyhead 01-24-2007 10:04 AM

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Alot of people seem to think the 17 is under powered at longer distances, so I want to find out what kind of power it does lose. It destroys smaller game, rabbits and coons. I've shot both. i think the coffe can will give a good idea on the power lose, it should be tougher than a yotes flesh

Lanse couche couche 01-24-2007 10:36 AM

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Should be lot's of promotional info that provides the technical info on "power." I know that i got attracted to the .17 after one of the companies put out advertisement showing how the .17 significantly out-performed the .22mag.
I use mine for squirrels and crows with the outside chance that i will get a shot at a coyote or fox. So, it suits me fine.

Rebel Hog 01-24-2007 10:52 AM

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The first time I ever shot the .17 Rim was in 2005 in NW NC.. My wife's cousin had bought a Savage .17 while we were there and he invited me to go shoot it with him.

We set up 10 two Liter bottles filled with water @ Approx. 100yds and the bullets disentigrated when they hit the bottles. There were manyverytiny pieces of the bullets in the bottles.

I have never owned one and don't intend to. I'll keep my .22Mags.

Lanse couche couche 01-24-2007 10:57 AM

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The .22mag is a nice round. Even some coonhunters up here like it. And I know that lot's of "saltines" have taken their share of gators, wild hogs, and deer with it in the old days. But, since i took a crow out of the top of an oak tree at about 240 yards with my .17, the .22mag has stayed in the closet.

Retaks 01-24-2007 10:57 AM

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I have a 17 and a 22 mag, they are both Marlin's. I love the 22 mag. IM waiting to go shoot the 17 to decide which one i like the best. I gotta get rid of one. Not enough room anymore. I wish i could keep them both but my stepmom likes to collect things so im out of room for stuff and there are a bunch of babies in the family now so i cant leave my guns in the corner of my room anymore.

esoxsmd 01-24-2007 02:12 PM

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Here's a great review of the .17

http://www.varmintal.com/17hmr.htm

I found this while I was deciding on a varmint rifle / caliber.
About the middle of the page down, it has the coffee can experiment.

Scott

gumbyhead 01-24-2007 03:14 PM

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thats a great website

gumbyhead 01-24-2007 03:16 PM

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I've shot 2L bottles before, and blew the to pieces, did you shoot the hollow point or the plastic tip hornadays

gumbyhead 01-24-2007 03:17 PM

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Thats a great website

Rebel Hog 01-24-2007 03:42 PM

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ORIGINAL: Lanse couche couche

And I know that lot's of "saltines" have taken their share of gators, wild hogs, and deer with it in the old days.
We didn't have them in the old days! We had .17 Remington Centerfire. No where would a .17 Rimfire compare to it![8D]


Lanse couche couche 01-24-2007 04:02 PM

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True, the centerfire is a smoking round, but a little too tough on squirrels for my taste:eek:

Allseasonhunter7 01-24-2007 04:51 PM

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hm maybe i shouldnt have shot my tnt;s like they where nothing i figured the hornadys would be good.. well i guess they are good enough

2006HighSierra 01-24-2007 04:58 PM

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I have yet to see anything reasonable that my .17 will not destroy. It is accurate to ridiculous rimfire ranges, i'm planning on taking some steel/alum. plates to shoot at for some serious penetration testing when i have the time in a week or two. When I get around to it I'll post results. I only shoot the ballistic tipped Federal/Hornady in mine. I lose about a 1/4" off my groups with the hollow points. I think its overkill for squirrels honestly though. I nailed an average sized gray squirrel at about 65-70 yards and the entry was about quarter sized, exit was from its armpit to its hind legs with all the entrails hanging out. Luckily it didnt hurt much meat though.

Hiawatha 01-24-2007 05:13 PM

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Here's a little test i did of my own. V-shock ballistic tip on a beaver at 30 yards. Needle hole in the pelt and explosion on the skull. I love. Best beaver gun I have ever picked up.



Howler 01-24-2007 05:43 PM

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i love my 17 hmr. It is a blast to use on the prairie dogs early in the summer!

gumbyhead 01-24-2007 08:25 PM

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thats a great pic, I have had the same thing with rabbits and a coon

Rebel Hog 01-24-2007 08:33 PM

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ORIGINAL: Lanse couche couche

And I know that Lot's of "saltines" have taken their share of gators, wild hogs, and deer with it in the old days.
Lanse, this iswhat I was trying to pointout to you about the .17 Rem.. There was no such thing as .17 Rim.

As for squirrels, hell I can take as many as I want with my 35yr old Springfield.22LR...

Lanse couche couche 01-25-2007 06:00 AM

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Reb,

I was actually referring to the .22mag there in a joking manner. In the "old days" it gave folks that extra punch beyond the regular .22, but it was also quiet if you know what I mean.

And yes, the good old .22 long rifle would be great for squirrels. But, the way i hunt is sort of a smorgasboard. I might be doing a 30 yard shot on a squirrel one minute, then dealing with a crow at 200 plus yards the next. And there's always a chance that a coyote or fox may comesomewhere in between. So, I really like the .17 rim for my particular circumstances.For folks that want to stick with the .22mag or go with something bigger, more power to 'em. But god i love my little .17

Rebel Hog 01-25-2007 08:09 AM

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Lance, I really haven't hunting with the .17 Rim, so I really shouldn't knock it. All I have done is shoot water bottles!:)

I might give it a try! Who knows, I might like it!:)

Lanse couche couche 01-25-2007 08:13 AM

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Well, if you ever decided to shop around for one, just drop me a PM and I'll be happy to fill you in on the rig that I've got, prices, etc.

gumbyhead 01-27-2007 10:04 AM

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going to do the test now, here is the setup



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