Slowest FPS but still able to kill
 

What is the slowest FPS, but will still be able to kill a bird?

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slowest f.p.s. with what projectile and what kind of "bird". A grouse is easier to down than a goose.

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Something in my backyard.

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A well placed rock thrown with your hand will kill a small bird. An air pistol in the .177 cal. will kill a bird, which would be around 500-600 f.p.s.. Some bows shoot around 180 f.p.s. and are very leathel! A well placed shot from a wrist rocket loaded with ball bearings can't be going much faster than 150 f.p.s., and will kill a small bird!!

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I guess what Howler is describing is Energy, not velocity. Energy = (mv^2)/2. One half mass times the velocity squared.

The rock is the big mass, with slow velocity.
The pellet is the small mass with the big velocity.

The real secret in arms development is the square of the velocity. Barrel damage and shot drop is a function of the velocity, but energy is the function of the velocity squared, which increases much faster than the velocity. Hence the popularity of the 223 and the .17 rounds.

You could that bird with a feather, if you could get it going fast enough.

PS: I like Colibiri 22s, but just because I don't own an air rifle accurate enough.

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So 500 fps could kill a robin? They are the dumbest bird. Period.

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get ya a couple of good cats or a good bird dog. . . a terrier dog will work great on robins. . . it might not kill it, but it'll have tons of fun chasing the birds outta the yard!!!

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I'm allergic to cats. And I already have 2 labs. Also will a 1000 fps pellet gun kill a squirrel?

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Bump.

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Yes, BUT you need to be close, (with-in 50')and shoot for the base of the ear.
I've shot a bunch of rabbits with my air pistol, which is rated at about 550'/sec. BUT all of them were shots of less than 50', head shots only!
I say head shots because any thing other than that, the critters will get to a hole before they die!

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Hey check out this site. Depending on airgun you can kill alot of things.
http://home.comcast.net/~pelletgunn/air.htm

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Thanks for that link.

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Would 1,000 FPS kill a squirrel?

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that will kill arabbit, squirrel, groundhog, gopher, robin, chipmunk, and turkey among others.so yes, it will in fact kill a squirrel. assuming you make good shots to the upper torso/head area. i doubt that would kill a squirrel if shot in the rear.there are those freak instances where something doesn't go right. i've shot a chipmunk from 5 yards away in the side of the head with a .22 and had it RUN away only to be shot in the heart and continue to limp away. after that i shot it in the back and it eventually died. just goes to show that not everything goes according to plan.

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Hm. That's odd.

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It's illegal to kill songbirds in most states , check your game laws before doing anything .

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A couple of points to keep in mind. Be wary and mindfull of your neighbors, last year one called the cops on me when I was in the back killing pigeons who were crapping all over my tomatoes. The boys in blue showed up with their pistols drawn because they were told that some nut was outside shooting a gun randomly. I almost spent a few nights in jail but I convinced them it was only a pellet gun and I was only doing pest control.
Some birds are easier to kill than others. Robins are pathetic, they can be killed flat by spitting on them. Pigeons are tough little birds, you need a head or spine shot to drop one. A pellet in the belly will eventually kill them but it takes a while. Squirrels are suprisingly tough. I find them harder to kill than possums. Skin one and you'll see why, nothing but bone and mussle. I prefer to use .22LR's or #4's in a .410 shotgun.
If you do use a .22LR and worry about your neighbors getting upset about the noise then go with the subsonic rounds. They're dirty little rounds but in a rifle length barrel make very litlte noise.

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man.....this kid just wants to whack anything in his backyard with his pellet gun it sounds like...........

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Yes with 1000 fps you would drop a squirrel right there right then... all you need is a 200 fps (by the way fps means feet per second) but you also need a good shot because you dont want a injured animal in the wild... i know 200 fps will kill a squirrel because i killed one with a lung shot (squirrel is the best meat ever):fighting0007:

This has to be the dumbest question of all times.

And from 2005 too... another dead thread revived....
-Jake

I hope you realize shooting song birds is illegal. Posting it here that you are about to shoot some isn't very smart.

Just practice on paper targets. No need to shoot robins. It can land you with a huge fine and possibly make it impossible to get a hunting license in the future.

Think about it!

In fact it can be a federal violation, robbins being federally protected. There are some people who just get off in killing. Those people should be removed from the ranks of hunters!

Depends.

If you're talking about a .177 pellet, yes, but I agree with the above posted range of 50 ft. or less.

But if that's a .22 cal pellet, then I'd set the range at 30 yds. or 90 ft.

I've shot them at up to 30 yds with a .22 pellet, head shots but it kills them right then & there.

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Shot placement and gear knowledge.
 

I shoot traditional archery over compounds and crossbows and it is much slower. Compounds shoot on average around 320fps, crossbows probably around 340 and some reach up to 450. The way I counter this is I shoot a heavier grain arrow and know and understand my gear. Since I'm not shooting fast i have to have the power on my side.

When I was a kid I killed smaller game (squirrels and doves) with a red rider bb gun. Just got to know where to shoot it.