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05-30-2013, 07:33 PM
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Posted By Brad C.

That's a good haul Adrian. I have killed a...

That's a good haul Adrian. I have killed a coyote and a red fox behind my house here. I seen a gray a few weeks ago. Greys are hard to come by around these parts. I killed one rabbit hunting...
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05-30-2013, 07:16 PM
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Posted By Brad C.

So who are you calling a black eye? That's...

So who are you calling a black eye?

That's not a very good racial slur to throw out as a mod here. Extremely untasteful and I think you truly need to apologize to those you referred to as such.
05-30-2013, 07:00 PM
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Posted By Brad C.

It's a date! XXXXOOOO

It's a date!

XXXXOOOO
05-30-2013, 06:13 PM
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Posted By Brad C.

Adrain, Nobody I know is thumping chest with...

Adrain,

Nobody I know is thumping chest with anyone. I don't agree with every single thing that Hal or Clark says. And yes I agree they talk to sell what they use or have to sell. Most guys...
05-30-2013, 05:48 PM
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Posted By Brad C.

And I too am done here. I said the truth as I...

And I too am done here. I said the truth as I know it to be and is. Anyone who takes a 20GA and is shooting Hevi-13 1 and 1/4oz 6's and shoots a turkey at 60yds and calls it a turkey killing son of...
05-30-2013, 05:34 PM
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Posted By Brad C.

Adrian, Hal and Clark have forgot more about...

Adrian,

Hal and Clark have forgot more about shotgun patterning than what most know. And that includes you and I.
05-30-2013, 03:48 PM
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Posted By Brad C.

Well if you talk to Hal(hawglips) who has done...

Well if you talk to Hal(hawglips) who has done probably more patterning than anyone I know on the internet with maybe the exception of Clark(allaboutshooting), he will say the exact same thing I said...
05-30-2013, 01:38 PM
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Posted By Brad C.

The odds of getting 4 shot let alone 1 or 2 shot...

The odds of getting 4 shot let alone 1 or 2 shot to hit that small vertebrae at a true 60yds is slim and none with a 20GA and that load. And again I don't follow the logic of you even posting the 50...
05-30-2013, 06:28 AM
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Views: 3,479
Posted By Brad C.

That's why there are very few true 50yd 20GA...

That's why there are very few true 50yd 20GA killers with Hevi-13 #6 loads.

It's gonna take TSS handloads to make a 20GA a 60yd killer.
05-30-2013, 05:46 AM
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Posted By Brad C.

Well if memory serves me right going off of what...

Well if memory serves me right going off of what I seen of your patterns before that were right around a 150 avg at 40yds with that same gun, choke and load, I can't for the life of me going off of...
05-29-2013, 07:11 PM
Replies: 64
Views: 5,740
Posted By Brad C.

Well again I can find out for sure if you want to...

Well again I can find out for sure if you want to know the exact date it was implemented.

But it's been in existance before 2000.
05-29-2013, 03:06 PM
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Views: 5,740
Posted By Brad C.

Well I respect you getting the thread put back...

Well I respect you getting the thread put back up.

I also repsect the reply here and the ban removal.

I know being a mod is'nt an easy job. I used to be an admin(2nd in command) at another...
05-27-2013, 07:09 PM
Replies: 64
Views: 5,740
Posted By Brad C.

I too have said all I am going to say on this...

I too have said all I am going to say on this matter. I hope this thread will remain for there is a lot of great information on it for others to learn from and use it for their future patterning...
05-27-2013, 06:06 PM
Replies: 64
Views: 5,740
Posted By Brad C.

Follow it or not, but it will hold water. ...

Follow it or not, but it will hold water.

http://www.nwtf.org/tips_adventures/tips.php?id=13279
05-27-2013, 05:40 PM
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Views: 5,740
Posted By Brad C.

JW, The 100 in the 10" has been around along...

JW,

The 100 in the 10" has been around along time now and it's the standard rule that the NWTF goes by to know exactly what your lethal range is from any gun, choke and load. Go look it up. This...
05-27-2013, 12:33 PM
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Views: 5,740
Posted By Brad C.

I agree. Again what I stated about 80 to...

I agree.

Again what I stated about 80 to 100 pellets will be the avg pellet count you will lose regardless of the gun from 40yds to 50yds and the same goes from 50yds to 60yds will in fact hold...
05-26-2013, 08:03 PM
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Views: 5,740
Posted By Brad C.

Adrian, I'm with you on the 20GA being a...

Adrian,

I'm with you on the 20GA being a great light gun to shoot with a lot more pleasant recoil vs the 3" or 3.5" 12GA loads. And again I don't mean to put you on the spot, but you never...
05-26-2013, 04:37 PM
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Posted By Brad C.

Adrian, Those are some nice patterns for a...

Adrian,

Those are some nice patterns for a 20GA. But I will also say none of those patterns you posted and that includes the ones you showed with the 7's are 60yd turkey killers. Granted you can...
05-26-2013, 02:31 PM
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Views: 5,740
Posted By Brad C.

Thank you. And I don't think your right, I know...

Thank you. And I don't think your right, I know your right. I believe more and more folks are starting to either ask questions about patterning a new turkey gun, or any gun that they might use to...
05-26-2013, 12:36 PM
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Posted By Brad C.

You bet. It's all about the numbers. They don't...

You bet. It's all about the numbers. They don't lie, and if a person follows the 100 in the 10" you will know your true max range for any gun, choke, and load regardless of the size of the shell or...
05-20-2013, 04:59 PM
Replies: 186
Views: 17,643
Posted By Brad C.

No doubt about them hitting harder and...

No doubt about them hitting harder and penetrating deeper. But as for patterning better that just depends on the gun and choke and the loads used. No guarantees in patterning.
05-20-2013, 03:48 PM
Replies: 186
Views: 17,643
Posted By Brad C.

Yes, but remember too, and I have nothing against...

Yes, but remember too, and I have nothing against Hal at all, but it's easy to promote what you sell. Just something to think about. But I know he believes in the TSS stuff, and the patterns I have...
05-20-2013, 01:54 PM
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Posted By Brad C.

Here's another one from Hal I do agree with. ...

Here's another one from Hal I do agree with.

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There is no such thing as a 70 yd turkey gun with hevishot or hevi-13 -- I...
05-20-2013, 01:50 PM
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Posted By Brad C.

I just found what Hal said about the Hevi-13...

I just found what Hal said about the Hevi-13 #7's. I was off a 1/4" on the gelatin. It's 1.25" and 1yd off on the distance. Here's what Hal said.
...
05-20-2013, 01:40 PM
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Posted By Brad C.

I wanted to tell you guys that I just found out...

I wanted to tell you guys that I just found out from a guy that got ahold of Federal about the heavyweight turkey loads being discontinued, and the Fed rep told him they have no plans to discontinue...
05-20-2013, 01:35 PM
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Posted By Brad C.

I know Hal likes to go by the shot being able to...

I know Hal likes to go by the shot being able to penetrate at least 1.5" in a gelatin mass for max killing range, but I don't agree with that. And I have told him that myself. Going by that max...
05-20-2013, 11:41 AM
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Views: 17,643
Posted By Brad C.

And for guys reading this I don't think they...

And for guys reading this I don't think they recommend shooting this TSS in the older barrel shotguns. So I would make dang sure to talk to Hal about any of the dangers or questions you may have...
05-20-2013, 11:38 AM
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Posted By Brad C.

Well the TSS used to be thought that a little...

Well the TSS used to be thought that a little more open chokes gave the best pattern, and while they do seem to give a great 20" spread, but now that more and more guys are reloading TSS, more are...
05-19-2013, 08:05 PM
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Posted By Brad C.

Here's a link to some TSS 20GA patterns just to...

Here's a link to some TSS 20GA patterns just to show you that you don't need a 12GA to shoot this stuff.
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05-19-2013, 07:57 PM
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Views: 17,643
Posted By Brad C.

I have heard from Hal that TSS #9's will shoot...

I have heard from Hal that TSS #9's will shoot through the breast of a bird at 40 yds I believe was what he said. Now I don't know if that is shooting into the bird facing you are at a side view. ...
05-19-2013, 07:52 PM
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Posted By Brad C.

This will be the last one from a 12GA at 60yds. ...

This will be the last one from a 12GA at 60yds. But I have seen 20GA loads of this stuff about the same with TSS #9's.

http://www.30-30.com/TSS60a.jpg

And again these are for illustration...
05-19-2013, 07:42 PM
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Posted By Brad C.

I have 10" glass cutouts when I do my 10"...

I have 10" glass cutouts when I do my 10" circles. I had a glass company make 2 for me. Cost me $20.
05-19-2013, 07:41 PM
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Posted By Brad C.

Now keep in mind I know Hal's pattern to be...

Now keep in mind I know Hal's pattern to be legit. But I can't say on the others how accurate that 10" circle is. Now I'm not accusing anyone of stretching it out some, but it is the internet.
05-19-2013, 07:36 PM
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Posted By Brad C.

Here's another good one with a 20GA. ...

Here's another good one with a 20GA.

http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/5157/20120304190600.jpg
05-19-2013, 07:14 PM
Replies: 186
Views: 17,643
Posted By Brad C.

That will toast one at 60yds if that's what your...

That will toast one at 60yds if that's what your wanting.
05-19-2013, 07:14 PM
Replies: 186
Views: 17,643
Posted By Brad C.

I can't find the 60yd pattern, but this was a...

I can't find the 60yd pattern, but this was a 20GA pattern at 40yds from Hal.

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff168/hawglips/patterns/IMG_0241.jpg
05-19-2013, 07:04 PM
Replies: 186
Views: 17,643
Posted By Brad C.

Let me show you just how bad this TSS is in a...

Let me show you just how bad this TSS is in a 20GA. Give me a sec. I think I can even show you one at 60yds. Now I'm not telling you to think you got a rifle with this stuff. But it will easily...
05-19-2013, 07:02 PM
Replies: 186
Views: 17,643
Posted By Brad C.

And if your gonna reload TSS, the 9's will be all...

And if your gonna reload TSS, the 9's will be all you will ever need.
05-19-2013, 07:00 PM
Replies: 186
Views: 17,643
Posted By Brad C.

Here's more on the link I provided above. ...

Here's more on the link I provided above.

http://www.saami.org/specifications_and_information/publications/download/209.pdf
05-19-2013, 06:47 PM
Replies: 186
Views: 17,643
Posted By Brad C.

Well remember it's against the law for an...

Well remember it's against the law for an individual to reload ammo without some kind of a special permit or license from I'm guessing the ATF. And to do so you better have some good insurance.
...
05-19-2013, 05:56 PM
Replies: 186
Views: 17,643
Posted By Brad C.

Here's what bawana said at Old Gobbler on the 870...

Here's what bawana said at Old Gobbler on the 870 vs 835 thread about these shells.

Have both....been using the 870 supermag with Federal HW #7 in 3 1/2 inch shells for the last five...
05-19-2013, 05:52 PM
Replies: 186
Views: 17,643
Posted By Brad C.

Well you might want to look into that last...

Well you might want to look into that last pattern I showed you, or a Trulock choke to shoot the Fed Hvweight 7's from George Trulock. That's if your interested in going with that load. But I make...
05-19-2013, 05:38 PM
Replies: 186
Views: 17,643
Posted By Brad C.

Here's one my buddy Samuel shot out of his 870 SM...

Here's one my buddy Samuel shot out of his 870 SM at 40yds using a Briley Hevi-Shot .675 choke and Fed 3.5" Heavyweight #7's 1 and 7/8oz load.
...
05-19-2013, 05:23 PM
Replies: 186
Views: 17,643
Posted By Brad C.

Tell me what shotgun you shoot turkeys with.

Tell me what shotgun you shoot turkeys with.
05-19-2013, 05:20 PM
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Views: 17,643
Posted By Brad C.

Well remember this as well when talking about TSS...

Well remember this as well when talking about TSS shot. It from the get-go has an advantage over other shot due to it's super hard and dense. So the smaller size TSS pellets have a smaller surface...
05-19-2013, 04:33 PM
Replies: 186
Views: 17,643
Posted By Brad C.

Here was the TSS what Hal called T98(that I think...

Here was the TSS what Hal called T98(that I think means 9 and 8 mixed) that I believe Hal shot at 50yds just to prove his point. Now remember not one of the lead #4 Win 1 and 7/8oz 3" load...
05-19-2013, 04:26 PM
Replies: 186
Views: 17,643
Posted By Brad C.

That's true. A #4 turkey load will carry its...

That's true. A #4 turkey load will carry its velocity better over the course of its flight vs a #6 load that was shot the exact same speed.

But remember that hard shot and denser shot won't be...
05-19-2013, 04:15 PM
Replies: 186
Views: 17,643
Posted By Brad C.

The slower heavier turkey loads will be less...

The slower heavier turkey loads will be less erratic and more consistent more times than not vs the faster turkey loads.
05-19-2013, 04:10 PM
Replies: 186
Views: 17,643
Posted By Brad C.

I'll tell you also that the slower load will...

I'll tell you also that the slower load will typically pattern better than the faster load.
05-19-2013, 04:09 PM
Replies: 186
Views: 17,643
Posted By Brad C.

Well I will tell you this much that I have...

Well I will tell you this much that I have learned from reloading shells myself that not to get caught up in the fps game. 1200fps vs 1100fps don't mean much once the pattern gets out there at say...
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