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Forum: Northeast
09-19-2011, 02:40 PM
Replies: 28
Views: 3,956
Posted By bluebird2

But didn't the experts say that EHD isn't...

But didn't the experts say that EHD isn't transmitted from deer to deer and that it was only transmitted by the midges? If that were true there should have been significant impacts in other areas of...
Forum: Northeast
09-16-2011, 02:59 PM
Replies: 28
Views: 3,956
Posted By bluebird2

Here is the link to the article on EHD in PA. ...

Here is the link to the article on EHD in PA.

http://www.mcall.com/sports/outdoors/mc-....0,6463707.story .

Since the experts claim EHD is only transmitted by midges,it is surprising that the...
Forum: Northeast
09-13-2011, 01:46 PM
Replies: 28
Views: 3,956
Posted By bluebird2

I had no intention of casting doubt on the...

I had no intention of casting doubt on the effects of EHD in NJ. I even suggested that he report his observation to the DEP since there was no reference to the current outbreak of EHD on the NJ...
Forum: Northeast
09-04-2011, 01:41 PM
Replies: 28
Views: 3,956
Posted By bluebird2

Personally, I think the 117,000 doe tags( 125...

Personally, I think the 117,000 doe tags( 125 tags/forested SM.) allocated for 5C are a much greater threat to the future of our herd than EHD will ever be. Remember the PGC goal for 5C was only 6...
Forum: Northeast
08-29-2011, 01:48 PM
Replies: 27
Views: 4,553
Posted By bluebird2

You and thousands of other PA hunters believe...

You and thousands of other PA hunters believe stalking turkeys in the fall is legal,but the code specifically states that calling is the only legal method for hunting turkeys in both the spring and...
Forum: Northeast
08-28-2011, 12:25 PM
Replies: 27
Views: 4,553
Posted By bluebird2

If hunters will always shoot other hunters,would...

If hunters will always shoot other hunters,would you agree that limiting hunting to calling in both spring and fall is a meaningless,basically unenforceable law ?
Based on the articles I have read...
Forum: Northeast
08-24-2011, 12:29 PM
Replies: 27
Views: 4,553
Posted By bluebird2

Without a doubt the current courses emphasize not...

Without a doubt the current courses emphasize not stalking turkeys in both the spring and fall. But, the vast majority of PA hunters either didn't take a hunter safety course or took it before 2000...
Forum: Northeast
08-21-2011, 02:12 PM
Replies: 28
Views: 3,956
Posted By bluebird2

I live and hunt just across the river in PA and...

I live and hunt just across the river in PA and as yet I haven't seen any evidence of EHD in our area and I haven't heard of any reports of EHD from the guys I know that hunt NJ. I checked the NJ DEP...
Forum: Northeast
08-17-2011, 11:49 AM
Replies: 27
Views: 4,553
Posted By bluebird2

If you know the answer ,why don't you post it?...

If you know the answer ,why don't you post it? Until recently stalking turkeys in the fall was legal, but the PGC changed the regs while failing to include the change in the Digest. If there is a...
Forum: Northeast
08-14-2011, 04:21 PM
Replies: 27
Views: 4,553
Posted By bluebird2

If it is acceptable to stalk deer...

If it is acceptable to stalk deer ,bear,elk,groundhogs and pheasants why wouldn't it be just as acceptable to stalk a turkey?
Forum: Northeast
08-14-2011, 01:32 PM
Replies: 27
Views: 4,553
Posted By bluebird2

The way the law is written there is no grey area....

The way the law is written there is no grey area. It clearly states that the only legal method for hunting turkeys in both the spring and fall is by calling.

However, I will agree that it is...
Forum: Northeast
08-07-2011, 03:52 AM
Replies: 27
Views: 4,553
Posted By bluebird2

The law applies statewide but I doubt it is...

The law applies statewide but I doubt it is enforced anywhere since the PGC doesn't even bother to put it in the Digest and they made no effort to advertise the change. There was even a PGN article...
Forum: Northeast
08-02-2011, 08:47 AM
Replies: 27
Views: 4,553
Posted By bluebird2

While I agree that failing to properly identify...

While I agree that failing to properly identify the target is the major reason for most hunting accidental shootings, I was simply pointing out that calling may attract other hunters to the location...
Forum: Northeast
08-02-2011, 03:46 AM
Replies: 27
Views: 4,553
Posted By bluebird2

While I agree that the intent of the law is the...

While I agree that the intent of the law is the safety factor,isn't calling a major factor in most accidental shooting during turkey season?
Forum: Northeast
08-01-2011, 12:16 PM
Replies: 27
Views: 4,553
Posted By bluebird2

A WCO said on another site that it was in fact...

A WCO said on another site that it was in fact illegal to ambush turkeys and it is also illegal to hunt them by tracking them if there is snow cover.

BTW, I am not reading too much into the law....
Forum: Northeast
08-01-2011, 10:40 AM
Replies: 27
Views: 4,553
Posted By bluebird2

Here is the section of the code you are looking...

Here is the section of the code you are looking for . It is part of Title 58 of the code.
Forum: Northeast
07-31-2011, 02:07 PM
Replies: 27
Views: 4,553
Posted By bluebird2

No one told me about this regulation and that is...

No one told me about this regulation and that is why I posted it . You and the vast majority of PA turkey hunters have no idea that this law is on the books , but it is and it is not even mentioned...
Forum: Northeast
07-20-2011, 01:37 PM
Replies: 27
Views: 4,553
Posted By bluebird2

PA Turkey Hunting Surprised

I haven't hunted fall turkey in PA for several years so I was surprised to learn that it is not legal to hunt fall turkeys by any other method than by calling with a mouth or hand call. So even...
Forum: Northeast
06-10-2011, 12:37 PM
Replies: 0
Views: 876
Posted By bluebird2

The PA Deer Management Plan That Self-destructed

In 2000 the DMP was simply to reduce the herd by 5%/yr. until we reached the deer density goals in DPFSM that were established in 1980.Then in 2002 the PGC added ARs to improve the buck age structure...
Forum: Northeast
05-12-2011, 12:46 PM
Replies: 3
Views: 1,015
Posted By bluebird2

While Feaser is right in saying there was no...

While Feaser is right in saying there was no secret cabal he is flat out wrong about DCNR influence on the DMP. The SCS Audit specifically directed DCNR to exert whatever political was necessary in...
Forum: Northeast
04-21-2011, 01:56 PM
Replies: 35
Views: 5,293
Posted By bluebird2

Where is the PGC getting the cats you claim they...

Where is the PGC getting the cats you claim they are stocking? What western state is trapping cougars and selling them to other states that need to reduce their deer herd?
Forum: Northeast
04-10-2011, 04:43 AM
Replies: 39
Views: 3,152
Posted By bluebird2

I find it amazing that Kip actually believes the...

I find it amazing that Kip actually believes the survival rates for deer in 2G. Eveland used the survival rates from these flawed studies to try and prove that the PGC harvest data was flawed and...
Forum: Northeast
04-07-2011, 12:39 PM
Replies: 7
Views: 1,136
Posted By bluebird2

Unfortunately, Eveland's analysis of hunting and...

Unfortunately, Eveland's analysis of hunting and non-hunting mortality rates is flawed. Instead of using the PGC recruitment rate Eveland used a rate of 35% based on a report from Ala. . He also uses...
Forum: Northeast
04-03-2011, 02:55 PM
Replies: 39
Views: 3,152
Posted By bluebird2

The USP had the facts, but since those facts were...

The USP had the facts, but since those facts were not presented by an expert the judge dismissed those facts in favor of the PGC. The simple fact is there is no deer management expert who wants to...
Forum: Northeast
03-23-2011, 01:55 PM
Replies: 9
Views: 1,170
Posted By bluebird2

Antler Restrictions, the New Fad

Here is a link to an interesting article on antler restrictions.

http://buffalo.uwex.edu/files/2011/01/Antler-Restrictions-The-new-fad.pdf

It does a good job of explaining the difference...
Forum: Northeast
03-18-2011, 04:32 PM
Replies: 39
Views: 3,152
Posted By bluebird2

Here is what the PGC has done to the herd in 2G. ...

Here is what the PGC has done to the herd in 2G.


Year…….Allocation…………ant’less harvest………..buck harvest…….license/harvest
85………..10.23………………….3.27………………….2.98……………..3.12 ...
Forum: Northeast
03-18-2011, 12:28 PM
Replies: 39
Views: 3,152
Posted By bluebird2

But hunters can't pull the trigger unless the PGC...

But hunters can't pull the trigger unless the PGC provides the tags. The PGC is charged with the responsibility to manage the herd, not the individual hunters , but the PGC uses those hunters as a...
Forum: Northeast
03-08-2011, 01:53 PM
Replies: 39
Views: 3,152
Posted By bluebird2

But the bunny huggers are controlling the land...

But the bunny huggers are controlling the land because they are controlling how the PGC is managing our herd. The MSY CC of over browsed NE hardwoods is over 40 DPSM but the herd in 2G is being...
Forum: Northeast
02-28-2011, 12:57 PM
Replies: 87
Views: 6,121
Posted By bluebird2

Most doe tags aren't filled every year, in every...

Most doe tags aren't filled every year, in every WMU in the state. It usually takes 3 or 4 doe tags for every antlerless deer harvested. The USP claimed the herd had been annihilated the and that the...
Forum: Northeast
02-27-2011, 03:30 PM
Replies: 87
Views: 6,121
Posted By bluebird2

WCO R.W.J is right. there is no reason to ban doe...

WCO R.W.J is right. there is no reason to ban doe hunting in 2G for 2 years. In 2009 hunters harvested 1.26 buck for every 1.02 antlerless ,which means the herd is already being allowed to increase...
Forum: Northeast
02-24-2011, 12:27 PM
Replies: 87
Views: 6,121
Posted By bluebird2

The following quote proves beyond a doubt that...

The following quote proves beyond a doubt that the DCNR blackmailed the PGC into reducing the herd so DCNR could get their forests certified.



"
BOF RESPONSE: “The Department of Conservation...
Forum: Northeast
02-18-2011, 03:09 PM
Replies: 87
Views: 6,121
Posted By bluebird2

How do you know that 50% of the antlerless...

How do you know that 50% of the antlerless harvests were fawns,since the PGC hasn't released the harvest data for 2010?
Forum: Northeast
02-07-2011, 03:18 PM
Replies: 3
Views: 873
Posted By bluebird2

Without a doubt the goal of the DMP was to reduce...

Without a doubt the goal of the DMP was to reduce the herd. But the PGC is claiming that herd reduction stopped in all but 3 WMUs in 2004. However, the data provided shows the herd was decreasing in...
Forum: Northeast
02-07-2011, 04:22 AM
Replies: 3
Views: 873
Posted By bluebird2

PA Population Estimates

The PGC has released their population estimates for each WMU as directed in the Audit. Here is the link to the report. Go to the section on research and click on ,"Monitoring Deer Populations in PA" ...
Forum: Northeast
01-22-2011, 01:01 PM
Replies: 6
Views: 1,249
Posted By bluebird2

I read a PGN article from the 80s , when the doe...

I read a PGN article from the 80s , when the doe season was 2 or 3 days after buck season and they said that 2-3% of the antlerless harvest were adult bucks that had lost their racks. With ARs...
Forum: Northeast
01-19-2011, 08:10 AM
Replies: 87
Views: 6,121
Posted By bluebird2

Are you a professional or just an internet mind...

Are you a professional or just an internet mind reader? I'll admit I am not happy with the DMP , but there is a lot more to life than just deer hunting.




If they don't know it ,why don't...
Forum: Northeast
01-19-2011, 05:33 AM
Replies: 87
Views: 6,121
Posted By bluebird2

Whether you realize it or not, harvesting BB is...

Whether you realize it or not, harvesting BB is an important part of any statewide DMP. Furthermore, passing on all 1.5 buck would only reduce the sustainable harvest and make hunting even worse.

...
Forum: Northeast
01-18-2011, 02:28 PM
Replies: 87
Views: 6,121
Posted By bluebird2

I see you are another member of the Bluebird fan...

I see you are another member of the Bluebird fan club. Do you believe if the PGC repealed ARs for 2011 ,most PA hunters would let BB and 1.5 buck walk? If you do you are living in fantasy land.
Forum: Northeast
01-18-2011, 10:35 AM
Replies: 87
Views: 6,121
Posted By bluebird2

Common sense doesn't tell you most hunters agree...

Common sense doesn't tell you most hunters agree with you, that is just your biased opinion.

One thing I accomplished is that the PGC and DCNR have admitted that they present the data in such a...
Forum: Northeast
01-17-2011, 02:50 PM
Replies: 87
Views: 6,121
Posted By bluebird2

No you don't, you just think you do. How many PA...

No you don't, you just think you do. How many PA hunters agree with your position compared to how many hunters agree with me? PA hunters are harvesting a higher percentage of our male deer as BB...
Forum: Northeast
01-17-2011, 02:07 PM
Replies: 87
Views: 6,121
Posted By bluebird2

You may want a challenge and that is fine with...

You may want a challenge and that is fine with me, but the vast majority of PA hunters aren't trophy hunters and are happy with any legal buck and don't give a rip about how old it might be....
Forum: Northeast
01-17-2011, 01:54 PM
Replies: 87
Views: 6,121
Posted By bluebird2

In 2001 159K PA hunters harvested a 1.5 buck...

In 2001 159K PA hunters harvested a 1.5 buck and a lot more PA hunters would have been more than happy to harvest a 1.5 buck. Furthermore, a lot of PA hunters who harvest a 2.5 buck don't even know...
Forum: Northeast
01-17-2011, 01:44 PM
Replies: 87
Views: 6,121
Posted By bluebird2

While the number of 8 pts. increased by 17% the...

While the number of 8 pts. increased by 17% the 1.5 buck harvest decreased by 53% and we now have 93,000 fewer successful buck hunters than we did before ARs were implemented.
Forum: Northeast
01-17-2011, 01:23 PM
Replies: 87
Views: 6,121
Posted By bluebird2

Yes a 17% increase is a significant failure when...

Yes a 17% increase is a significant failure when ARs were predicted to increase the number of 8 pts. by 100%. Furthermore, it is an indication that we may be high grading our buck just like in MIss.
Forum: Northeast
01-17-2011, 12:53 PM
Replies: 87
Views: 6,121
Posted By bluebird2

You might want to check your rule book again. The...

You might want to check your rule book again. The safety for archery is 50 yds. and for rifle hunters it is 150 yds. and that is from occupied buildings, farm buildings and commercial buildings.
Forum: Northeast
01-16-2011, 08:41 AM
Replies: 87
Views: 6,121
Posted By bluebird2

Apparently you forgot that Alt continued to make...

Apparently you forgot that Alt continued to make his predictions about the effects of ARs long after junior hunters were exempted from the effects of ARs. His claim about more and larger bucks...
Forum: Northeast
01-16-2011, 04:13 AM
Replies: 87
Views: 6,121
Posted By bluebird2

That is the typical response from someone that...

That is the typical response from someone that can't support their opinions with facts and is looking for a way to gracefully bow out of the discussion.
Forum: Northeast
01-15-2011, 11:30 AM
Replies: 87
Views: 6,121
Posted By bluebird2

Junior hunters were exempt from ARs from the...

Junior hunters were exempt from ARs from the start so Alt knew they would be harvesting a very small percentage of the non-AR legal buck and he still claimed ARs would double the number of 8 pts ...
Forum: Northeast
01-14-2011, 04:33 PM
Replies: 87
Views: 6,121
Posted By bluebird2

No, you did not see a lot of pictures of 5-7...

No, you did not see a lot of pictures of 5-7 yr.olds with 12 pt. buck and nobody believes that you did. Until you can provide actual PGC data on the number of non-AR legal buck harvested by junior...
Forum: Northeast
01-14-2011, 12:51 PM
Replies: 87
Views: 6,121
Posted By bluebird2

The number of buck harvested by junior hunters is...

The number of buck harvested by junior hunters is so small state that it has little or no effect on the number of 1.5 buck carried over. Also,remember some of the successful junior hunters are...
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