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Forum: Northeast
02-16-2009, 02:16 PM
Replies: 143
Views: 7,639
Posted By bluebird2

RE: Antler Restrictions (What they found in TX)

You are correct that none of the 10K buck lost to non-hunting mortality survived to become 2.5+ buck. But enough buck did survive so that 46% of the buck harvested were 2.5+ buck and 20% of the...
Forum: Northeast
02-13-2009, 12:47 PM
Replies: 143
Views: 7,639
Posted By bluebird2

RE: Antler Restrictions (What they found in TX)

Are you being sarcastic or do you really think the PGC would ever approve something like that?
Forum: Northeast
02-13-2009, 04:05 AM
Replies: 143
Views: 7,639
Posted By bluebird2

RE: Antler Restrictions (What they found in TX)

Then I guess the PGC would have no choice but to shorten archery season so the few bucks that would be left could breed the emaining doe undisturbed.;)
Forum: Northeast
02-13-2009, 03:55 AM
Replies: 143
Views: 7,639
Posted By bluebird2

RE: Antler Restrictions (What they found in TX)

I have more than enough evidence to support my position. All you have to do is total the number of bucks saved by ARs and subtract the number of 2.5+ buck harvested and see if you don't come up with...
Forum: Northeast
02-13-2009, 03:50 AM
Replies: 143
Views: 7,639
Posted By bluebird2

RE: Antler Restrictions (What they found in TX)

How do you think rifle hunters would react to allowing archers to harvest two buck before rifle hunters even set foot in the woods?
Forum: Northeast
02-12-2009, 06:50 PM
Replies: 143
Views: 7,639
Posted By bluebird2

RE: Antler Restrictions (What they found in TX)

ARs have resulted in a reduction of the buck harvest by over 10K buck/year since 2002 ,due solely to non-hunting mortality of the bucks saved by ARS. Therefore ARS = buck (HR)herd reduction!!!
Forum: Northeast
02-12-2009, 05:48 PM
Replies: 143
Views: 7,639
Posted By bluebird2

RE: Antler Restrictions (What they found in TX)

The failed ways of the past produced a buck harvest of 165 K and a 2.5+ buck harvest of 52,900 in 2002 . The new and improved deer management produced a buck harvest of 109K with only 48,048 2.5+...
Forum: Northeast
02-12-2009, 03:02 PM
Replies: 143
Views: 7,639
Posted By bluebird2

RE: Antler Restrictions (What they found in TX)

The TX ARs make bucks with a combined total of less than 4 pts. legal to be harvested. In Miss. their ARs protect all bucks with less than a total of 4 pts.
Forum: Northeast
02-12-2009, 02:41 PM
Replies: 143
Views: 7,639
Posted By bluebird2

RE: Antler Restrictions (What they found in TX)

Another problem with the TX ARs is that making bucks with up to 3 pts. legal would result in a big discrepancy in the number of bucks saved in various WMUs. In Allegheny Co. only 24% of 1.5 buck...
Forum: Northeast
02-12-2009, 10:53 AM
Replies: 143
Views: 7,639
Posted By bluebird2

RE: Antler Restrictions (What they found in TX)

Apparently you are forgetting that the TX plan allows for the harvest of 2 buck /hunter . Due the number of hunters in PA and the effects of HR, the PGC can not allow 2 buck /year so IMHO the TX plan...
Forum: Northeast
02-11-2009, 02:33 PM
Replies: 143
Views: 7,639
Posted By bluebird2

RE: Antler Restrictions (What they found in TX)

Quiet is not spelled ,"quite".
Forum: Northeast
02-11-2009, 06:56 AM
Replies: 143
Views: 7,639
Posted By bluebird2

RE: Antler Restrictions (What they found in TX)

You just referred to 2F and 2G so I suppose you fit that category.

The bottom line is neither you RSB, BTB or anyone else can explain how the PGC determines the number of antlerless tags based...
Forum: Northeast
02-11-2009, 02:51 AM
Replies: 143
Views: 7,639
Posted By bluebird2

RE: Antler Restrictions (What they found in TX)

That is your opinion which is completely unsupported by any facts. We can all claim that those that disagree with us ,don't know what they are talking about,but it is meaningless if you can't back it...
Forum: Northeast
02-10-2009, 02:54 PM
Replies: 143
Views: 7,639
Posted By bluebird2

RE: Antler Restrictions (What they found in TX)

I don't like math and I never was an accountant.
Forum: Northeast
02-10-2009, 01:50 PM
Replies: 143
Views: 7,639
Posted By bluebird2

RE: Antler Restrictions (What they found in TX)

You haven't even come close. All you do is make false accusations and you never back them up with facts. If you want to impress everyone show us how the PGC determines the number of antlerless tags...
Forum: Northeast
02-10-2009, 01:34 PM
Replies: 143
Views: 7,639
Posted By bluebird2

RE: Antler Restrictions (What they found in TX)

BWJ never has any data. He just makes things up as he goes along and then complains when he is challenged.

If the 2008 buck harvest drops below 100K ,it will indicate the herd has been reduced...
Forum: Northeast
02-10-2009, 01:26 PM
Replies: 143
Views: 7,639
Posted By bluebird2

RE: Antler Restrictions (What they found in TX)

I have yet to see a study that showed the average rack size of 2.5+ buck increased due to ARs.
Forum: Northeast
02-10-2009, 12:48 PM
Replies: 143
Views: 7,639
Posted By bluebird2

RE: Antler Restrictions (What they found in TX)

They would be bigger buck only because the average buck harvested with an AR herd would be bigger than the average bucks in a non_AR herd only because the smaller buck would not be illegal. The...
Forum: Northeast
02-10-2009, 12:26 PM
Replies: 143
Views: 7,639
Posted By bluebird2

RE: Antler Restrictions (What they found in TX)

And if Alt and the PGC had said that they wouldn't have been lying!!
Forum: Northeast
02-10-2009, 12:10 PM
Replies: 143
Views: 7,639
Posted By bluebird2

RE: Antler Restrictions (What they found in TX)

The funny thing is Alt and the PGC apparently didn't understand it because they told hunters for years that we would have more and bigger buck than ever before, and a lot of hunters believed them. I...
Forum: Northeast
02-10-2009, 10:44 AM
Replies: 143
Views: 7,639
Posted By bluebird2

RE: Antler Restrictions (What they found in TX)

The majority support ARs because they weren't told ARs will reduce the rack sizes and that we now have fewer 2.5+ buck than before ARs.
Forum: Northeast
02-10-2009, 08:26 AM
Replies: 143
Views: 7,639
Posted By bluebird2

RE: Antler Restrictions (What they found in TX)

Here are no studies that conclude the exact opposite. What they conclude is that there is no reason to cull 1.5 spikes. They also conclude that spikes are inferior for the rate of antler development...
Forum: Northeast
02-09-2009, 02:31 PM
Replies: 143
Views: 7,639
Posted By bluebird2

RE: Antler Restrictions (What they found in TX)

Wrong again sport. I never condemned their harvest estimates or population estimates. Instead I have consistently defended the PGC harvest data and population estimates as being as good as they could...
Forum: Northeast
02-09-2009, 02:17 PM
Replies: 143
Views: 7,639
Posted By bluebird2

RE: Antler Restrictions (What they found in TX)

Here is a quote from the 2007 AWR.


Based on that info ,it is obvious that the PGC is still using population estimates and DD goals to allocate antlerless allocations.
Forum: Northeast
02-09-2009, 01:53 PM
Replies: 143
Views: 7,639
Posted By bluebird2

RE: Antler Restrictions (What they found in TX)

Do you make a habit of supporting out right lies like that. The PGC harvest estimates have been judged to be statistically valid, therefore their populations would be statistically valid since they...
Forum: Northeast
02-09-2009, 01:37 PM
Replies: 143
Views: 7,639
Posted By bluebird2

RE: Antler Restrictions (What they found in TX)

The fact that those 1.5 buck BB were included in the antlerless harvest proves they were not a protected class of deer as 1.5 and 2.5+ spike bucks are with ARs. Also, the fact that it only happened...
Forum: Northeast
02-09-2009, 09:16 AM
Replies: 143
Views: 7,639
Posted By bluebird2

RE: Antler Restrictions (What they found in TX)

My opinions are support by the facts while Alt's opinions were refuted by the facts. Dr. R. is different story ,since he inherited the mess Alt created and now has to figure out a way to correct...
Forum: Northeast
02-09-2009, 08:27 AM
Replies: 143
Views: 7,639
Posted By bluebird2

RE: Antler Restrictions (What they found in TX)

The PGC estimates the herd every year just like they did in the past ,since that is the only way they can come up with their estimated changes in the deer density.



There was never a...
Forum: Northeast
02-09-2009, 07:27 AM
Replies: 143
Views: 7,639
Posted By bluebird2

RE: Antler Restrictions (What they found in TX)

The evidence that there was no detrimental effects is confirmed by the past high breeding rates, the 5% decrease in current breeding rates and the claims about all the big buck being harvested ...
Forum: Northeast
02-09-2009, 07:25 AM
Replies: 143
Views: 7,639
Posted By bluebird2

RE: Antler Restrictions (What they found in TX)

Once again you are flat out wrong and are totally misrepresenting what I posted in the past. If you will recall I posted the actula herd estimates for 2001 which showed a B/d of 1:2.1 which is what...
Forum: Northeast
02-09-2009, 06:59 AM
Replies: 143
Views: 7,639
Posted By bluebird2

RE: Antler Restrictions (What they found in TX)

There has been no documented adverse effects from over 50 years of harvesting 80% of the adult male population of deer.
Forum: Northeast
02-09-2009, 06:04 AM
Replies: 143
Views: 7,639
Posted By bluebird2

RE: Antler Restrictions (What they found in TX)

Prior to ARs our B/D ratio met QDMA recommendations. ARs were supposed to increase breeding rates and productivity and shorten the breeding window and none of that happened. ARs were completely...
Forum: Northeast
02-09-2009, 03:47 AM
Replies: 143
Views: 7,639
Posted By bluebird2

RE: Antler Restrictions (What they found in TX)

No that has not been proven to be true. There has been relatively little if any research where the DNA makeup of 1.5 spikes has been compared larger 1.5 buck. One thing that has been proven is that...
Forum: Northeast
02-08-2009, 06:02 PM
Replies: 143
Views: 7,639
Posted By bluebird2

RE: Antler Restrictions (What they found in TX)

Here is a clear example of where your inherent bias prevents from thinking rationally. the 3" spike rule was obviously designed to prevent BB from being harvested as an antlered deer and provided a...
Forum: Northeast
02-08-2009, 05:07 PM
Replies: 143
Views: 7,639
Posted By bluebird2

RE: Antler Restrictions (What they found in TX)

That simply is not true. The 3" spike rule was designed to protect BB from being harvested as antlered deer, and it was not designed to protect 1.5+ buck. We are now harvesting the best of the buck...
Forum: Northeast
02-08-2009, 03:58 PM
Replies: 143
Views: 7,639
Posted By bluebird2

RE: Antler Restrictions (What they found in TX)

That is absolutely not true and shows that you don't understand the concept of high grading. The initial effects of high grading has nothing to do with when the buck are harvested or when the doe are...
Forum: Northeast
02-08-2009, 01:21 PM
Replies: 143
Views: 7,639
Posted By bluebird2

RE: Antler Restrictions (What they found in TX)

Here is an interesting quote from the link.


So why did the PGC implement ARs when they knew it would likely have an adverse effect on antler quality just like it did in Miss.


here...
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