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Forum: Northeast
01-12-2005, 06:50 PM
Replies: 138
Views: 8,036
Posted By deaddeer

RE: how many won't hunt PA again bc/ of ar's?

Try reading the PGN or the PGC press releases . We carried over 80 K bucks from 2002 and harvested 62K 2.5+ buck in 2003, Reduce the 80K buck by just 15% due to normal adult non-hunting mortality...
Forum: Northeast
01-12-2005, 06:15 PM
Replies: 138
Views: 8,036
Posted By deaddeer

RE: how many won't hunt PA again bc/ of ar's?

In 2003 197K adult doe were harvested ,which was more than the entire anterless harvest in 1999. So much for your ridiculous smart doe theory.

In 2003 ,85% of the 2.5+ buck were harvested . So...
Forum: Northeast
01-12-2005, 05:47 PM
Replies: 138
Views: 8,036
Posted By deaddeer

RE: how many won't hunt PA again bc/ of ar's?

Alt told us there was nothing wrong with the genetics of our herd after 50 years of harvesting 80% of our 1.5 buck. Furthermore ,after just one yaer of AR , all the Alt and AR supporters are tellind...
Forum: Northeast
01-12-2005, 03:54 PM
Replies: 138
Views: 8,036
Posted By deaddeer

RE: how many won't hunt PA again bc/ of ar's?

While it is true that the occassional spike may surpass a 1.5 ,8 pt. at maturuity , you can't produce one study that shows that the average spike will equal or surpass the avg. 1.5 8 pt. When we...
Forum: Northeast
01-12-2005, 02:38 PM
Replies: 138
Views: 8,036
Posted By deaddeer

RE: how many won't hunt PA again bc/ of ar's?

Yes, but it is to bad they were wrong.




When discussing scientific der management it is better to rely on the scince of numbers to describe things , rather than relying on personal...
Forum: Northeast
01-12-2005, 02:33 PM
Replies: 138
Views: 8,036
Posted By deaddeer

RE: how many won't hunt PA again bc/ of ar's?

Can you produce a link to any study that shows that the date of birth is correlated to the number of points a 1.5 buck produces as a 1.5. Are all 1.5 8 pts. born before the 1.5 6 pt. and are all AR...
Forum: Northeast
01-12-2005, 11:13 AM
Replies: 138
Views: 8,036
Posted By deaddeer

RE: how many won't hunt PA again bc/ of ar's?

Anyone with the least bit of common sense would realize that a 1.5 6 or 8 pt. has expressed greater genetic potentual for rapidly developing big racks than a 1.5 spike. All the studies show that it...
Forum: Northeast
01-11-2005, 04:56 PM
Replies: 138
Views: 8,036
Posted By deaddeer

RE: how many won't hunt PA again bc/ of ar's?

Explain how the deer are going to sort out the best genes when we harvested the buck with the best genes as 1.5 buck and harvested the vast majority of the 2.5+ buck with the best genes ....
Forum: Northeast
01-11-2005, 04:42 PM
Replies: 42
Views: 2,166
Posted By deaddeer

RE: Things not likely to change in PA... at least not this year.

Tell that to your fellow archers who have been relying on the rifle hunters to control the herd ,while they hunted for their trophies. The antlered to anterless PS ratio is around 1:5 ,but the...
Forum: Northeast
01-11-2005, 04:35 PM
Replies: 29
Views: 1,336
Posted By deaddeer

RE: Some of Gary Alts parting words

I challenge you to find one quote from Alt where he said harvests would decline. What he said was ,we would have more and bigger buck than ever before in PA, hunting would be better than ever, AR...
Forum: Northeast
01-11-2005, 03:17 PM
Replies: 29
Views: 1,336
Posted By deaddeer

RE: Some of Gary Alts parting words

The train wreck may not have come to the are where you hunt , but it has occurred in many other areas. When are you going to address the issues I raised in my previous post or are you going to tryy...
Forum: Northeast
01-11-2005, 02:27 PM
Replies: 29
Views: 1,336
Posted By deaddeer

RE: Some of Gary Alts parting words

If you did a little reading instead of just relyng on what Alt tells you and your opinionns ,you would know that the harvests have decreased dramatically in the areas where the herd has been reduced....
Forum: Northeast
01-11-2005, 08:21 AM
Replies: 42
Views: 2,166
Posted By deaddeer

RE: Things not likely to change in PA... at least not this year.

While outdoor writers all over the state are praising Alt and thanking him for his efforts ,I would also like to thank Alt for the following,

THANK YOU Alt for:

1. Stating that late born...
Forum: Northeast
01-10-2005, 08:42 AM
Replies: 138
Views: 8,036
Posted By deaddeer

RE: how many won't hunt PA again bc/ of ar's?

Due To AR we stopped shooting small buck in PA in 2002. The result was only 9,400 additional hunters harvested a 2.5+ buck in 2003 ,while 61 K hunters failed to harvest a buck. So a whole lot of buck...
Forum: Northeast
01-09-2005, 06:40 PM
Replies: 17
Views: 2,099
Posted By deaddeer

RE: Pennsylvania deer regulations

But there won't be if the herd in that area is reduced to the statewide goal of 12 DPSM. Enjoy it while it lasts because if HR continues it won't last very long!
Forum: Northeast
01-09-2005, 04:21 PM
Replies: 20
Views: 1,071
Posted By deaddeer

RE: Thoughts for the Jan Meeting

The area that is at 12 DPSM is 2 G , which has the highest percentage of forested habitat of any WMU and therefore the least variation in carrying capacities. therefore smaller WMu's would have...
Forum: Northeast
01-08-2005, 02:43 PM
Replies: 32
Views: 1,698
Posted By deaddeer

RE: Ask for stricter AR in Pa 1/23

When we are talking about the B/D ratio we are talking about the adult breeding B/D ,not the antlereed to anterless PS ratio. We had 1 M OW deer in 2000 and harvested 203K buck , which means we...
Forum: Northeast
01-08-2005, 02:27 PM
Replies: 32
Views: 1,698
Posted By deaddeer

RE: Ask for stricter AR in Pa 1/23

Smaller WMU's will not result in lower anterless allocations or increased OWDD goals. Since the PGC does not recognize the habitat value of farmland, areas with the most farmland will still have the...
Forum: Northeast
01-08-2005, 01:59 PM
Replies: 32
Views: 1,698
Posted By deaddeer

RE: Ask for stricter AR in Pa 1/23

How can you say that AR is workig when the reason Alt gave for implementing AR was to improve the breeding ecology and to reduce the number of late born fawns by shortening the breeding period. ...
Forum: Northeast
01-08-2005, 10:32 AM
Replies: 32
Views: 1,698
Posted By deaddeer

RE: Ask for stricter AR in Pa 1/23

We didn't have a problem with the B/D ratio and the closer the B/D ratio gets to 1:1 the lower the sustainable buck harvest will be.



Do you really belive the PGC will allow the OW herd to...
Forum: Northeast
01-08-2005, 07:51 AM
Replies: 32
Views: 1,698
Posted By deaddeer

RE: Ask for stricter AR in Pa 1/23

Do you really support harvesting an additional 100,000 adult doe in order to save BB. Do you realize that if the anterless harvests remained around the 323K we harvested in 2003, we would be...
Forum: Northeast
01-07-2005, 06:56 PM
Replies: 32
Views: 1,698
Posted By deaddeer

RE: Ask for stricter AR in Pa 1/23

Also, we should not lose sight of the fact that In Ark. and MI hunters can harvest two buck/yr. and in Miss. hunters can harvest 3 buck /yr. The fact is PA hunters are some of the best ,most...
Forum: Northeast
01-07-2005, 05:52 PM
Replies: 32
Views: 1,698
Posted By deaddeer

RE: Ask for stricter AR in Pa 1/23

Yes he did and the result is that hunters are disgusted ith the low number of deer they saw this year.



The exact same thing could be said for AR. yet they put it on the books and no one...
Forum: Northeast
01-07-2005, 04:58 PM
Replies: 20
Views: 1,071
Posted By deaddeer

RE: Thoughts for the Jan Meeting

I am totally amazed that you still don't get it. The size of the units is totally irrelevant when the PGC only recognizes forested habitat. The PGC knows how much forested habitat we have in each...
Forum: Northeast
01-07-2005, 04:40 PM
Replies: 17
Views: 2,099
Posted By deaddeer

RE: Pennsylvania deer regulations

There is absolutely no evidence to indicate that is true in the majority of the state. While the herd was increasing AR only increased the harvest of 2.5 buck by 9K. Based on the old computer model...
Forum: Northeast
01-07-2005, 03:50 PM
Replies: 32
Views: 1,698
Posted By deaddeer

RE: Ask for stricter AR in Pa 1/23

Before you make that proposal you might want to consider the impact that willl have on future fawn recruitment and BB production. If hunters have to tag BB as an antlered deer ,the vast majority of...
Forum: Northeast
01-07-2005, 02:48 PM
Replies: 20
Views: 1,071
Posted By deaddeer

RE: Thoughts for the Jan Meeting

Apparently you totally missed the point of Chickory's post. The fact is even with smaller WMU's the goal will still be to reduce the herd from 1.1M OWD to 550K OWD. All the forested habitat is...
Forum: Northeast
01-06-2005, 05:33 PM
Replies: 23
Views: 1,515
Posted By deaddeer

RE: 2 of the top 3 reasons hunters quit

Can you explain how the unqualified hunters managed to harvest 80% of our 1.5 buck and 75% of our 2.5+ buck prior to AR? If you have a good answer for that one , then explain how we harvested 85% of...
Forum: Northeast
01-05-2005, 04:56 AM
Replies: 27
Views: 1,266
Posted By deaddeer

RE: Curious Pa deer food question

In NC PA the herd has been reduced significantly in just the last 10 years. Elk Co. went from 30 DPFSM in 1995 to 19 DPFSM in 2003 and it wasn't due to a decrease in the quality of the habitat, it...
Forum: Northeast
01-04-2005, 06:21 PM
Replies: 70
Views: 3,016
Posted By deaddeer

RE: Deer management in PA

I could make a long list of disparaging comments about archers who only wnat to harvest trophy buck or rifle hunters that refuse to harvest doe and we could accumulate a class of several hundred...
Forum: Northeast
01-04-2005, 05:27 PM
Replies: 12
Views: 1,285
Posted By deaddeer

RE: be praise pa Game Comm

Their was no typo in my post because I said the PGC conducted the trap and transfer program. Note I said nothing about funding for the program. Maybe both the NWTF and the PGC both deserve credit for...
Forum: Northeast
01-04-2005, 04:59 PM
Replies: 12
Views: 1,285
Posted By deaddeer

RE: be praise pa Game Comm

The NWTF did not conduct the trap and transfer operations that expanded the range of the turkeys in PA, just as the PGC was not responsible for the expansion of the deer range in PA. But, the PGC...
Forum: Northeast
01-04-2005, 02:37 PM
Replies: 12
Views: 1,285
Posted By deaddeer

RE: be praise pa Game Comm

Why don't you start by listing what you think the PGC has done that deserves our praise. IMHO the network of SGL's and the turkey restoration plan were major successes as was the deer program...
Forum: Northeast
01-04-2005, 11:13 AM
Replies: 27
Views: 1,266
Posted By deaddeer

RE: Curious Pa deer food question

Can you cite a source to support that claim? Is there any county in Ohio that has les than 12 DPSM?
Forum: Northeast
01-04-2005, 10:26 AM
Replies: 27
Views: 1,266
Posted By deaddeer

RE: Curious Pa deer food question

The same is true if there aren't enough deer left to benefit from the additional food.
Forum: Northeast
01-04-2005, 07:52 AM
Replies: 70
Views: 3,016
Posted By deaddeer

RE: Deer management in PA

Don't you mean we have to many buck hunters and not enough anterless hunters? The herd couldn't have increased like it did if we had too many doe hunters.
Forum: Northeast
01-04-2005, 06:39 AM
Replies: 70
Views: 3,016
Posted By deaddeer

RE: Deer management in PA

If we continue to loose more hunters the PGC will never be able to control the herd. Even with 1 M hunters they only sold around 550K anterless tags on the first round ,which shows many hunters ...
Forum: Northeast
01-03-2005, 03:00 PM
Replies: 27
Views: 1,266
Posted By deaddeer

RE: Curious Pa deer food question

You are certainly welcome. Anytime I can be of service just ask.
Forum: Northeast
01-03-2005, 12:39 PM
Replies: 27
Views: 1,266
Posted By deaddeer

RE: Curious Pa deer food question

The reason they don't is because the soils on most game lands are so poor that it would not be economically feasible to grow a crop to be marketed.
Forum: Northeast
01-03-2005, 06:16 AM
Replies: 67
Views: 2,915
Posted By deaddeer

RE: what do you want in pa

The big differences is in the intent of the person planting a crop strictly to attract game ,versus a farmer that is planting in order to harvest a crop.

BTW, I do not object to planting crops...
Forum: Northeast
01-02-2005, 07:40 PM
Replies: 67
Views: 2,915
Posted By deaddeer

RE: what do you want in pa

That's the exact answer I was looking for. In other words hunting over a crop planted for the sole purpose of attracting wildlife is no different than baiting,except one is legal and the other...
Forum: Northeast
01-02-2005, 06:57 PM
Replies: 67
Views: 2,915
Posted By deaddeer

RE: what do you want in pa

Can you explain what the differnce would be between planting five acreas of corn that was planted for the specific purpose of feeding wildlife with no intent to harvest it, or the same quantity of...
Forum: Northeast
01-02-2005, 10:03 AM
Replies: 35
Views: 1,681
Posted By deaddeer

RE: GREAT DAY FOR SPORTSMEN OF PA

The article by DR. Rosenberry was not from 20 years ago it was from 2002. But , you are in denial and i really don't expect you to accept anything that disproves your biased opinions.

But, for...
Forum: Northeast
01-02-2005, 06:32 AM
Replies: 35
Views: 1,681
Posted By deaddeer

RE: GREAT DAY FOR SPORTSMEN OF PA

Go to the PGC web site and read the article ,"countinh Deer" by Dr. Rosenberry. You will learn that the antlered buck harvest is the basis for estimating populations , not the naterless harvest. The...
Forum: Northeast
01-01-2005, 06:57 PM
Replies: 35
Views: 1,681
Posted By deaddeer

RE: GREAT DAY FOR SPORTSMEN OF PA

Can you explain how those lazy worthless PA hunters that didn't walk more than 100 yds , have harvested 80% of the PS buck for the last 20+ years? Do all those buck live and die within 100 yds of a...
Forum: Northeast
01-01-2005, 06:45 AM
Replies: 35
Views: 1,681
Posted By deaddeer

RE: GREAT DAY FOR SPORTSMEN OF PA

But the PGC is saying that there hasn't been any herd reduction ,yet hunters are reporting they are seeing the effects already.




Even if the OW herd is reduced to 750K, from the...
Forum: Northeast
12-31-2004, 04:35 PM
Replies: 35
Views: 1,681
Posted By deaddeer

RE: GREAT DAY FOR SPORTSMEN OF PA

Why would you say that when the PGC has said that the harvest of 352K anterless didn't reduce the herd and the 2003 harvest of 323K anterless only kept the herd stable? Why would the PGC reduce...
Forum: Northeast
12-31-2004, 04:17 PM
Replies: 67
Views: 2,915
Posted By deaddeer

RE: what do you want in pa

1. Revise the OWDD so that they reflect the true carrying capacity of all the habitat the deer utilize, not just forested habitat. This would increase the OWDD to 20-25 DPSM in mixed farmland and...
Forum: Northeast
12-30-2004, 04:26 PM
Replies: 50
Views: 4,784
Posted By deaddeer

RE: What has happened to Traditional PA Deer Hunting ?

That was the best post you made in a very long time!!
Forum: Northeast
12-30-2004, 05:53 AM
Replies: 50
Views: 4,784
Posted By deaddeer

RE: What has happened to Traditional PA Deer Hunting ?

Instead of denigrating our fellow hunters I think all us archers should be thanking them for doing the work of managing the herd so we can enjoy what amounts to six weeks of recreational hunting...
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