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Forum: Technical
01-30-2004, 05:18 PM
Replies: 11
Views: 795
Posted By TheArcheryProgram

RE: Am I underspined???

I just ran you through TAP and show the following:

The 5575 is way to weak even at 27.5" The 7595 @ 28" appears to be a very good match. With the VFT you will also be glad to have the stiffer...
Forum: Technical
01-11-2004, 02:02 PM
Replies: 1
Views: 391
Posted By TheArcheryProgram

RE: Ultratech speed??

272 f/s with an AMO draw of 29".
Forum: Technical
06-19-2003, 08:38 PM
Replies: 2
Views: 366
Posted By TheArcheryProgram

RE: Magnatec speed question.

TAP says:

292.3 f/s

That' s smokin! have fun! I love my UltraTec.

Tony Virnoche
The Archery Program
Forum: Technical
05-11-2003, 07:17 PM
Replies: 5
Views: 708
Posted By TheArcheryProgram

RE: Spine Charts and Brace Height

BuckSkin-

TAP provides by far a more technically accurate way to match arrows to a bow over ANY spine chart.

I will even go as far as saying it will take you to the next level of archery...
Forum: Technical
04-09-2003, 10:06 PM
Replies: 5
Views: 617
Posted By TheArcheryProgram

RE: Spine??????

I just ran your arrow and bow through ' The Archery Programs' spine graph and show even at 64 pounds you are just slightly weak. As long as you are still in the yellow I have found good flight. ...
Forum: Technical
04-09-2003, 09:55 PM
Replies: 4
Views: 569
Posted By TheArcheryProgram

RE: Speed Question

Well....

If it is any consolation I just ran your bow through ' The Archery Program' and it shows 237 f/s. The program usually predicts within +- 1-2 f/s with accurate input.

You have to...
Forum: Technical
04-07-2003, 04:12 PM
Replies: 6
Views: 569
Posted By TheArcheryProgram

RE: Help with RazorTec Speed problem....

I just ran your rig through ' The Archery Program' and show a few differences but the speed matches your results.

I show the arrow with 3" vanes to weigh around 395 grains. The program shows...
Forum: Technical
03-28-2003, 04:07 PM
Replies: 3
Views: 330
Posted By TheArcheryProgram

RE: Estimated bowspeed question

I just pushed your information through ' The Archery Program' and would say your chrono is broke! The program shows 267 f/s and is usually +- 2 f/s if you published draw length and brace are right....
Forum: Technical
02-08-2003, 10:39 PM
Replies: 6
Views: 492
Posted By TheArcheryProgram

RE: Spine Dumb, I am

I just ran you through 'The Archery Program' and show this arrow off the chart weak! I reccon this is your problem. I tried lowering your draw weight to 55 pounds and 65 grain tips and it only...
Forum: Technical
01-23-2003, 04:08 PM
Replies: 16
Views: 1,101
Posted By TheArcheryProgram

RE: speed?

TFOX-

No...not trying to start another debate, there really isn't any! :D

Facts are facts are facts are facts.......:)



Happy Shooting!
Forum: Technical
01-22-2003, 04:56 PM
Replies: 16
Views: 1,101
Posted By TheArcheryProgram

RE: speed?

Bear72-

I just ran your rig through 'The Archery Program' and it shows your arrow weighs around 403 grains @ 28" and it shoots 240 f/s @ 28" draw. I have seen the bows range long in draw length...
Forum: Technical
01-15-2003, 09:28 PM
Replies: 8
Views: 657
Posted By TheArcheryProgram

RE: heavy arrow speed with a DC Patriot

Bah ha ha ha I Love it!

Now you are thinking like me. I just had to run it through my program.....it shows 115 f/s thats pretty close!

Keep up the good work! I got a kick out of this one! ...
Forum: Technical
01-10-2003, 09:54 PM
Replies: 13
Views: 927
Posted By TheArcheryProgram

RE: Build me some arrows for 3d

Aussie-

I found a post on Archery Talk that listed the Patriot Dually @ 340 f/s! WOW!

Anyway...I ran it through @ 28" and show 285f/s for your 345 grain arrow @ 61.2 pounds. I assume your bow...
Forum: Technical
01-10-2003, 09:35 PM
Replies: 13
Views: 927
Posted By TheArcheryProgram

RE: Build me some arrows for 3d

Aussie-

What is the Bowtechs listed IBO speed for the new Patriot? I have heard that it is quite a bit quicker than last years. Last year they list the IBO @ 312-320. Or just post the speed...
Forum: Technical
01-10-2003, 04:27 PM
Replies: 13
Views: 927
Posted By TheArcheryProgram

RE: Build me some arrows for 3d

Aussie Guy-

Post the specs from the spec sheet that shipped with your bow and I will run those into the program for you and see what it spits out.

I need the Test Draw length, Brace Height,...
Forum: Technical
01-09-2003, 09:27 PM
Replies: 13
Views: 927
Posted By TheArcheryProgram

RE: Build me some arrows for 3d

Aussie guy...

How did you measure your draw length? Did you measure it?
Did you use the database BPF or the spec sheet from the bow?

The program only is as accurate as the data put in.
...
Forum: Technical
01-09-2003, 08:25 PM
Replies: 13
Views: 927
Posted By TheArcheryProgram

RE: Build me some arrows for 3d

Bayou-

You can download my free demo and build your very own arrow! The program lists almost all arrows available on the market today. Just make sure to observe the extreme performance factor...
Forum: Technical
01-06-2003, 09:03 PM
Replies: 10
Views: 1,013
Posted By TheArcheryProgram

RE: Arrow Flight - Question for Techies

Bobco-

Truthfully I am NOT a big fan of papertuning! I have myself spent countless hours on getting bullet holes only to have crappy groups at distance. I have also witnessed countless other...
Forum: Technical
01-02-2003, 08:06 PM
Replies: 5
Views: 507
Posted By TheArcheryProgram

RE: Arrow weight question?

Taz-

The spine of the arrow refers to its bend with a 1.94 pound weight supported between posts that are 28" apart.

This defelction is known as the arrows spine. This number directly...
Forum: Technical
01-01-2003, 01:39 PM
Replies: 4
Views: 472
Posted By TheArcheryProgram

RE: question for techies

Hunting Net must have hosed the weblink....it goes nowhere:

Try this:

http://www.thearcheryprogram.com



Happy Shooting!
Forum: Technical
01-01-2003, 11:39 AM
Replies: 4
Views: 472
Posted By TheArcheryProgram

RE: question for techies

This is EXACTLY why I wrote this software package!

Try it free for 15 days...but be warned.....it's addicting to play around with.

Happy Shooting!



>>>------Tony Virnoche------>>>...
Forum: Technical
12-31-2002, 02:40 PM
Replies: 5
Views: 507
Posted By TheArcheryProgram

RE: Arrow weight question?

Actually the 2016 if absolutely off the charts weak. The 2216 is even weak on the spine graph in my program....it shows yellow green weak.

a better match based on your setup appears to be a 2315....
Forum: Technical
12-31-2002, 09:42 AM
Replies: 10
Views: 1,013
Posted By TheArcheryProgram

RE: Arrow Flight - Question for Techies

Bobco-

I agree that it is a sub-conscious thing we do. What sucks is that it is SOOO hard to diagnose because it always boils down to one of those.."I can't be torquing the riser debates, because...
Forum: Technical
12-31-2002, 09:06 AM
Replies: 10
Views: 1,013
Posted By TheArcheryProgram

RE: Arrow Flight - Question for Techies

I am thinking it has something to do with the bows balance and how adding the stabaliser changes the way you hold the bow through the shot sequence. Do you have some sort of sling and shoot...
Forum: Technical
12-29-2002, 09:59 AM
Replies: 13
Views: 922
Posted By TheArcheryProgram

RE: Build me an arrow

Dennis-

Tried those....just a tad stiff for 65-67 pounds. If he was more in the 70-73 pound area they would be perfect.



>>>------Tony Virnoche------>>>
>>>---The Archery Program--->>>
Forum: Technical
12-28-2002, 09:46 PM
Replies: 13
Views: 922
Posted By TheArcheryProgram

RE: Build me an arrow

I just ran your specs through 'The Archery Program' and show the cx300 as pretty weak @ 30" 125grain and 65-67 pounds. I did a find arrow match and the best I can find for 30" and 100 grain to keep...
Forum: Technical
12-25-2002, 10:39 PM
Replies: 9
Views: 635
Posted By TheArcheryProgram

RE: Tech help with arrows

Paul-

Thank you for the help.....this makes life much simpler!

If your bows seems slow in the program I have found more often than not that you didn'a ctually measure the draw. Remember that...
Forum: Technical
12-22-2002, 09:15 PM
Replies: 1
Views: 610
Posted By TheArcheryProgram

RE: TIGHTEST PIN GAP???????????

Speed alone does not indicate what your pin gap will be. A FAR more important measurement is the sightline distance, or the measurement from your peep or eye to your sight pin. This distance has...
Forum: Technical
11-28-2002, 06:18 PM
Replies: 8
Views: 557
Posted By TheArcheryProgram

RE: Arrow spine H E L P!!!

I just ran through the latest revision of "The Archery Program" free 15 day trial.

The 125's show yellow weak on spine and the 75 show green stiff on spine. A 100 grain shows alomost dead nuts...
Forum: Technical
11-20-2002, 06:47 PM
Replies: 1
Views: 436
Posted By TheArcheryProgram

RE: calculating speed

I DO!

http://www.thearcheryprogram.com

pretty easy to use and a free trial! Enjoy....



>>>------Tony Virnoche------>>>
>>>---The Archery Program--->>>
Forum: Technical
10-18-2002, 05:42 PM
Replies: 4
Views: 615
Posted By TheArcheryProgram

RE: AMO and IBO speed tests and correct arrow spine?

The effects at the bow and what a chrono can see and report are negletible at best. I have done this test many times and can't definatively say it effects the speed reading.

Downrange is another...
Forum: Technical
10-17-2002, 06:24 PM
Replies: 2
Views: 532
Posted By TheArcheryProgram

RE: Carbon Express

The 6075 is a whole different arrow by Carbon Express. They are on their home page http://www.thegametracker.com/

They are designed for the hunter because of their weight and wall thickness.

...
Forum: Technical
10-09-2002, 04:00 PM
Replies: 6
Views: 511
Posted By TheArcheryProgram

RE: Original Buckmaster KE question

RangeBall-

Here is a pretty good approximation of what you have just by running any old arrow through 'The Archery Program' because we all know now that a bow at a given draw length and weight...
Forum: Technical
10-07-2002, 10:34 PM
Replies: 4
Views: 483
Posted By TheArcheryProgram

RE: arrow spine?

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Bo539


Beman Camo Hunter 340
Weight 484 grains speed 283 f/s KE 74.37 ft/lbs...
Forum: Technical
10-07-2002, 10:30 PM
Replies: 4
Views: 483
Posted By TheArcheryProgram

RE: arrow spine?

Bo539

Here are just a few:
Arrow 29&quot;
Vanes 4&quot; x 3
Carbon Express 6075 Terminator Select
Weight 483 grains speed = 264 f/s KE 74.67 FOC 10.9%

Arrow Dynamics Nitro Stinger Gold
Weight 420...
Forum: Technical
10-05-2002, 03:22 PM
Replies: 2
Views: 389
Posted By TheArcheryProgram

RE: Question on shooting from a tree?

To answer your question on identifying adult does, look at the length of the snout. An adult doe will have a much longer slender snout than a young deer. Many times you will see a doe with a...
Forum: Technical
10-03-2002, 05:07 PM
Replies: 8
Views: 521
Posted By TheArcheryProgram

RE: arrow flight ?

Crap....Imissed!
First of all....I like that handle! how creative!

The shorter axle atually makes the 2314 even a lesser viable shaft than it was with an axle longer than 43&quot;.

The cam in my...
Forum: Technical
10-02-2002, 03:40 PM
Replies: 8
Views: 521
Posted By TheArcheryProgram

RE: arrow flight ?

I just ran you through &quot;The Archery Program&quot; and I see this as a severely weak spine for your bow. What I used for reference was a 30&quot; arrow an axle length of &gt;43&quot;, hard cam, and finger release.
...
Forum: Technical
09-23-2002, 07:05 PM
Replies: 9
Views: 974
Posted By TheArcheryProgram

RE: Calculating arrow speed

MJL927-

Try downloading my trial of 'The Archery Program'. If you put in your bows specs it will calculate your velocity very accurately, and from here you can do exactly what you just desribed...
Forum: Technical
09-20-2002, 08:39 PM
Replies: 9
Views: 587
Posted By TheArcheryProgram

RE: Huge arrow drop expected?

TFOX-

You are absolutely correct sir, however the bow would have to be so far out of tune that it would actually be hard to hold back and you would have two distinct walls about 6&quot; apart!

I...
Forum: Technical
09-20-2002, 06:31 PM
Replies: 9
Views: 587
Posted By TheArcheryProgram

RE: Huge arrow drop expected?

huntmup-

I am not trying to discredit what you are saying but your pin gap from 30-40 yards can't possibly be double what your 20-30 yard gap is. Typically the difference between the two will run...
Forum: Technical
09-18-2002, 08:18 PM
Replies: 2
Views: 320
Posted By TheArcheryProgram

RE: Help with KE please

DoninVa-

I just ran your setup through 'The Archery Program' and show you are right around 208 f/s with 50.5 ft/lbs of KE with the 2117 weighing 520 grains.

I agree that this isn't enough KE...
Forum: Technical
08-16-2002, 08:17 PM
Replies: 235
Views: 13,503
Posted By TheArcheryProgram

RE: Does Kinetic Energy = Penetration?

BobCo-

Just type the address listed into a browser rather than clicking the link. I have built anti-frame grabbing into my webpage bacause some other websites were building it in to theirs! ...
Forum: Technical
08-15-2002, 04:49 PM
Replies: 235
Views: 13,503
Posted By TheArcheryProgram

RE: Does Kinetic Energy = Penetration?

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Archery Program, I have a scenerio, Lets say that two different bows are used, with...
Forum: Technical
08-14-2002, 07:23 PM
Replies: 235
Views: 13,503
Posted By TheArcheryProgram

RE: Does Kinetic Energy = Penetration?

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Thanks TheArcheryProgram!
I am glad this didn't degenerate into something ugly as I...
Forum: Technical
08-14-2002, 01:09 PM
Replies: 235
Views: 13,503
Posted By TheArcheryProgram

RE: Does Kinetic Energy = Penetration?

I will try and sum this up as simply as I can based on all the good posts so far.

First of all the arrow is in constant deceleration even before it leaves the string. If you ever look at a draw...
Forum: Technical
03-03-2002, 07:47 PM
Replies: 5
Views: 468
Posted By TheArcheryProgram

RE: How much speed loss?

You will lose approx 6 f/s.

Lets put it this way.....if you were printing a sight tape with my program, 6 f/s would make alomost no difference to 40 yards, and very little as far as 60!

Switch...
Forum: Technical
02-28-2002, 11:29 AM
Replies: 3
Views: 7,058
Posted By TheArcheryProgram

RE: calculate arrow speed without chronograph

The charts are going to be a rough guide at best for one main reason. They don't take into account drag differences.

I have written a very extensive ballistic program that will very accurately...
Forum: Technical
02-26-2002, 05:01 PM
Replies: 11
Views: 937
Posted By TheArcheryProgram

RE: Where are your Pins? 3D shooters!

Darn buttons!

Edited by - thearcheryprogram on 02/26/2002 18:02:39
Forum: Technical
02-26-2002, 05:01 PM
Replies: 11
Views: 937
Posted By TheArcheryProgram

RE: Where are your Pins? 3D shooters!

I think this is a more complicated question than you think. What is your arrow speed and peep to pin length? A slow bow may need pins @ 5 yard increments. Also your distance judging abilty will...
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