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Bipod for a 308 win?
Looking for one of those portable bipods for my 308. what ones are the best and will fit my 308? how does it mount on? any info is nice.
INFO i have a savage axis 308 win bolt action:fighting0007: |
harris 9-13" swivel with leg notches, mounts to your sling swivel stud
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Originally Posted by Ridge Runner
(Post 4184352)
harris 9-13" swivel with leg notches, mounts to your sling swivel stud
RR Harris is the best ! http://www.harrisbipods.com/ If you are looking for a portable bipod I like Cabela's new design. http://www.cabelas.com/product/Cabel...h-All+Products ............but Bog-Pod has been the best up till now IMO. http://www.cabelas.com/product/BOGge...h-All+Products http://www.cabelas.com/product/BOGge...h-All+Products |
And why pray tell would you want a bi pod on a rifle unless it has a bull barrel and your coyote or other varmint hunting.
Just plain old shooting sticks works very well, some are adjustable so you can shoot standing. I made a bifur x stick from varmint al's web site. Used golf club shafts for short ones and had wood for the taller one. :D Al |
I also use these if I am traveling extremely lite..................
http://www.cabelas.com/product/Stone...-II/531712.uts They make tall sticks which I have as well if I expect to be shooting from a standing position, or the cover is so tall that short sticks will do me no good. Very lite and compact (and deploy quickly) !!! All a matter of personal preference and terrain. |
My favorite bipod is made by Harris. They cost a bit more but I believe they are the best.
Sticks have their place. I use them more than a bipod, but sometimes a bipod is much better. |
Harris bipeds are horrible. Loud to deploy. Hard to get stable in uneven terrain. Can change impact of round from bench site in to bipod use.
Shooting sticks or a shooting pack are much better. |
Originally Posted by miketodd58
(Post 4188253)
Harris bipeds are horrible. Loud to deploy. Hard to get stable in uneven terrain. Can change impact of round from bench site in to bipod use.
Shooting sticks or a shooting pack are much better. "Unstable on uneven terrain" is really a user error also. "Can change impact of round from bench site in to bipod use," coupled with the follow up statement that "shooting sticks or a pack are better" is just flat lying. Any forend pressure against the barrel that is different from one shot to the next can change your POI, and it has nothing to do with what support you are using. Put your rifle weight on a set of shooting sticks and you have the same pressure on the stock - and potentially against the barrel of a non-free floated rifle - as you would when using a harris bipod. If you've convinced yourself that you shoot worse off of a bipod, it's much more likely that you're failing to preload the pod in the field - again, a user error. |
+1 nm448!!!
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Originally Posted by Ridge Runner
(Post 4184352)
harris 9-13" swivel with leg notches, mounts to your sling swivel stud
RR |
+2 what NM says, from my experience the 3 most common causes for inconsistent shooting at distance are improper parralex/focus setting, not preloading the pod, and not having the rifle level.
This group was shot off a harris bipod with a rear support at a lazered 752 yards ![]() RR |
Good shooting RR and that definitely shows a bipod works fine if the guy behind the gun knows what he's doing! I also think you hit the nail on the head when you mentioned having that rear support, as that really goes a long way in cutting the "wobbles" down. I think most have no idea how much that helps settle in on the target than just having the support out on the forearm.
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RR,
I knew that Harris bipod "comment" was going to raise the hair on a few peoples necks ?!?! LOL |
my rear support is basicly a "cheese wedge" of closed cell foam covered in clothits 9"wx12"L and thickness tapers from 2 to 5 inches, I use this because if I set the 9-13" bipod in the third notch I can slide the rear support to shoot from level to the top of most ridges here, saves me valueable time setting up the shot. here is a pic, IIRC that deer was taken at 702 yards
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That rig sure looks capable.
So the window of opportunity opens and close quickly for you too ?!?! Most shots you shoot prone ? |
Originally Posted by Sheridan
(Post 4188538)
That rig sure looks capable.
So the window of opportunity opens and close quickly for you too ?!?! Most shots you shoot prone ? RR |
I'm with Ridge on this one best pod I've ever used. I've bought others and larger models. I like the Harris 9"-13".
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Ridge come out west and get into some of these 1000 yard competitions I'd bet you'd do very well. Very well indeed. That 752 yard group is beyond impressive.
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Originally Posted by Sheridan
(Post 4188538)
So the window of opportunity opens and close quickly for you too ?!?! one the instance I find the game in the scope I again range it, check the charts, verify my drop/drift, then settle down on the rifle, and watch, watch for that 1/2second window, when by watching the targets body language and demeaner I know they will not take a step during the TOF. all the while watching through the bullet path and take note of any variences in the wind in the bullet path, usually I make a minute wind adjustment as I see the window start to develop, by this time I have determined if I have a 90% or greater chance of making the shot, if so I check the level, hold low on the target and load the pod (lean into the rifle with about the rifles weigh of pressure) this brings the crosshair up on the target and takes the spring and flex out of the pod, then take the shot during the window, if not I abort the shot, and many times the window never appears and the target just walks out of site, when the trigger breaks its like that old ketchup commercial waiting to see the impact. one of my favorite glassing spots, have taken a couple dozen deer from here, couple fall turkeys shots run to around 750 yds. ![]() another, killed 19 bucks and a bear here ![]() this spot max's out at 550'ish ![]() RR |
Originally Posted by Blackelk
(Post 4188565)
Ridge come out west and get into some of these 1000 yard competitions I'd bet you'd do very well. Very well indeed. That 752 yard group is beyond impressive.
RR |
Two things that stick out for me when guys criticize long distance hunters is this:
When is the last time you saw a deer 1,000yrds from any cover? How many shot opportunities REALLY exist for 600yrds+ in your terrain? Adding range to your shot doesn't really always add acres of huntable kill-zone. It's not like a guy can draw a 1,000yrd circle around their position and expect game to ever cross 90% of it. It can give you the ability to access multiple spots where game might travel at once, but by and large, all of the space between is wasted. I have a few hunting spots where I can pick my range and take a shot anywhere from 50yrds to 500-700yrds, but moving back doesn't actually add any more huntable kill zone. The deer will still only travel the same ravines and feed in the same small patch. Go find a spot where you really think you'd have a 600yrd shot in the field on game. Sure, I can go out to the ONE HILL in western Kansas and see for miles and miles, but the reality is that game won't be traveling in the flats. 250lb muleys out there manage to hide themselves in the low-lines, and entire herds of antelope can conceal themselves behind a gentle crown. Stand hunting for big game is ambush hunting. You wait in an advantageous position for your target animal to enter a desired kill zone. It doesn't matter if you're 20ft away or 2 miles, you're still relying upon the game entering your predetermined kill-zone to offer you a shot. Terrain is also a big hurdle. I've hunted in several states and across various terrain, and whether you're in the mountains or in Flatlandia, finding shots where you have real visibility that far is incredibly rare. Ridge's pictures illustrate how little the actual kill zone really is, even if you're a LONG ways away. In the picture behind his rifle, the entire hillside in front of him is obscured by trees, with very little ground visibility, meaning his visibility and opportunity for shots on deer are very limited. In the picture of the valley with the small grassy opening, you're looking at several acres in the picture, with less than about 10% of the hillside open for a shot on game. Long range hunting is NOT the same thing as painting a 1,000yrd circle around yourself and killing anything that crosses into that circle. If you want to kill a deer as it walks down a rub-line to a watering hole, it doesn't matter if you're 10yrds away or 1,000yrds away - you simply need a spot where you have a clear line of sight to THAT kill zone. |
Ridge's pictures illustrate how little the actual kill zone really is, even if you're a LONG ways away. In the picture behind his rifle, the entire hillside in front of him is obscured by trees, with very little ground visibility, meaning his visibility and opportunity for shots on deer are very limited. In the picture of the valley with the small grassy opening, you're looking at several acres in the picture, with less than about 10% of the hillside open for a shot on game. RR |
Another vote for the Harris. The best bi pods I have ever used.
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Harris must be top notch....I thought the 9"-13" Caldwell was adequate for prone shooting on level ground. I will get a taller Harris bipod when I upgrade.
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My favorite bipod is made by Harris.
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X2 Haris is the best bipod
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Not sure if they still make them but I got a Vers-a-pod many years ago and I really like it. The base installs on you front sling stud and you can still attach your sling. the bipod itself can be removed and carried in your pack until you need it. And you can get two lengths, one for lying and and another for sitting-kneeling and they are interchangeable. Plus you can buy additional bases for your other rifles.
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