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Big Uncle 02-08-2015 01:57 PM

Aluminum rings?
 
I have had a couple of guys recommend Talley Lightweight rings lately. These are rings with a built-in base and made of aluminum. I know Mel Forbes liked them, but then he is just plain over the top when it comes to weight savings.

Talley makes good rings, but aluminum? Steel screws holding aluminum rings together. They should hold the scope well in the rings and maybe they would not scratch as much. I just wonder about the durability if they are used on a rifle with more recoil than a target/varmint cartridge.

Anyone here use them on hunting rifles?

Sheridan 02-08-2015 03:01 PM

Take a look at these;

http://www.dnzproducts.com/why-dnz/

d80hunter 02-08-2015 03:33 PM

I went full weaver aluminum bases and rings with my savage 7mm-08. Recoil is extremely manageable with that caliber, a tad more noticeable than hot .357 loads in a 5lb. carbine (which is ridiculously manageable). I spent time using lock-tight and properly torqued the screws. I am confident with my set up and see know reason to add weight for reinsurance. If I was shooting a magnum rifle that would be a different story.

BOWHUNTERCOP 02-09-2015 12:37 AM

I like DNZ and Talley

Valentine 02-09-2015 02:04 AM

"Talley makes good rings, but aluminum"

Some companies have been using aluminum in tree stands for years. I have one.

bpd1982 02-09-2015 07:49 AM

I have Talleys on a Tikka T-3 lite SS in 338 Winchester and they work just fine. I would not worry about them not standing up to recoil. It they work well on a 6.3 # 338 they will work on anything.

Big Uncle 02-09-2015 10:10 AM

I travel frequently and the airline baggage guys are hard on gear. I have decided to stay with steel for big game rifles.

I may try a set of these on a light recoiling rifle that does not get much abuse. They appear to be well made and they are certainly inexpensive.

bronko22000 02-09-2015 06:21 PM

You must stop thinking in the past. With the proper alloying and heat treating aluminum is plenty strong enough to handle the recoil of any rifle. It is used on aircraft, tanks, other military vehicles and many other uses where only steel was once used.

bugsNbows 02-10-2015 07:40 AM

The Talley 2 piece aluminum mounts are well made and perfectly suitable for typical hunting rig configurations.

Big Uncle 02-10-2015 08:11 AM


Originally Posted by bugsNbows (Post 4184235)
The Talley 2 piece aluminum mounts are well made and perfectly suitable for typical hunting rig configurations.

Have you used them yourself yet?

bpd1982 02-10-2015 09:30 AM

:poke: I also have them on a 264 Winchester.

bugsNbows 02-11-2015 08:10 AM


Originally Posted by Big Uncle (Post 4184243)
Have you used them yourself yet?

Yes I have. I believe the first set was on a Kimber 84 in .308. I also had them on a Win 70 in .270 WSM. Both applications were several (7-8 I'm guessing) years ago.

WV Hunter 02-11-2015 09:50 AM

I have aluminum rings on several guns. 4 muzzleloaders and one CF. No issues at all, ever. Some of my ML have run some hard kicking loads from time to time.

I have not personally used the one's you mentioned, but I would in a second if I had them. In fact, I really like the idea of a one piece base/ring.

liquidorange 02-11-2015 04:02 PM

strength is one thing. steel screws into aluminum threads isint always pretty. unless weight is an issue my vote is steel for the long run.

Ridge Runner 02-15-2015 07:06 AM

many of the better known machine shops make they're top of the line rings out of aluminum, seekins precision is one, as is TPS, the burris extreme series are also aluminum, I have those on my 7mm AM, they are beefy.
RR

SecondChance 02-15-2015 09:25 AM

BlackHawk Tactical are aluminum as well and they are mounted on my work .338 Lapua as well as my personal .338 and 308. Not an issue at all. I also have them on .460 S&W pistol with a Burris LER scope.

Tollster 02-27-2015 05:12 PM

I have the DNZ Game reaper aluminum one piece base and upper rings on my 30-06. Although you use steel screws, even if you hand torqued it , you wouldn't strip the base, due to the length of thread engagement in the base. They are engineered this way.

As for the base attaching to the receiver, the elongation of the threads when torqued apply pressure against the screw head base, this is what keep them tight, same applies to the rings.

Its super rigid, particularly when the scope tube is set, there is no bore measurements, nor honing for alignment purposes. The less mechanical connections, the more rigid the mount. Best of all, the base and rings only cost 56.00, saving me money compared to a leopold base and ring set. Not to mention the weight savings on my mountain rifle.

By the way, the DNZ replaced a weaver mount that came on the rifle.

Mine set on the receiver very tight and uniform, a true piece of engineering and machining...

Mossberg ATR 100

you won't be disappointed.

flags 03-03-2015 04:30 AM


Originally Posted by Big Uncle (Post 4184243)
Have you used them yourself yet?

Yep. Never had a problem with them. I have a friend that uses them on a 416 Rigby. They hold up on that rig and it has made the trip to Africa several times. If the recoil of the Rigby doesn't shake them loose, I'm betting they will suffice on whatever gun you want to put them on.

PigBrick 04-25-2015 06:46 AM

I have 7 sets of Talley LWs on 7 different rifles, ranging from a 700 in 260 to a Mod 70 in 300 WM. Never had a problem and they save a few oz. (sometimes several oz). I highly recommend them. I do utilize steel DDs etc. on my rifles 338WM and above.

HatchieLuvr 04-25-2015 12:58 PM

I've been using the Talley lightweight 1pc alloy setups for over a decade on several of my rigs. The only time I had any trouble was when I improperly torqued the top of the rings down (got uneven and one side was touching, the other wasn't). The top of the ring cracked then (after several firings). But that wasn't the fault of Talley, it was my dumba... for not leaving proper spacing and torque on the rings. (on essentially all rings you hafta leave a gap, that assures proper "spring tension" which then holds your scope on. If you screw/stretch the rings until they touch then you aren't holding the scope properly anyway)

I recently moved a few scopes around and despite having great Warne steel rings on a Rem Custom Shop 280 (Was holding on a VXIII 4.5x14x50) I switched the scope to another rifle and put a Conquest 4.5x14x40 on the 280 and wanted a lower fit than the Warnes. The Talley 1 pc lightweight fit like a glove and based on my past experience with them, I have the utmost confidence in the system! If I remember correctly, on the LW 1pc setup Talley uses a heavier, courser thread on the rings instead of a regular machine thread. That makes that connection stronger as well!

GREAT stuff! :happy0001:

ps
The DNZ stuff IS great as well but DADGUM is that a big, UGLY setup! Sticks out like a big ol hairy mole on the nose of a otherwise beautiful woman! :s8:


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