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With all the "talk" about Leupold, Zeiss, Leica, Swarovski and even Schmidt & Bender; how come I NEVER heard anyone recommend Aimpoint, Trijicon, or even Nightforce ?

Trijicon! .

Swift............

Don't forget Kahles

Really?...

I own a few of too, and like them. Not premium but dependable.:confused0024:

Yes...if Lupy crap is considered in the same class with Zeiss, Kahles, Schmidt and Bender....they yes.

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Getting a little offensive there with the brand bashing.

Upper crust Leupold, not the standard VX3 and lower that most own, is indeed top notch stuff. As for Swift, decent scopes for the green but not in the same category as the upper European stuff or Nightforce.

Speaking to my personal experience is all...I grew up 30 miles from the original Lupy factory and used them religiously till the late 80's when their quality went to crap and their prices went through the roof. Their quality hasn't kept pace with most others.

I sat for 30-45 mins last week at a Cabelas comparing several scopes for a new build I am working on...I compared the following scopes...

Nikon Monarch 3: 4-16x50SF ($475)
Zeiss Conquest: 3-12x50 ($1099)
Zeiss Conquest 3-9x40 ($599)
Lupy VX 3: 3.5-10 ($549)
Lupy VX 6: 3-18x50 (1299)

The Zeiss were the clear winners for clarity (especially near the edges) and eye relief...the Monarch was a very close second the guy helping me agreed that clarity wise it was hard to really tell the difference between the Monarch and the Zeiss...the Lupy's real disadvantage was eye relief and how picky it is. The Lupy VX6 was clearly superior to the VX3 and the Monarch and the Zeiss were also clearly much better than the VX3...and still better than the VX6 when eye relief was taken into consideration.

Bottom line...the VX6 doesn't really compete with the Zeiss and doesn't even come close to comparing to my Kahles. Add in bang for buck and the Nikon Monarch blows the Lupy out of the park.

Our experiences and opinions do not match up very well, but to each his own. Calling another man's equipment "crap" and seldom missing an opportunity to continually bash it comes off as harsh.

Nicely phrased !!!

Agree. I have Swift Optics scope on my varmint rifle ( 220 Swift ) I've thought about replacing it for many years. Just can't get myself to take off a scope that continues to provide me with consistent 350 + yd kills.

You beat me to it...:busted:

You take my comments way to personal...I didn't call your equipment "crap" I said my experience with newer Lupy's has proven to ME that they don't build the quality product they use to...I have had two really bad experiences with Lupy in the past couple years with the SAME scope...MY experience. You've had different experiences and that's good! That's why there are several companies and a diverse set of options out there...we all have different preferences.

I dislike Lupy (also not a big Zeiss fan honestly). But that being said I actually own several Lupy's...have 3 that date to around 1970ish on rifles as we speak (a pair of 308's and a 243) and have a VX 3 that's about 3 years old on a 300WM (it had to be warrantied twice in the first year before they finally just replaced it...cost me time and money for a hunt).

Last time I checked I didn't call you out or call your equipment crap, merely spoke my mind and shared MY opinion on the topic of scopes. I am willing to bet we could find a caliber or bullet we didn't agree on too...but it doesn't mean I don't respect your opinion and let you freely share it...

Rant over ;) Carry on...it's not personal and I mean that!