3X9 Zeiss conquest or Luepold VX-R
 

Its been a few years since I 've had to purchase a rifle scope , last time I replaced a VX-III with a Conquest because the Zeiss had a much sharper clearer view. Has Leupold caught back up in this field they have a VX-R with a 30mm tube that is priced a few $ under the conquest. No one sells or stocks the R line in my area can anyone provide first hand information after handling both of these rifle scopes?

If those are the only to choices...Zeiss any day over the VZ III Luppy...but I am not familiar with the "R" you refer too, they (Luppy's) aren't worth the $$ anymore.

I know Luepold has a number of different levels and I know they have good products at each price point; but I kinda feel like you're paying for the box and the "gold ring".


Big companies have big marketing budgets !!!

In the price point that both occupy, Conquest offers more value than any other scope.

Don't overlook the Sightron Big Sky line. They are every bit as good as the two you listed, imo better than the Leupold Vx3/R, and equal to the Conquest line with a little better eye relief. Honestly, any of those are nice scopes and will suit you well.

I agree with these three gentlemen.

Also consider Minox, their US presence is growing and they make an excellent scope at the price you're looking to pay.

So is the Leupold VX-R a level up from the VX-III, not sure how it falls in the product line?

The VX III has been replaced with the VX 3 (very nice 1" tube scope), and the original Conquest has also discontinued and replaced. The discontinued Conquests are on sale everywhere at bargin prices.
The VX R is illuminated and has a 30mm tube, so it is really isn't a good comparison to the 1" non-illuminated Conquest. The glass on both models is good.

the conquest series are heavier and eye relief stinks. go with the leupy vx3 anyday of the week.

4" of eye relief stinks?

Quite the contrary my dear friend. Given those two choices, I'd take the Conquest for most applications.

I'm not sure why in this day and age. Hunters are looking at products from over seas.

In my opinion, the VX-R has a slightly lower quality glass. Compared to the VX-III. It does have a 30mm tube as has been pointed out. I also believe, the illuminated recticle makes up for this slight downgrade.

Good hunting.

I have expereince with many, many different makes and models of shooting scopes ...from as far back as the mid 1960's. In my book the Conquest line is one of the better values out there right now.

Looks like the Conquests are assembled here in the USA. IIRC they are actually assembled on the same Meopta production line as the Swaro Z3 and some Minox scopes.
http://www.exploreproducts.com/zeiss...iflescopes.htm

Ive heard the new Conquest HD5s may be coming from Germany but i haven't seen one yet.

Some parts are imported but Leupold also uses imported parts including glass on cheaper models. About the only thing they don't out source is the tube. The Conquest and Leupold Schott lenses are actually made here in the USA with some imported glass like Ohara.

Considering the OP asked about the Conquest 3x9x40, i dont see how the Conquest eye relief can be labeled as "stinks". Its so close to a similar magnification VXR and VX3 but it remains at a near constant 4" when you increase magnification. The Conquest is also very close in weight and length to the VXR 3x9x40.

The sub $400 deals on the older 3x9x40 Conquests make it one of the best values you can find.

Conquest..

Buy the Conquest.

So are you advocating for the Luppy or the Zeiss, I'm confused...as Luppy's use a great deal of imported parts and while an "American" company...the Conquest is probably as "American" as the cheaply made Luppy...

+1

I just don't want to pay for "their" marketing and "a" box with a famous name on it ?!?!

If there's one thing I've learned over time, it's that the biggest difference between the famous names' scopes and some of the lesser known brands is the size of advertising budgets.

There's a lot of really good scopes out there that are really affordable and as good, if not better than the big guys. You just have to be willing to look.

Lol - I don't remember seeing much for Zeiss advertisements. I think they are just content making the finest mid-range scopes in the world.

+1!!! Exactly!!!!. Doesnt the Conquest scope have some plastic parts??? Now knowing that, which one is cheaply made?

I have had both of these scopes (Leupold VX-R 3-9x40 and Zeiss Conquest 3-9x40). Both are nice scopes but of course there are some differences.

As far as glass goes I would say the Zeiss has a edge but it is not exactly an overwhelmingly one. The glass on the VX-R is what I would say between a VX-2 and VX-3. (Not a VX-II and VX-III stop confusing these models people! I know Leupold kept a similar name but the VX-III and VX-3 are not the same!)

Eye relief they are both sufficient amounts but the Zeiss of course is constant throughout changing the power. The Leupold doesn't change a lot and this makes no difference to me. Some people it does so something to consider.

When comparing the quality some of the comments on here are laughable at best. Leupold makes some very good quality scopes and the VX-R is one of them. I will take the turrets on the VX-R over then hunting turrets that come on the Zeiss any day of the week. I felt the Leupold had better positive clicks with both turrets being very good. The Zeiss turrets were not the worst I have seen but the top was very tight and the side was okay. The Leupold also does not have plastic turret caps either like the Zeiss.

Again both are nice scopes but at the end of the day I would find myself with the Leupold. Reason being is because of how sensitive the eye box is on the Zeiss when it is cranked up to 9 power. If you don't hold your head just at the right position along with the sun, moon, planets and stars lining up in the universe there is a bit of blur in the scope except for the very center of the picture. I found this to be unbearable to me. Some people apparently don't mind this because there are a lot of people that love these scopes. My buddy and I both do not like this scope for this very reason. The Leupold is very forgiving. I have a VX-3 now and will say that I have not been able to notice any difference at low light between the glass on it and the Conquest. I have a feeling that some, not all, that make the negative comments about the higher end Leupolds have never even had one to judge.

Both the model Zeiss Conquest & Luepold are very good scopes. Zeiss conquest scopes produce great quality images for shooting or viewing over a long range. The specialty lies in its design and high power performance. On the other hand, Leupold is very fantastic and high quality rifle. It is famous for their great quality scopes, great customer service and their great lifetime warranty on their products. They are available with unimaginable resolution capacity and accuracy to make targeting easy for the users.

i need a good dial a distance hold right on and shoot for my wife. what you guys suggest

The Leupold VX-2 has worked good, and reliably for me. My choice was the 2-7 CDS, which i purchased for $350 including a free engraved dial for my hunting load. It appear the 3-9 CDS is the same price. Using the 2-7 on a muzzle loader, i somehow managed to smuck a milk jug filled with water over 1/4 mile away, with one shot. Myself, i like them CDS dial, yes i do.

My favorite scope is a VX-3,,, 2.5-8, but after equipping it with the CDS dial, and a wide duplex reticle, it cost considerable more.

Some guyz tell me they love these;

http://www.burrisoptics.com/eliminator.html


Too much technology for me - I want to do my part, so I can take a little credit for a "great" shot ! LOL

Another vote for the Conquest. It is the best value for the money.