Looking for a new powder & load for my 223?
05-11-2005, 08:15 AM
#11
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: La Grange, TX
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RE: Looking for a new powder & load for my 223?
For many years I loaded 8K plus of 223 rounds for matches. That being said you can use lots of powders.
A few thoughts. Varget is usually a good powder and if you work up a load in a sweet spot(audette method that everyone should use anyway) a few tenths one way or another won't hurt. I know my guns still shoot sub MOA with thrown loads of Varget years ago when I still used that powder. And I know that I had variances of up to .3 grains.
WW748. Nice great powder. Extremely temperature sensitive.
AA powders-- vary so much from one lot to another at times that I'll never use em again unless I bought about 100 pounds at a time or more. YMMV. When I got 200 FPS variance and from great accuracy to no accuracy......
Surplus powders like from gibrass.com or patsreloading.com are worth looking at. But surplus IE military stuff can vary 10% in burn rate from one lot to another. So buy a bit at a time. WC 844 and WC846 are both worth looking at anyway.
All Reloader powders have been good. All IMR powders and all Hodgon powders good. All Viht powders good.
Thats about all I can add.
Jeff
A few thoughts. Varget is usually a good powder and if you work up a load in a sweet spot(audette method that everyone should use anyway) a few tenths one way or another won't hurt. I know my guns still shoot sub MOA with thrown loads of Varget years ago when I still used that powder. And I know that I had variances of up to .3 grains.
WW748. Nice great powder. Extremely temperature sensitive.
AA powders-- vary so much from one lot to another at times that I'll never use em again unless I bought about 100 pounds at a time or more. YMMV. When I got 200 FPS variance and from great accuracy to no accuracy......
Surplus powders like from gibrass.com or patsreloading.com are worth looking at. But surplus IE military stuff can vary 10% in burn rate from one lot to another. So buy a bit at a time. WC 844 and WC846 are both worth looking at anyway.
All Reloader powders have been good. All IMR powders and all Hodgon powders good. All Viht powders good.
Thats about all I can add.
Jeff
05-26-2005, 06:09 AM
#16
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Texas - BUT NOW in Madison County, NY
Posts: 6,270
RE: Looking for a new powder & load for my 223?
Try WW 748-it does very well in the .223, and is excellent for the heavier bullet loads as well as the 55-grain ones. H335 is also good in the .223, and also in the 7.62X39mm!
05-30-2005, 11:30 AM
#17
Typical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Hickory NC USA
Posts: 964
RE: Looking for a new powder & load for my 223?
2230-c is a very good powder for bullets under 55 grs and r-15 works very well in 69 gr match bullets in my savage 10 fp.
You can get the 2230-c pretty cheap,around 60 to 70 dollars for an 8 lb jug and meters very well.
For the 55 gr bullets I like IMR 4895 the best
You can get the 2230-c pretty cheap,around 60 to 70 dollars for an 8 lb jug and meters very well.
For the 55 gr bullets I like IMR 4895 the best
05-31-2005, 10:40 PM
#18
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: RIO RANCHO NEW MEXICO USA
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RE: Looking for a new powder & load for my 223?
wolf killer,
I've found varget too be a little slow for the .223, but heres three you might want to give a try. Will list them in the order of prefference.
1. H-Benchmark. Start with 24.0 grains and max suggested load is 26.0 grains. This is a new powder designed for use as a accuracy load in the .222/.223. It is an extruded powder but has the smallest kernels I've ever seen for an extruded powder
2. H-4198. Start at 19.5 and max is 21.5. This is also an extruded powder. Both H-4198 and benchmark are easy to ignite and work fine with standerd small rifle primers.
3.BL-C2. Start at 26.0 and max is 28.0 grains. This is a ball powder and I've found accuracy drops off as the temperature gets colder. If you use this one. you might want to use a magnum small rifle primer. Good luck.
Bob
The load info for all three powders is for the 53 grain bullet and comes from the Hodgdon manual
I've found varget too be a little slow for the .223, but heres three you might want to give a try. Will list them in the order of prefference.
1. H-Benchmark. Start with 24.0 grains and max suggested load is 26.0 grains. This is a new powder designed for use as a accuracy load in the .222/.223. It is an extruded powder but has the smallest kernels I've ever seen for an extruded powder
2. H-4198. Start at 19.5 and max is 21.5. This is also an extruded powder. Both H-4198 and benchmark are easy to ignite and work fine with standerd small rifle primers.
3.BL-C2. Start at 26.0 and max is 28.0 grains. This is a ball powder and I've found accuracy drops off as the temperature gets colder. If you use this one. you might want to use a magnum small rifle primer. Good luck.
Bob
The load info for all three powders is for the 53 grain bullet and comes from the Hodgdon manual
06-23-2005, 11:16 AM
#20
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: RIO RANCHO NEW MEXICO USA
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RE: Looking for a new powder & load for my 223?
WK,
It's not on your list, but if you have your mind made up abaout a ball powder, give Win 748 a try. Hodgdon recently brought out a benchrest powder for the .223 Rem.It is an extruded powder, but the kernels are so small it meters as nice as a ball powder. Plus it is one of the Extreme line of powders, so it won't be sensitive to temperature changes. I've had great results in a .222 Rem and two . 223s. One a bolt action and the other a AR-15. Good luck and God Bless.
Bob..
It's not on your list, but if you have your mind made up abaout a ball powder, give Win 748 a try. Hodgdon recently brought out a benchrest powder for the .223 Rem.It is an extruded powder, but the kernels are so small it meters as nice as a ball powder. Plus it is one of the Extreme line of powders, so it won't be sensitive to temperature changes. I've had great results in a .222 Rem and two . 223s. One a bolt action and the other a AR-15. Good luck and God Bless.
Bob..
