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Tough powder question....
I have got all the stuff I need to reload except powder. I dont really wanna buy a bunch of different kinds. Starting out I am gonna be reloaidng for my 270 and 7mm08. 130's in the 270 and 120's in the 708. I also have a 243, 06 and a 7mm Rmag I plan on reloading some for later on. Is there one powder that will be good for both of those and possibly one or all of the others? I know Im gonna have to buy many different kinds eventually but dont wanna buy 10 different kinds now. I was kinda leaning towards RE-22 as Sierra Manual seems to like it for the 7-08. Thanks in advance.
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RE: Tough powder question....
I have had good results with WW760 in .250 Savage, .243 Win, 6MM Rem., 6.5X55 Swedish, .270 Win., 7X57 Mauser, 30-06 Springfield, and 8X57 Mauser.
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I had a small amount of H760 gave to me..done pretty good in the 130 NP's out of the 270 groupwise....but have to start from scratch now thats its gone. Thanks for the suggestion. That sounds like a good all around choice if you had good results with that many calibers.
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a good general rule of thumb is.....most of the 30-06 cased guns (25-06, 270, 280, 30-06) all can get managable groups with IMR 4350 and IMR 4831. More often than not you will find a charge with one of these two powders that will give you decent hunting loads. It may not be your best or fastest powder but will be decent.
oh and both of those will work for the 7mm rem mag too!! |
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H4895 will do all the calibers you listed, except i dont know about the 7 mag for the 7 mag id go with H1000 or H4350. good luck atleast this way you would cover all your powder needs with 2 powders instead of a whole bunch of different kinds, I know the H4895 doesnt always have the highest velocity listed which alot choose powder by the highest velocity. I recommend H4895 because it seems to be one of the most accuracy friendly powders for alot calibers.
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I'd second the IMR 4350. You can load it in about anything. However, if you do a little experimenting, more than likely, your optimum loads will be from different powder types. There is no 1 magic powder. I load with two other friends and it helps on the cost of having a variety of powders to experiment with.
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Doe, your going to have at least buy two powders. Try IMR4350 or H4831sc for the 06 cases and Rem mag, and Varget or IMR4064 for the 308 cases.
If they were all long action, I say stick with the 4350 for them all. But short actions seem to do best with faster powder. |
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H4831 will work perfectly with a 270 and a 7 rem mag as well as the 243.
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Thanks guys. It wont bother me at all to only buy 2...I just wasnt wanting to have to buy 5 or 6. I kinda figured one powder for everything may have been a stretch. Velocity isnt the most important thing to me as 98% of my shots are within 100 yards..most being within 50. Im glad I asked this because the 2 manuals I seen both seemd pretty high on that Re-22.
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BC is there any difference between H4831 and H4381sc except for metering?
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I found a velocity difference once interchanging. It was only like 50-100fps. But I sometimes see that with different lots of Reloader 25. So I wouldn't worry about.
The story goes, I loaded some 270win when I first started loading. Well I put them away and got back out 8 years later and forgot about them. Since that time, I switched to SC. So I could compare. |
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IMR 4064 and 4895 works in just about everything accurately, though with the 30-06 class case capacity you won't get the maximum amount of velocity with these powders.
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W748 is good for the .308 based cases
RL15 is good for .308 based cases and .3006 based cases. H4350 is good for magnum rifles IMR4350 is good for all. So I'd have to say the most versital would be IMR4350 |
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I would have to agree. Some people would even argue for Unique; but if I had to use one powder for everything, my only rifles that would be really unhappy with IMR 4350 would be the .223's.
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Here is another vote for the IMR 4350 Powder. Seems to work good in everything.
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No difference in the powder! SC stands for short cut,they made it that wasy so it would meter a liittle better.One might try varget as well. vangunsmith
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It all boils down to how fast and accurate you want all these rifles to be. There is no perfect powder period. You need to start with at least 3 powders. 4350. 4831 and 4064. You will not believe the difference from rifle to rifle....and OBTW some like H and some like IMR. Good luck and regards, Rick.
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I would buy three powders in your case. A container of Rel 15, Varget, IMR 4350. If I had to pick just one and your main gun was the 270, and all you wanted was on powder to start, IMR 4350 would be good, as it would give satisfactory results with your 7.08 and your 30-06 too. (H4831, IMR4831, H1000, Rel 22, Rel 19 will give better external ballistics for your 270, but not neccesarily better accuracy. Buy as many as you can afford and load as many as you can. It just gets better and better.).
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When selecting powders I usually follow this method. I check all of my load data sources and compile a list of the three fastest powders from each source. Then I narrow down the list by picking the 2 that are listed the most. I also pay particular attention to the accuracy loads listed in the Nosler and Sierra manuals. For the guns you listed, I4350, I4064, W748, H380 will all give you workable loads. I currently load for 223, 257 Rob, 6.5x55, 307, 30-06, 35 Whelen and my most recent addition a 270WSM so I'm forced to buy some new manuals. I have loads worked up for all with the exception of the 223 with every powder listed. 748 should work well for the 7mm08 and the 243. I4350 for the 270, 06 and 7mag.
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Thanks guys..I never dreamed i would get this much feedback. This is all good stuff!
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D.D.,
RL22 is a great powder for the .270, '06, and 7mm Rem Mag, particularly with the heavier bullets. For the .308 based cases such as the .243 and 7mm-08, I would go with a slightly faster 4350 burn rate powder due to smaller case capacity. Don |
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Might as well weigh in with everyone else.
For the cases you have, I would start with H4831, and IMR4350. Wouldn't be a real big deal if you went with H4350 instead of IMR. Beyond that, again for the cases you have listed, H1000 and IMR4064 would be the next powders to add. The H1000 worked better for me in the 7 Rem Mag, and the 4064 has worked well in several calibers as a very consistent powder - 30.06, 7x57, 7-08. By consistent, I mean the Standard deviation of the velocity was very small. 4064 was never the fastest, but consistency of the powder is very impressive. JMHO. You'll be able to shoot all summer with IMR4350 and H4831. |
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This is an admirable goal.....many of us have tried that logic and as good as it is.....it just never works out that way.....
I'd recommend that you pick the cartridge you shoot the most and get the powder best suited to that one.....then add another powder later when you can. |
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