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JadeDragon 03-04-2005 12:46 AM

.204 Ruger
 
I am wanting to get a rifle in the .204 Ruger, but the cheapest I could find so far is almost 60 cents per round.

As I would be using this for non-comp target shooting, that's a bit high.

So my question is, what can I expect to pay in reloading .204, and/or where are good places to find low priced .204 Ruger ammo??

Thank you for your help.

HighDesertWolf 03-04-2005 02:31 AM

RE: .204 Ruger
 
204 costs about the same as 223 to reload, for a middle of the road costing reloads say using H4895 powder and sierra game kings comes out to 22 cents a shot not including the cost of the brass assuming you are loading once fired casings, if you buy new brass then add another 12 cents per shot which would put you up to 34 cents per shot. good luck

ColoradoElk 03-04-2005 07:23 AM

RE: .204 Ruger
 
Hi Jade:

My .204 ruger loads come in at $.22 each. The problem, at least for the time being, is the least expensive bullet is the 32gr Hornady vmax at about $.12 each, 50%+ of the cost. If Rem or Win comes out with bulk bullets, I could get the cost down to about $.14 each. These costs will come down a few cents as I was paying a fortune for once-fired cases. Midway now has 500 case packages of unfired win brass for about $65.

Good luck

CE

JadeDragon 03-04-2005 11:37 AM

RE: .204 Ruger
 
So if I hold off buying the gun untill the end of summer or early fall, would that allow time for the costs to drop?

I'm also considering the same rifle in .223, are the eloading costs similer?

ColoradoElk 03-04-2005 12:33 PM

RE: .204 Ruger
 
Hi Jade:

I don't know if anyone will actually produce a $.05 bullet for the .204 (like the Rem 55 gr PSP, $94.99/2000). I checked the price, and these bullets went up $15/2000 since I bought them last, at Midway.

The advantage of the .223 is that you can purchase once fired Lake City cases for something like $30/1000. If you can get along with once-fired cases, the .204 will always cost considerably more than the .223 to reload.

I like the .204, but there isn't much performance difference between them. The .223 is probably going to be better for your situation.

CE

JadeDragon 03-04-2005 01:24 PM

RE: .204 Ruger
 
Okay, thanks a lot CE.

Vapodog 03-04-2005 03:36 PM

RE: .204 Ruger
 
You need to ask if the .204 really offers you something the .223 don't....

bigcountry 03-04-2005 08:30 PM

RE: .204 Ruger
 
I tried to talk my brother out of a 204, but was really impressed by its perfromance 200 yards and above. You got speed, you got amazing flatness. And claims about 223 barrel life. I ain't buyin that one though. I was really sceptical about the flatness until I shot it.

HighDesertWolf 03-04-2005 10:53 PM

RE: .204 Ruger
 
id dont care for the 204 much and would deffinately choose the 223 over it anyday, as for being flatter shooting yeah it is flatter shooting then a .223. but any skilled shooter who knows how to use hold over techniques can easily make up the difference in trajectories.

JadeDragon 03-04-2005 11:49 PM

RE: .204 Ruger
 
The price of shootign pretty much decided for me, At this point I'll probably go with the .223 Rem. However, by the end of spring things may have changed, so we will see.

My shooting budget has to work around a shotgun in the near future, so the new rifle is on hold untill after that.

bigcountry 03-05-2005 05:30 AM

RE: .204 Ruger
 
HDW, did it not shoot well for you? Or you just don't like it for other reasons. Hold over techniques are ok. But when firing at something in a hurry, its a poor tradeoff for flattness IMO. I love the .223 but love new toys with a new twist also.

JadeDragon 03-05-2005 09:18 PM

RE: .204 Ruger
 
Agreed, something new and different then most would be nice.


But as it stands, the .223 looks like it will be the choice.

HighDesertWolf 03-06-2005 02:42 AM

RE: .204 Ruger
 

ORIGINAL: bigcountry

HDW, did it not shoot well for you? Or you just don't like it for other reasons. Hold over techniques are ok. But when firing at something in a hurry, its a poor tradeoff for flattness IMO. I love the .223 but love new toys with a new twist also.

the rifle i shot was a buddies kimber the accuracy was great, I dont like it for other reasons. for example the big hype is that its shoots over 4000 fps big whoopty doo i can think of 3 other cartridges right off the top of my head that are capable of that same velocity with heavier bullets and higher ballistic coefficients that would be just as flat shooting and in most cases flatter shooting to longer distances. to me the 204 is just another salesman cartridge like the WSM's and WSSM's, you know something new to boost sales..... also i havent seen any real advantages of the 204 that would make me choose it over my favored 22-250.

bigcountry 03-06-2005 03:00 PM

RE: .204 Ruger
 

it over my favored 22-250
Supposely barrel life. I kinda do believe it. Thats the selling point is using a lighter bullet with higher BC than a heavier one in the 22-250. Which I proved to myself.

Everybody likes to use the word hype. I am not sure why people don't like new offerings. I figured they would be glad to have choices. Choices are good.

I say bring on more products.

I was reading a while back some articles in old Rifle mags when the 300win mag came out. The word hype was there in several postings. People all upset saying a 30-06 is much better. Then ammo price.

If everyone had that attitude of always looking back, we would never advance in anything in america.

Its like plasma TVs. People complain about the price and saying theres better out there. Current draw, whatever. But with any new technology, you have to start somewhere. The price will go down, the performance will improve, the heat and current draw will be at a more managable rates. Usually high end buyers are the ones that pay for development, so later you only pay for components.

Same with WSM's.

HighDesertWolf 03-07-2005 01:49 AM

RE: .204 Ruger
 

ORIGINAL: bigcountry


it over my favored 22-250
Supposely barrel life. I kinda do believe it. Thats the selling point is using a lighter bullet with higher BC than a heavier one in the 22-250. Which I proved to myself.

Everybody likes to use the word hype. I am not sure why people don't like new offerings. I figured they would be glad to have choices. Choices are good.

I say bring on more products.

I was reading a while back some articles in old Rifle mags when the 300win mag came out. The word hype was there in several postings. People all upset saying a 30-06 is much better. Then ammo price.

If everyone had that attitude of always looking back, we would never advance in anything in america.

Its like plasma TVs. People complain about the price and saying theres better out there. Current draw, whatever. But with any new technology, you have to start somewhere. The price will go down, the performance will improve, the heat and current draw will be at a more managable rates. Usually high end buyers are the ones that pay for development, so later you only pay for components.

Same with WSM's.

I have to agree with you, you made a very valid point. maybe after its been around for awhile and i get more experience with it my attitude will change. But like ive said before in other posts i am very discriminant when it comes to new stuff. but i dont really see the 204 having less effect on barrel wear compared to the 22-250 being that they both share similar friction resistance in the barrel along with similar velocities so that being said asfar as barrel wear goes i feel they will be about the same.

bigcountry 03-07-2005 07:34 AM

RE: .204 Ruger
 

i get more experience with it my attitude will change.
Yea, thats my big thing too. I want to see if this barrel life thing pans out. They say it should last like a .223. Hard for me to believe a 40gr bullet with same BC as a 55gr .224" bullet going at 4000fps is going to last 3500rounds.

I admit, I got one for my brother, but have went to buy one for myself, then backed out.


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