180 or 200 gr 300WSM
 

I am going on a plains game safari for a few of the larger animals ie., Hartman's zebra, Eland,Kudu,Gemsbok an wish to take my 300 WSM Ultra Shadow mdl 70. Any suggestions which bullet and wght to reload for it?

RE: 180 or 200 gr 300WSM
 

I find the 300WSM really shines with 180gr bullets. And my RUM does excelletn with 200gr. I have yet to go to africa so can't say. But I know a bunch of my buddies who have taken all that mentioned with 165gr Bullistic tips in a 300 Win Mag. If he does it with a BT, I am sure a 180gr accurbond or something on those lines will be fine.

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Jack O'Conner's wife Eleanor took her elephant with a 180 grain bullet out to a .30-06. She brained him, I can't imagine needing more penetration, and the 200 grainer just slows down your velocity, which is why you wanted a magnum in the first place.

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I would feel good with a 165 grain barnes or a 180 in allmost any "good" bullet!

RE: 180 or 200 gr 300WSM
 

I would go with the 180 grain scirroco and be done with it;)

RE: 180 or 200 gr 300WSM
 

I would use a 180 gr. Barnes X, Trophy Bonded Bear Claw, or Swift A-Frame. Your investing in a once in a lifetime hunt; use the best bullets avaliable. Good luck on your hunt!!

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I would load up a Barnes 180gr tripple shock X bullet, the 180gr XLCs will shoot a .6" group out of my Ruger 77 Mk II 300 WSM at about 3000 fps.

Good luck on your hunt.

RE: 180 or 200 gr 300WSM
 

Good advice from the gents above. Any of the premium bullets noted above should work fine.
You may want to consult some loading manuals and compare terminal ballistics between the 180 and 200-grain bullets. All the premium bullets provide good penetration and weight retention, etc. so it comes down to shot placement and down range energy at point of impact.

Never having hunted Africa, I don't know what typical ranges are that game is taken at, but I'd look at 100 and 200 yards and compare the foot-pounds of energy.
Good luck!

RE: 180 or 200 gr 300WSM
 

Go with 180 gr in a premium bullet. I used a 180 gr fail safe on a buffalo a year ago in Wyoming. One shot just behind the front shoulder & the bull went down. He stood up and started to wobbel, then "plop". I killed a mountain grizzly a few years ago with a bigger gun. I would probably feel ok using a 300WSM & the 180gr fail safe, but bigger is better when the animal can eat you.

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I would use a 180 "QUALITY" bullet if I was going on a hunt like that...;)

RE: 180 or 200 gr 300WSM
 

I'd go with the 180.

IMO even though the 180 is a good .30 caliber bullet, the 165gr bullet is best for .30 calibers. Speed of a 150 and knockdown power of a 180.

RE: 180 or 200 gr 300WSM
 

Many 30 caliber nuts (of which I certainly am) simply think that if 180grains is good, 200 must be better. In actuality most 30cals will yield better penetration with quality 180s than they do with 200s. Most of them simply don't develope enough velocity to drive a 200 fast enough to perform too its potential. Some of the super 30s will drive 200s plenty fast, but realistically there aren't as many quality 200s out there as there are 180s and the 180s will completely penetrate elk sized game when fired at such velocity so what more is needed?

Stick with TSX, FailSafes etc or at least the newer "bonded" type pills like AccuBonds, Trophy Bondeds etc and you wont have a minutes problem from that 300WSM (or anyother 30cal for that matter),
RA

RE: 180 or 200 gr 300WSM
 

well I have 2 boxes of Nosler Partion 180 gr .308 leftover from my 30-06 that I bought to load up for a moose hunt in BC 15 years ago where I literally dropped a 1200# bull in his tracks with them. Think I'll load some up in my 300WSM over a stout powder charge to test for accuracy at 3000fps.
As shots will be under 200 yds I may take my 45-70 with 405 gr bullets along zipping along at 1900fps just for the fun of it.
The biggest animal in weight I plan to hunt is a zebra and I can't imagine one going too far with either of these calibers bullets busting thru his shoulders.

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I will assume you're a handloader. There aren't any factory loaded cases with a 200 gr bullet. I'm sure you're using a factory rifle that has a short action. If you load the 200 gr. you will be deep into the case and use up a lot of powder space. I think you will do much better with a controlled expansion 180 gr. or even go with a Barnes or Fail Safe in 165 gr. and you will have all the penetration and knock down that you need. With the Barnes or Fail Safe on broadside shots you will probably get complete pass thru's. So if you want pass thru's go with the above mentioned. If you want to dump all the energy look to one of the bonded core types in a 180 gr. If you have the money to go to Africa I'm sure you're an accomplished rifleman and will make good shot so the game won't know if they were shot with an X bullet or a partition. Down is down in the hunting world. Good luck and good hunting.

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"have enough money to go to Africa" :) it costs more to go to Montana buy an elk lisc. and hunt elk for a week than it costs to fly to Namibia,hunt 8 days,pay trophy fees,and fly home again.
I know I did it an killed a nice 6x6 a couple years ago. I only wish I could afford to do it again without doing the drop camp thing.