7mmstw v. 7mm ultrmag
#11
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: STATEN ISLAND NEW YORK USA
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RE: 7mmstw v. 7mm ultrmag
ELKADDICT,
I solved the problem of which one to choose, I bought both of them( the ULTRA MAG in SS & STW in STAINLESS HUNTER), problably from the same guy you did. At those prices I had to, I shot the 7MM ULTRA MAG, great groups I still have to mount the scope on the STW im sure it will shoot just as good.
GOOD LUCK
I solved the problem of which one to choose, I bought both of them( the ULTRA MAG in SS & STW in STAINLESS HUNTER), problably from the same guy you did. At those prices I had to, I shot the 7MM ULTRA MAG, great groups I still have to mount the scope on the STW im sure it will shoot just as good.
GOOD LUCK
#12
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Jun 2003
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RE: 7mmstw v. 7mm ultrmag
You are going to love your new 7mm-STW.
My pet load is,
79-Grains IMR-7828,
Federal 215-magnum primers,
140-grain Nosler Partition bullet.
I have used other powders & bullets, all were accurate. I prefer the 140-grain bullet for all of my deer & antelope hunting.
I have used this same load with great results on elk. I prefer my 300-win mag loaded with 200-grain partitions for my "go-to" elk rifle.
My pet load is,
79-Grains IMR-7828,
Federal 215-magnum primers,
140-grain Nosler Partition bullet.
I have used other powders & bullets, all were accurate. I prefer the 140-grain bullet for all of my deer & antelope hunting.
I have used this same load with great results on elk. I prefer my 300-win mag loaded with 200-grain partitions for my "go-to" elk rifle.
#13
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RE: 7mmstw v. 7mm ultrmag
Wolf, my smith also likes that load but with a 139gr Hornady. What I don't get about the STW, is the variations between manuals. I mean you 4gr I think over max in the Nosler manual, but right at max in the barnes manual. (its usually the other way around). According to IMR, its under max. Either Nosler really has this caliber underloaded or Barnes has it way overloaded. I mean they are kicking a 140gr bullet over 3400fps.
#15
RE: 7mmstw v. 7mm ultrmag
ORIGINAL: stubblejumper
My own 7mmstw's deliver 3480fps and 3520fps with 140gr bullets and imr7828.
I mean they are kicking a 140gr bullet over 3400fps.
#16
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: fort mcmurray alberta canada
Posts: 5,667
RE: 7mmstw v. 7mm ultrmag
Both rifles have 26" barrels,one a kreiger the other a schneider.Neither shows pressure signs and case life is very good.Barrel life is reduced as you load to the max but this is true with any cartridge.Remington grossly underloads their factory ammunition for this cartridge.
#17
RE: 7mmstw v. 7mm ultrmag
When I had my 7MMSTW I loaded the 140 grain Partition to about 3100 fps. It took down every animal I shot with one shot. When I used the big casings it was so I didn't have to crowd the limits. I loaded my 30 calibers with 180 grain bullets. What would have been a hot load for my 30-06 was a mild load in my 300 Win Mag. I had trouble at close range with the older Ballistic tips in my 7MM Rem Mags. They were fragil at close range. I understand thet Nosler beefed them up a bit since then. I use them a lot in the 308 and 30-06. Also in the 280.
#18
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RE: 7mmstw v. 7mm ultrmag
James, thats my plan to load around 3100fps or even less. Stubble have you ever stopped and thought all your loads are at max or well around 100 to 200fps faster than the average RUM or STW accuracy loads. Maybe its the canadian weather.
#19
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: fort mcmurray alberta canada
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RE: 7mmstw v. 7mm ultrmag
My two 7mmstw's are producing 1/2" three shot groups consistantly while driving the 140gr ballistic tips at around 3500fps so I couldn't care less about so called accuracy loads listed in manuals.It is possible that using blueprinted actions,match grade barrels and pillar bedding in mcmillan stocks are a contributing factor to obtaining good accuracy with maximum loads.It could also be that I experiment with handloads until I obtain the highest velocity possible while maintaining good accuracy and case life while exibiting no pressure signs.I do not see the point of downloading cartridges.If I wanted 3200fps out of 140gr bullets I would be using 7mmremmags instead of the stw's.I understand that using maximum loads decreases barrel life but when a barrel starts to go ,I just have another one installed.
#20
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RE: 7mmstw v. 7mm ultrmag
I hear ya on it doesn't make sense for downloading. But I got a good deal on a STW, but I don't need higher velocity, and really only want 3100fps. I want to have this gun for a long time. I do shoot for the stars with my custom 300RUM, and have had the barrel replaced once due to shooting out the old one. But this gun is my long range toy, and don't mind changing barrels.