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Pace Maker 03-17-2004 06:53 PM

30.06 moose load any suggestions?
 
Hello! I have a moose hunt in Newfoundland coming up in September. I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions on a load. The outfitter says shots in the 75-200 yard range are most common. Thanks for any replies..........John

Vapodog 03-18-2004 05:08 AM

RE: 30.06 moose load any suggestions?
 
I'd use the Nosler accubond 200 grain or the 200 grain Swift a-frame.

You should come close to 2800'/sec working up a load with RL22 or IMR7828 in a 22" barrel.

akbound 03-18-2004 05:45 AM

RE: 30.06 moose load any suggestions?
 
Hi Pace Maker,

You'd have trouble finding better bullets than Vapodog suggested. If you should run into difficulty finding either of those 200 grain Nosler Partitions will do anything on Moose, needing done. Work the load that shoots best in your particular rifle.....but don't compromise on the bullet.

Good luck on your hunt.

Dave

rkbo 03-18-2004 05:50 AM

RE: 30.06 moose load any suggestions?
 
I will add just this: It depends on your rifle. That is, if you have a rem. semi auto it will jam sometimes on bullets bigger than 190gr or smaller than 150gr.

Pace Maker 03-18-2004 05:59 AM

RE: 30.06 moose load any suggestions?
 
I'm sorry.........I left out what kind of .06 it was. It's a model 700 bolt. Thanks for the replies, looking forward to this hunt and figured if I could get any info on a load it'd help. I figured this was the place to ask.....John

noway 03-18-2004 10:18 AM

RE: 30.06 moose load any suggestions?
 
180 Barnes Triple Shock would be a great bullet for moose. People have had great luck with accuracy with them as well.
The previous bullets mentioned are all excellent choices as well.

Think penetration! On an animal that big at those yardages, accuracy is not your main concern.

Rick Teal 03-18-2004 10:47 AM

RE: 30.06 moose load any suggestions?
 
My last two bulls (both in the 1,200 lb range) were killed with 180 grain ballistic tips on top of 48.5 grains of IMR 4320. Both were quick/clean kills. The longest shot was about 70 yds.

bigcountry 03-18-2004 11:58 AM

RE: 30.06 moose load any suggestions?
 
180gr Nosler Partition or any barnes would be the trick for moose. You still want that thing to be plenty flat. 180gr would be my limit.

eldeguello 03-18-2004 01:58 PM

RE: 30.06 moose load any suggestions?
 

ORIGINAL: Vapodog
I'd use the Nosler accubond 200 grain or the 200 grain Swift a-frame.
You should come close to 2800'/sec working up a load with RL22 or IMR7828 in a 22" barrel.
I agree 100% with this choice!!

A 200-grain @ 2800 is treading right on the heels of the .300 Win. mag.!!

bigcountry 03-18-2004 02:00 PM

RE: 30.06 moose load any suggestions?
 
Ok, guys, I have killed moose with 180gr, and 165gr. I didn't get a pass thru with either and both was over 200 yards. Why do I need a 200gr bullet out of a 30-06?

Vapodog 03-19-2004 03:32 AM

RE: 30.06 moose load any suggestions?
 

Ok, guys, I have killed moose with 180gr, and 165gr. I didn't get a pass thru with either and both was over 200 yards. Why do I need a 200gr bullet out of a 30-06?
You don't!!!!!..............you could hunt moose with a .243 too.....

In all likelyhood the 200 grain bullet may not exit a moose as well but I've seen it exit a gemsbok which isn't a whole lot different in size and and to me an exit hole makes it a lot easier to track a (even fatally) wounded animal. Certainly it may penetrate deeper than the lighter bullets and that's a good thing in my opinion.

A lot of moose have been killed with a 170 grain slug from a .30-30 but that was the best they had then.......we have some mighty fine bullets available to us today in bonding technology and the .30-06 is a clear step up from a .30-30.....I just prefer to use the best I can get as a handloader and to me.....for moose...that's a premium 200 grain bullet.

A core-lokt 180 will also do the job but when I invest a pile of cash in a big game hunt I'll use the best stuff I can shoot.....and if my gun of choice is a .30-06 (which is certainly adequate) I'll opt for the heavier bullets.....is there a big difference?...NO!...but there IS a difference and I want it as my personal choice.

akbound 03-19-2004 06:35 AM

RE: 30.06 moose load any suggestions?
 
Hi bigcountry,

I know this didn't apply for the original questioner but where I hunted Moose there was also a better than fair chance of running into either an interior grizzly or a coastal brownie. I just felt much better with the extra bullet weight. (In a little 760 carbine I used as a "truck gun" I frequently carried 220 grain Nosler Partitions. I knew I would be shooting at 250 yards or less, usually much less.)

If someone had asked me what factory load only to use for .30-06 then I'd have pointed them towards either Federal's high energy with 180 grain premium bullets or any other premium factory bullet load of 180 grain. But because this was the handloading forum I figured they may as well avail themselves of the best possible choices. (Especially considering he had specifically stated the ranges would not be terribly long.)

When used in a .300 Magnum a good premium bullet of 200 grains or more bump up performance to nearly on par with the .338's. When used in a .30-06 a good 200 grain load bump up performance to a heavy .300 magnum in performance. That is not carved in stone.....but is my opinion only!

To answer your question directly....there is nothing wrong with using a lighter bullet weight if you like when hunting Moose with a .30-06. I've personally known a hunter that killed an Alaskan moose with a .35 Remington and a 200 grain CoreLokt and another hunter kill another bull with a .50 caliber patched round ball in front of 90 grains of FFg. Neither of those loads are considered "big or impressive"......but the moose died none the less. The loads you used in .30-06 are considerably more than either of those. (And I know truck loads of Moose hunters in Alaska that use a .30-06 with a 180 grain bullet. And do it successfully.) So you'd get no argument from me. I personally happen to like the premium 200 grain bullets better.......that's all!

Dave

bigcountry 03-19-2004 11:42 AM

RE: 30.06 moose load any suggestions?
 

grain slug from a .30-30 but that was the best they had then.......we have some mighty fine bullets available to us today in bonding technology and the .30-06 is a clear step up from a .30-30.....I just prefer to use the best I can get as a handloader and to me.....for moose...that's a premium 200 grain bullet.
I guess what I am getting at is most moose hunting I have seen is some good long range shots. I would rather have the flattness of a 180gr or even 165gr premium than the extra penetration of the 200gr when it comes to a 30-06.

For my 300RUM, I won't mind a 200gr projection.

Vapodog 03-19-2004 07:37 PM

RE: 30.06 moose load any suggestions?
 
hey....shoot what ever you want!~!!!!

eldeguello 03-21-2004 06:59 PM

RE: 30.06 moose load any suggestions?
 
moose...that's a premium 200 grain bullet.

I guess what I am getting at is most moose hunting I have seen is some good long range shots. I would rather have the flattness of a 180gr or even 165gr premium than the extra penetration of the 200gr when it comes to a 30-06.
If you shoot a Nosler 200-grain Accubond at a MV from 2700 FPS up to as much as 2800 FPS, (which some claim is possible from an '06), it will provide a BETTER long range load than either a 165 or 180 grain load! It retains velocity better, overtaking and eventually passing the 165 and 180 in retained speed, and is just as flat shooting, if not moreso, at ranges beyond 300 yards.

stubblejumper 03-21-2004 07:10 PM

RE: 30.06 moose load any suggestions?
 
I use 180gr bullets out of my 300 ultramag for both elk and moose and it does a great job.If you think that you need a heavier bullet,you should consider one of the .338's.

eldeguello 03-21-2004 07:21 PM

RE: 30.06 moose load any suggestions?
 

ORIGINAL: stubblejumper

I use 180gr bullets out of my 300 ultramag for both elk and moose and it does a great job.If you think that you need a heavier bullet,you should consider one of the .338's.
You're right, of course. There's little difference between the 180 and the 200 - about as much as a 177-caliber air-rifle pellet!:D

bigcountry 03-22-2004 08:13 AM

RE: 30.06 moose load any suggestions?
 
Eld, you were saying it would overtake the flatness with a 200gr. Not always. Really depends on the BC.

Vapo, This is a forum where members share thier expenience and opinions. I think everyone knows already to "shoot whatever you want". Not sure what your getting at.

Stubble totally agree.

eldeguello 03-25-2004 08:25 PM

RE: 30.06 moose load any suggestions?
 

Eld, you were saying it would overtake the flatness with a 200gr. Not always. Really depends on the BC.
Quite so! The new Nosler Accubond, which I would choose for this application, has a B.C. of .588! And it is plenty tough enough for any large North American game. Reports from the hunting field last fall indicate that it penetrates even better than the Nosler Partition bullets of like weight......

handloader1 03-25-2004 10:54 PM

RE: 30.06 moose load any suggestions?
 
I use a 200 gr. Barnes XFB in my 30-06 Sprg. @ 2600 f/s as a back-up rifle for elk season, or if I am set up at a tank. At 300 yds. I have 2035 ft/lb which I feel is sufficient for elk. At 225 yds. it should be sufficient for moose. Good luck.

eldeguello 03-26-2004 05:30 AM

RE: 30.06 moose load any suggestions?
 

ORIGINAL: handloader1

I use a 200 gr. Barnes XFB in my 30-06 Sprg. @ 2600 f/s as a back-up rifle for elk season, or if I am set up at a tank. At 300 yds. I have 2035 ft/lb which I feel is sufficient for elk. At 225 yds. it should be sufficient for moose. Good luck.
Excellent load!!

handloader1 03-26-2004 10:52 PM

RE: 30.06 moose load any suggestions?
 
Eldeguello:

If I draw a Elk tag this year, I hope I get a chance to use it. Good luck.

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Gundigest 04-01-2004 10:01 AM

RE: 30.06 moose load any suggestions?
 
I would use my hand loads which are 180gr XLC (coated Barnes X bullets) at about 2900 fps. The X bullet expands to nearly twice its diameter and retains virtually 100% of its weight. This bullet would have no problem killing a moose.

Carpmaster 04-06-2004 09:51 AM

RE: 30.06 moose load any suggestions?
 
200 grain partition.

bigcountry 04-06-2004 11:41 AM

RE: 30.06 moose load any suggestions?
 
Pace, what outfitter you going with up there? I went with Viking trail for two years. Never did get a big bull. First year hunted the full 6 days. Only saw 5 moose. Took a cow last day. A old cow at that. Tasted rough. Had to crock pot every bite.

Second year, hunted 5 days, and took a 4 pt. young bull. He at least tasted good.

Still waiting for a decent sized moose.

I have had great luck with 180gr Triple Shock's. Thats my next bullet I will be taking if I go this year with my 308.

Take a range finder. Those guides ain't too good on range and its so decieving up there. One year, I took 500 yard shots cause the quide said it was 300. I knew better. After ranging, I looked at him, and told him he was full of it. Average shot in camp was 200 yards. Quite itimidating with that wind up there.


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