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Trebark 01-16-2004 04:24 PM

Buying powder at Bass Pro
 
When buying powder at the Bass Pro Shops near me, they have a policy of asking for your drivers license, then photo-copying it, and keeping it "on file", according to them, for the ATF. They even do this when buying Pyrodex. Has anyone else heard of this procedure elsewhere, and what do you think of it?
Charlie

Mark whiz 01-16-2004 04:38 PM

RE: Buying powder at Bass Pro
 
I've yet to have anyone "card" me when buying powder, primers, or ammo here in FLA. The Gray hair answers the "old enough" question and apparently there is no State or Federal Law that requires taking my data like that. It is QUITE possible that Maryland might have a STATE law requiring the recording of your info, but it ain't a Federal requirement. If it IS, there are a LOT of places down here that are gonna find their rearend's in a sling one day [:o] .

Trebark 01-16-2004 04:47 PM

RE: Buying powder at Bass Pro
 
Mark,
I don't think it was an age thing, unless there are a lot of bald kids running around buying powder! This wasn't when I was paying for it, this was just to have it handed to me from the safe behind the gun counter. I've bought Pyrodex here in MD at several places, never needing to be kept "on file", so I don't think it was a MD law. I just got into reloading, and I'll be going there to get some H4350 powder this week, so I'll ask a few more questions about the policy.
Charlie

MOTurkeyTamer 01-16-2004 06:09 PM

RE: Buying powder at Bass Pro
 
I buy the biggest share of my powder at gun shows. No problem there. Can't say as I've ever heard of anything like that.

icthruu 01-16-2004 07:48 PM

RE: Buying powder at Bass Pro
 
I have been asked what I was going to use it for at the checkout before, but never had to show an ID, I would guess that the store itself has that policy in order to cover its rearend, or perhaps its a state or local rule. Sure isn't in MI.

handloader1 01-16-2004 10:47 PM

RE: Buying powder at Bass Pro
 
I have purchased powder from www.powdervalleyinc.com , and they required my ID, but that was out of state. Good luck.

Trebark 01-17-2004 08:28 AM

RE: Buying powder at Bass Pro
 
Well, I just got back from Bass Pro, and here's what I was told. Apparently, it is an Anne Arundel Co. law, and the info is sent to the fire marshall's office, not the ATF. A buddy of mine works in the AA Co fire marshall's office, so I'll ask him what he knows about it. According to the guy at BPS, they (fire marshall) just want to keep track of the "explosives" sold, and what type. Wonder if they hang out at the gas station and write it down, every time you fill your tank?[&:][>:]
Charlie

thndrchiken 01-17-2004 11:18 AM

RE: Buying powder at Bass Pro
 
That's BS, smokeless powder is classified as a propellant, not an explosive. Black powder and its substitutes are classified as explosives. Here in the PRNJ you don't need to show id to buy primers but for powder it goes in the log book, no copies of the license is made. BTW that is a violation of the Privacy Act of 1974. The only info they need is your name and address.

Trebark 01-17-2004 11:49 AM

RE: Buying powder at Bass Pro
 
Yeah, I hear you TC. I felt like explaining the propellent vs explosive issue, but the Bass Pro guy didn't make the law, they just have to follow it I guess. I'll debate this with my friend from the FM office, and see what he has to say. Any more opinions are welcomed, as I will discuss them with him as well. I may contact the NRA, and see what they say too.
Thanks,
Charlie

eldeguello 01-17-2004 01:48 PM

RE: Buying powder at Bass Pro
 
Absolutely NOT!! The Police State of New York has a State law, where they take your name, rank, serial number, address, date of birth, etc. etc., and put it in a spiral notebook, BUT that's the Police State of NY doing that, there is NO FED. REQUIREMENT FOR SUCH NONSENSE (YET!!) I now buy powder in Waynesboro, PA, and in Hancock MD, and NEITHER STATE has such a requirement, as far as the people from whom I buy my powder know! Must just be a Bass Pro-Shop idea!! Buy your powder from someone else!!

Vapodog 01-18-2004 08:57 AM

RE: Buying powder at Bass Pro
 

BTW that is a violation of the Privacy Act of 1974
I believe the privacy act of 1974 has to do with your rights when a government agency asks you for your social security number....nothing more!!!

Eldeguello has pegged this one.....buy your powder elsewhere else.

thndrchiken 01-18-2004 11:15 AM

RE: Buying powder at Bass Pro
 
Actually the privacy act of 1974 applies to any personal information requested by a government agency beit federal, state or local. Not just your social.

bigcountry 01-19-2004 07:13 AM

RE: Buying powder at Bass Pro
 
Trebark, they are full of bull. I also buy at Bass Pro and same treatment. Go to clydes up near Linthicum. They don't have this rule. Or gun shack in Mt. airy.

Trebark 01-19-2004 02:13 PM

RE: Buying powder at Bass Pro
 
Bigcountry,
I didn't think about Clyde's. Do they have a pretty good selection of powders?How are their prices and Gun Shack's?
Thanks,
Charlie

bigcountry 01-19-2004 04:40 PM

RE: Buying powder at Bass Pro
 
Don't expect deals at clydes. But it is convienent and I don't have to fight the crowd at bass pro. Gun Shack has a great selection for the reloader. But its well out of your way.

Trebark 01-19-2004 05:57 PM

RE: Buying powder at Bass Pro
 
Actually, I can be in Mt Airy in about 30 minutes, and I hunt right near there. Been to the Gun Shack several times, but only to check deer in. Never checked their reloading supplies. BTW, I just talked to my buddy at the FM office, and he's not aware of any such law! He says that he will make a few phone calls tonight or tommorow, and he'll get back with me.
Thanks for the info.
Charlie

oldelkhunter 01-20-2004 01:50 PM

RE: Buying powder at Bass Pro
 
I wouldn't buy a thing at a Bass Pro nothing... I have never been in such a poorly stocked gun store/sporting goods store except fishing in my entire life... They are a CAbelas wantobe.

bigcountry 01-20-2004 04:34 PM

RE: Buying powder at Bass Pro
 
You know oldelk, I totally agree. Your the first person I have found to agree with me on this. I was so excited when they opened one close to my company. Opening day was the last day I found them to be stocked up. I mean I went there the other day, and I couldn't find a barnes manuel, couldn't find Retumbo powder, and then only 30 cal bullets they had was Speer. Then went to jacket section, and didn't have tall's or anything related to my size. I told the manager, that was it. He said they were thinking of discontinueing reloading supplys to make space and on and on. I guess for more stupid gift sections with stuffed animals. So I took a 2hour drive to Cabelas up in Hamburg, PA. Had all that stuff and a bunch more.

propmahn 01-21-2004 04:54 PM

RE: Buying powder at Bass Pro
 
dont recall that being the case when i bought powder inst louis at the bass pro there. infact unlike what you say is at your store the one in St Louis just had the powder out on the shelves like any normal store. in fact i know of no age limit on buying powder or reloading components, as i couldnt buy ammo for my 357 before i turned 21, but i could buy components anywhere


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