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eyeballjr 02-07-2002 07:31 PM

300wsm reloading problems
 
After i resize the brass on my WSM it will allow me to close the bolt easilly it is hard to close. I have hornady dies is there something differnet about them. Should i not bring the dies all the way down to the ram or what the brass is fine after i shoot it, but after it goes through the full length resizer it does not seem to function as well. any info would be apreciated Thanks

old 3 Shoot 02-07-2002 08:16 PM

RE: 300wsm reloading problems
 
Hello eyeballjr
Im not sure I understand the question but going to take a stab at it .
I wouldn't run the case the whole length of the die only just the neck . You may also be not seating the bullet deep enough in the case. If this is the case you can create dangerous pressure. you may want to try and seat the bullet a little deeper in a dummy round and try that.

Mike

halcon 02-08-2002 02:01 AM

RE: 300wsm reloading problems
 
Sounds like Old 3 shoot has it covered from the info given

LARRY338 02-08-2002 08:57 AM

RE: 300wsm reloading problems
 
one other thing you might want to check is a dry or sticky expander. Sometimes, especially with a sharp shoulder, you can actually pull the shoulder up when your expander comes out of the case neck. Try a piece of new brass and see. Size it and check in your chamber for an easy fit without a bullet seated in the case.

eyeballjr 02-08-2002 01:47 PM

RE: 300wsm reloading problems
 
larry i think youve got it. It is kind of hard to bull down where the expander comes out of the neck. Is there any way to correct this like lubing the expander. When i first got the dies the expander came all of the way out of the dies. and i had to put it back in and tighten the crap out of it.

LARRY338 02-08-2002 07:53 PM

RE: 300wsm reloading problems
 
eyeball, try brushing the insides of your case necks with a bore brush before you resize. A little graphite on the brush wouldnt hurt. You can also apply some case lube to the inside of the necks with a q-tip, the least amount you can put on there will be about right. You can also chuck your expander up in a drill and polish it with some steel wool or a scotch brite green pad. One or all of these things ought to make the expander operate smoother. I usually clean my cases after resizing, that will remove any lube from the inside of the neck. Othewise you might get some powder sticking to the lube in the necks. Try just brushing the necks with graphite first, that will do it most of the time.

eyeballjr 02-09-2002 07:36 AM

RE: 300wsm reloading problems
 
thanks i will try this when i get off work today and let you know what happend. someone also said i might not be sizing my brass far enough. any thoughts on this

old 3 Shoot 02-09-2002 10:45 AM

RE: 300wsm reloading problems
 
once I have shot the brass in the gun that ist was intended for I normaly only resize just the neck.
Just my prefrence though

Mike

LARRY338 02-11-2002 12:08 PM

RE: 300wsm reloading problems
 
did you figure it out eyeball? what was the problem?

eyeballjr 02-11-2002 03:52 PM

RE: 300wsm reloading problems
 
Nope im starting to think that it is the dies. How often does the company mess up on dies? Is this common. I've tried everything. It is not the expander/decaper i know that. I have turned the die down, and i have turned it up still nothing. Now I have run out of brass. So i will have to order some. I am starting to get P.Oed. I E-mailed Hornady the other day and they have not resonded, and that chaps my hide to. I am thinking of just getting a neck sizing die for it and going from there. What is your guys opinion on all of this stuff. This is the first, and probably last time i have owned hornady dies. Think i will stick with rcbs, or lee from now on. They have never given me any problems.

old 3 Shoot 02-11-2002 04:30 PM

RE: 300wsm reloading problems
 
Any budies that you could borrow a set from to compare or even drag them to a local supply store

Mike

eyeballjr 02-11-2002 07:32 PM

RE: 300wsm reloading problems
 
im the only one around here that owns one that i know of. The local supply store has none. Same reason, im the only one that has one. So i cant do either of those things, beleive me if i could i would have already done it.

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eyeballjr 02-11-2002 07:55 PM

RE: 300wsm reloading problems
 
yes i have done every thing you have said, and still no luck. I have lubed every thing that could be lubed and more. The cases were fired out of my gun. They are nickel plated. Does this make any differnce? Winchester fatory rounds.

BigEd 02-11-2002 08:37 PM

RE: 300wsm reloading problems
 
It's darn hard to tell without being there but something maybe out of spec with either the dies or the brass. Since this is a new cartridge Hornady could have done something wrong or the brass may be thick in the neck or even too soft. I know a few people that have not been happy with different lots of Winchester brass in various calibers. Plus I have three sets of reloading dies from Hornady that work fine, BUT they are different to adjust than RCBS or Lee dies.

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eyeballjr 02-13-2002 05:51 PM

RE: 300wsm reloading problems
 
I think i need to send them back to the factory. Maybe they will fix them, very doubtful.

LARRY338 02-13-2002 07:37 PM

RE: 300wsm reloading problems
 
eyeball, try smoking up one of your unloaded cases with a candle or a disposable lighter, then drop it in your chamber and close the bolt on it. That should show you where the trouble is and maybe you can figure out what is going on with that die.

old 3 Shoot 02-13-2002 09:09 PM

RE: 300wsm reloading problems
 
wonder if the nickle platting could be making the neck not resize properly. is the thickness of a plated case thicker than just a standered one.
Just grasping for straws at this point.
Mike

old 3 Shoot 02-13-2002 09:11 PM

RE: 300wsm reloading problems
 
eyeball
can you get your hands on a few brass cases from a friend or some one and duplicate the exact same problem
problem ?

Mike

eyeballjr 02-14-2002 06:46 AM

RE: 300wsm reloading problems
 
i'll have to run over to bartlesville today and get some new factory rounds. My town is to small to carry anything new. But i can get some non nickel from there and i will try and smoke one also ill let you know what happens this evening or in the morning thanks

frizzellr 02-14-2002 10:43 AM

RE: 300wsm reloading problems
 
Since it is a new cartridge, maybe the tolerances don't quite match up between the dies and the rifle.

LARRY338 02-20-2002 06:25 PM

RE: 300wsm reloading problems
 
you ever figure it out eyeball?

keeter 02-21-2002 01:21 AM

RE: 300wsm reloading problems
 
hi,
i am new to the board but the problems you are having has happened to a friend of mine.he believes that the moly coat on his bullets may have caused the problem at the neck. last year i had a new ultra light arms 300 wsm built and was told that the chamber reamers were changed three times due to winchester changing case dimensions slightly.
the early reamers caused extreme pressures with the later manufactured ammo. might it be possible that some early die sets are manufactured to the early case dimensions and not fitting your chamber?

eyeballjr 02-21-2002 05:28 PM

RE: 300wsm reloading problems
 
they wouldn't send out a product that was not up to par would they? Any way I have one last resort. I am goning to trim about half a hundreth of the end of the die. Maybe it is not bumping the neck enough. One of my buddies said he had the same problem with a 7mm mag and that solved everything. I have already decided that sending them back to hornady is not an option. So this is my last chance.

keeter 02-22-2002 08:54 AM

RE: 300wsm reloading problems
 
eyeballjr,
let me know how this works out for you. i will be out shooting and reloading for my 300wsm as soon as we get rid of our snow and single digit temperatures.
thanks keeter.

keeter 02-22-2002 08:55 AM

RE: 300wsm reloading problems
 
eyeballjr,
let me know how this works out for you. i will be out shooting and reloading for my 300wsm as soon as we get rid of our snow and single digit temperatures.
thanks keeter.

keeter 02-22-2002 08:56 AM

RE: 300wsm reloading problems
 
eyeballjr,
let me know how this works out for you. i will be out shooting and reloading for my 300wsm as soon as we get rid of our snow and single digit temperatures.
thanks keeter.


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