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JGFLHunter 05-28-2017 03:34 PM

Need Help
 
How do I know when the brass is not capable of being reloading other than cracks and other obvious signs. I am having real hard time trouble shooting. I have FL sized and compared to other reloads. Everything looks the same. Could the brass be to big? I haven't reloaded in a while but I just don't understand what's going on. I have reloaded this brass 3x. It is for a 257 Weatherby. Maybe the life of the brass is done?

bronko22000 05-28-2017 05:38 PM

What seems to be the issue? Hard to advise you without knowing what problem you're having.
But I'm going to take a stab at this and think you're having trouble chambering a loaded round. If that's the case and having fired these cases 3 times and on the fourth reloading and it being a 257 WM my guess is that the case stretched and needs to be trimmed. But again, I'm grabbing at straws here because I don't know what your problem is!

BRUSE 05-28-2017 06:05 PM

Im not to sure I understand either. I'd measure the casing as described in the manual checking it's length and width to see if it's to long or wide to chamber. Last time you fired the rifle did everything function as normal . Was it hard to extract the rounds?

Ridge Runner 05-28-2017 07:08 PM

here are some signs of fatigue in brass
loss of neck tension....solution anneal
springback from work hardened brass....solution anneal
incipient case head separation...solution trash it
loose primer pockets......your casehead expansion is more than .0015 its trashed, back the loads off your over pressure
RR

JGFLHunter 05-28-2017 08:08 PM

The loads I shot today were actually factory loads from Weatherby. I was able to chamber and rack fine when they were not fired. Once I fired the round, it took all my weight to get bolt to extract. Eventually a round got stuck. I was able to get it out. Again this was factory ammo.

I got home and wanted to reload. I had already prepped a while back and all I needed to do was powder and seat bullet. I decided to make a dummy round first. The dummy round wouldn't even go all the way in. Again this is my reloads now.

I then checked previous reloads that were completely done. They loaded up just fine.

I do have a new rifle as this is a Remington 700 and not the Vanguard. The loads are nothing crazy, they should chamber and eject without putting an extreme amount of force.

I don't know what is going on? Am I missing something? Hopefully this is a better explanation.

Sheridan 05-28-2017 08:40 PM

I might understand if it was .223 VS 5.56 or .308 vs 7.62 ammo/caliber gun ??

mounting man 05-28-2017 10:53 PM

Sounds like the factory loads are loaded real hot and the brass is of a type that doesn't spring back down after being fired? Bad brass ?

Oldtimr 05-29-2017 03:49 AM

When was the last time you really cleaned the chamber of the .257?

bronko22000 05-29-2017 04:26 AM

It does sound like you have chamber issues. Maybe time to take it to a gunsmith. could be a head spacing issue.

JGFLHunter 05-29-2017 06:49 AM

It's a brand new rifle. Cleaned before shooting as well as every few shots since it is brand new. I'm not taking it to a gunsmith. I will be dealing with Remington if I need to talk to anybody, since it is brand new.

bronko22000 05-29-2017 07:37 AM


Originally Posted by JGFLHunter (Post 4306187)
It's a brand new rifle. Cleaned before shooting as well as every few shots since it is brand new. I'm not taking it to a gunsmith. I will be dealing with Remington if I need to talk to anybody, since it is brand new.

Then by all means do so. But just tell them about the factory ammo not the reloads.

BRUSE 05-29-2017 11:55 AM

I had the same issue with a Remington 700 in 7mag. I ended up sending the rifle back and having some chamber work done. It took several weeks but it's good to go now.

bronko22000 05-29-2017 03:01 PM

At one time my gun safe held nothing but Remington rifles and shotguns. Now today it only holds 3 rifles (an old 700BDL, a 600, and a 572BDL) and a couple 870 shotguns. I have discovered that I like Tikka and Browning rifles much better.
Don't get me wrong. The 700 action is one of the best and is the base for many custom rifles. But Remington quality has seem to have been slipping lately. You used to never hear of any problems with them but now it seems a common ocurance.

JGFLHunter 05-30-2017 06:00 AM

Yeah I haven't shot reloads yet, but in sure there is a chamber issue especially if factory ammo doesn't fit in chamber well. The one reason I got this 700 CDL SF is because of the 26" barrel. I would love to have a Mark V(just not in my price range). All my bolt action rifles I've ever owned were Weatherby Vanguard. The dealI got on this rifle I couldn't pass on it. I know Remington will take care of me, at least that is what I'm hoping. I'll update as events take place.

So does anybody know the regulations about shipping rifles? I am trying to find out if I can personally send this rifle to Remington or do I need to go with a FFL? It seems logical that I can send it, but when they send it back it would have to go thru FFL? I have sent rifles to Weatherby in the past just using my address and stuff, but that was a long time ago and I know things changed. I haven't really found anything online yet. I called Gander Mountain but they are no longer shipping anything out even went I bought it there.

bronko22000 05-30-2017 10:43 AM

Normally rifles do not need to go through an FFL only handguns. But if you got it from a dealer, why not just take it to him and let him handle it for you?

Nomercy448 05-30-2017 07:16 PM


Originally Posted by bronko22000 (Post 4306293)
Normally rifles do not need to go through an FFL only handguns. But if you got it from a dealer, why not just take it to him and let him handle it for you?

Not meaning to be disagreeable, but going through the dealer with a manufacturer warranty item is a waste of time. It's faster and easier to go straight to the OEM yourself.

Secondly - it's common for folks to confuse the rules for shipping firearms for private transfers with the rules for any other firearm shipping, HOWEVER: When sent to the manufacturer for repairs or other work, no FFL transfer is required, for any firearm type. The only way an FFL will "need" to get involved will be if they have to replace the firearm with a new one, at which point they won't be returning the same firearm, but rather replacing it with a different one, and an FFL will have to perform that particular transfer. Otherwise, warranty work goes straight to the OEM and straight back to your doorstep.

JGFLHunter 06-02-2017 09:07 AM

I got with Remington and got the service request. As No mercy said I am able to send the rifle with no problem privately. Whenever they get the rifle and look at it they will call me and let me know what the problem is. The warranty should apply since the rifle is barely a month old.

rogerstv 06-27-2017 09:14 AM

If not too late, make sure the package looks like there is no firearm inside. Removes the "advertisement" and the "enticement" for USPS thiefs. You are shipping to Remington. So, maybe a moot point. Another bit of shipping advise is to send it certified. I believe that forces USPS to lock it up at each destination.

JGFLHunter 06-29-2017 11:33 PM

The firearm made it to the destination. It should be another week or two in the waiting line. Then the person said two or three more weeks on the repair.

JGFLHunter 08-04-2017 09:00 AM

Finally got the rifle back. They did chamber work, headspace, reamed, and test fired. Going to shoot in a little. Should be good to go. Ready to shoot and start reloading process and then start working on my shooting for my Wyoming trip. Where I hunt 100 yards is a far shot.

BRUSE 08-05-2017 01:18 PM

That's good stuff enjoy your trip you the range

esox_xtm 08-06-2017 03:10 PM

Possible for the throat to be short? That can cause high pressures in "regular" loads. Have you run one up the pipe and ejected it without firing? My brothers' buddy has a Winchester '06 that runs short and if he ejects w/o firing there's powder all over and a bullet stuck in the bore.


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