Reloading Future
03-20-2012, 12:18 PM
#1
Spike
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Join Date: Oct 2004
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Reloading Future
I have been reloading on the better part of 43 yrs and I saw a add by Remington promoting there steel cases non reloadable and it sent chills down my back is this the future of reloading ? [not] Let me make a guess on who owns Remington ammunition you think George Soros might have a hand in it the same person that might be the ownes ABC,NBC, CBS and CNBC
03-20-2012, 01:58 PM
#2
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 3,813
I don't see commercial brass cases going away anytime soon. But if they did I have no doubt some enterprising soul would come up with a way to cast brass casings and market it to the reloading community.
03-20-2012, 05:27 PM
#3
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,320
To be brutally honest I have all the brass I could ever need to last me for decades. After that I won't really give a rats axx. That goes for primers, powder, bullets too. Thats my future in handloading.
Given the amount of wasted brass I see all the time at the range and anywhere people shoot they will ultimately pay for their waste...this will not be my problem.
Given the amount of wasted brass I see all the time at the range and anywhere people shoot they will ultimately pay for their waste...this will not be my problem.
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03-21-2012, 03:51 AM
#4
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2009
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Nothing stays constant
The problem for us old timers is change. Some change is good; some not really necessary. A lot of it can be just change. And lot it comes at a higher price; for all that change.
I don't see it just in hunting goods; I see it in fishing; household products; products I see in building supply.
There's a sporting goods product I use in fishing, no longer used in new sporting goods products. But then, I never bought it at a sporting good store. So it's still available to me.
And I'll hold out until not used by anyone.
Some military ammo was made with steel cases years ago; even sold commercial years ago. Why I remember seeing a NEW case made of some type of "plastic." Could have worried decades ago, that brass cartridges were on the way out.
I don't see it just in hunting goods; I see it in fishing; household products; products I see in building supply.
There's a sporting goods product I use in fishing, no longer used in new sporting goods products. But then, I never bought it at a sporting good store. So it's still available to me.
And I'll hold out until not used by anyone.
Some military ammo was made with steel cases years ago; even sold commercial years ago. Why I remember seeing a NEW case made of some type of "plastic." Could have worried decades ago, that brass cartridges were on the way out.
03-21-2012, 06:06 AM
#5
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,320
On those very few occasions that I must use a public shooting range I recall seeing dozens of customers wading thru brass rolling around all over the place. Or sit next to a guy who buys a new box of ammo, shoots the whole box and neatly puts all the empties back in the box, walks away. Or friends of mine that shoot, actually bragging about all the brass they left on the floor. My shooting box always weighs more coming home than it did going there in the first place. Again .....waste not/want not.
03-21-2012, 09:50 AM
#6
Fork Horn
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 260
I'm sure the reason for steel cases is simply that they cost less. The price of metals has probably tripled in the last decade. Maybe more than that. Steel cases can be made cheaply.
In the back of their mind they may realize that this will hurt reloading, allowing them to sell more ammo. On the other hand, many of us reloaders don't buy steel cases, so that hurts sales.
Think about Hornady. Their business is reloading. Even they are offering steel cased ammo.
Reloading is a big industry and I think getting bigger. We are much more likely to be threatened by the govt making it illegal than not being able to buy components.
I have a few midway and cabelas catalogs from 7-8 years ago that I flipped through. It is interesting how much some things have gone up in price, and some things haven't.
In the back of their mind they may realize that this will hurt reloading, allowing them to sell more ammo. On the other hand, many of us reloaders don't buy steel cases, so that hurts sales.
Think about Hornady. Their business is reloading. Even they are offering steel cased ammo.
Reloading is a big industry and I think getting bigger. We are much more likely to be threatened by the govt making it illegal than not being able to buy components.
I have a few midway and cabelas catalogs from 7-8 years ago that I flipped through. It is interesting how much some things have gone up in price, and some things haven't.
03-22-2012, 10:21 AM
#7
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,320
Yep the big "Obama Election" ammo/component scare of 2008 sent primer prices to as high as $75-80 /1000. I have some I bought 2 years prior to that cost me $19/1000. Some I bought two months ago $33/1000. Cost of raw materials is not the only driving force in the prices changes. Political climate has as much to do with it as anything.
03-24-2012, 07:19 PM
#8
Fork Horn
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Yep the big "Obama Election" ammo/component scare of 2008 sent primer prices to as high as $75-80 /1000. I have some I bought 2 years prior to that cost me $19/1000. Some I bought two months ago $33/1000. Cost of raw materials is not the only driving force in the prices changes. Political climate has as much to do with it as anything.
