Swift Reloading Data for Scirocco
 

Does any one have a Swift Reloading Book that they would be willing to look up some date for me? I want to try some of the Scirocco' s but don' t have any min/max info. I will be loading the 130 grain in a 270 with IMR 3831 and the 210 grain in a 338 RUM with Reloader 22. I would really like to see how these shoot before I go buy the book. I would really appreciate it if some one would post the data here.

Thanks a million!!

RE: Swift Reloading Data for Scirocco
 

I' m not sure Swift has a reloading book. I would use the 130 grain swift bullet loaded just like any other 130 grain bullet in your .270 and the 210 grain swift should be loaded just like any other 210 grain bullet in the .338.

Always back off 5% and work back again.

RE: Swift Reloading Data for Scirocco
 

Wrong, the scirroco bullets has much thicker jacket than a " regular" 130gr bullet. I have saw pressure signs 2grs lower than regular bullets and 3gr below the max in my 300RUM. I will try to look it up when I get home tonight.

You really have to be careful with bullets like the Scrirroco, failsafe, barnes, and trophy bonded, they will build pressure much quicker than bullets like Sierra gamekings, Nosler partitions and bullistic tips, and hornady SST' s.

RE: Swift Reloading Data for Scirocco
 

BigCountry.....I' ve used Swift A-frames under these rules for several years..... and Scirocco too.

I' ve not encountered a problem of any kink yet.

Can you tell me more about specific incidents??

RE: Swift Reloading Data for Scirocco
 

On Swifts website they do have a reloading book for sale, but I would like to try them out before I buy the book though. They don' t show any reloading on the web though. Thanks for looking it up for me BC. Depending on what you find I may just have to give them a call and see what I can get out of them.

Thanks
Dale

RE: Swift Reloading Data for Scirocco
 

Shoot, I forgot last night. Sorry.

Yep, here' s the story. Before swift came out with the reloading book. I had a great load of 94.5gr of H1000 with 180 Nosler Partitions for my 300RUM with around 3200fps. So I tried 180gr Swift Scirrocos same load. Very stupid. Had a very sticky bolt lift and velocity was 3300fps. I went on accurate reloading forums, and found the information why. Another incident, was I had a nice load for 180gr Sierra Gameking for my 300RUM with 89gr of Re22. No pressure signs all the way up to 92gr Re22, but accuracy was best at 89gr. So I worked up loads for Trophy bonded. Started at 84gr. I didn' t have my chrono working that day. So I shot up to 88gr, and the brass was stuck in my chamber. Had to beat it out. No warning or anything. If I had my chrono, I could have had some indication about it.

Now for A-frames, I have been able to kinda follow the rules for other bullets like Sierra, Nosler and Hornady.

Go to Accurate Reloading and do a search for Scirrocos. Or ask about increasing pressure and copper fouling with these bullets.

Need some help... I am very new to reloading, and I am working on trying to make a load for my Remington 700 300 Ultra Mag. Going on an Elk trip in October, and I am looking for a good load. I have read about the different kind of bullets, and I am not quite sure what would be a good one to use. Any Help?

For the higher velocities of the ultra mag I'd look to two bullets and use a 200 grain bullet in the Northfork or the Swift A-Frame.

I've used both on African plains game in a .300 H&H with great success and recommend both highly. They are a tad spendy but worth the extra IMO.

I've had no problems at all working up a load for either of these bullets using regular cup and core data from Hodgdons or Hornady loading data assuming we always start low and work up which we should be doing anyway! IIRC Northfork recommends starting 8% under max but so far I've always worked back to max loads without incident!

I'd not recommend any standard cup and core bullet in the ultramag (or any magnum for that matter) but would much prefer a bonded bullet of some type and the Northforks and A-Frames are "stand out" bullets that will not come apart at the higher velocities.

I've used Barnes a bit lately and that bullet has promise at the higher velocities but to date I've only range tested them and not actually killed anything with them. Others have high praise for them.

Dale I own the manual.

130 grain Scirocco / 270 Winchester

Case - Federal
Primer Federal 210
Barrel Length - 24"
Barrel Twist - 1:10

IMR 4831 - Starting charge 52.1 / velocity 2911 fps - Max 56.0 / velocity 3133 fps

For the 338 Remington Ultra Mag there is no load data for the Scirocco bullet for this cartridge. They only list data for the A-Frame bullet in 225,250, & 275 grain weight.

If you decide to use the A-Frame instead let me know.


Bill

Just noticed this freakin thread is 7 years old. What a dumass!!!:eek2:

7MMXBOLT, you wouldnt happen to have some date for the 300 RUM 180 Grain Swift Scirocco II would you?

Batman, there is data in the manual for the 180 Scirocco bullet for the 300 RUM. Powders used are Hodgdon - 1000,4350,4831 / Alliant - RL-19,RL-22,RL-25 / IMR - 4350,4831,7828.

If you have a powder prefrence let me know and I will post it for you. Best powder "load density" is with the H-1000 @ 100% case fill and RL-25 @ 96%.

Interesting.......within 1/10th of a grain the same as Hornady lists for their 130 interlock.

7MMXBOLT,

Greatly appreciate the info, actually those are the two powders I was thinking (H1000, and RL-25) can you give me the Min/Max for these two powders for this bullet, as well as maybe the RL-22 as well... Thanks!

Re: Swift Reloading Data
 

Hi Bill
Is there a load listed for the 100 gr. Scirocco in 25-06?
Thanks
Troy

Negative....this reloading manual is "Number One" copywrite 2007. They only have data for the 100gr A-Frame for the 25-06.

Did swift come out with this 100 gr Scirocco bullet recently? I wouldn't mind giving that bullet a try in my 06. I'm working with the 100 gr Accubond & 115 gr CT Silver tip at the present time but I have been a big fan of the Scirocco bullet since it first came out.

Thanks for the prompt reply !

Not sure when the Scirocco came out. I reload the 25 for a friend and his son. He has always shot the Winchester 90 gr positive expanding point factory load. I loaded up some 87 gr. Speer TNTs and 85 gr. CT Ballistic Silver Tips last spring. Came up with 2 very accurate loads in his son's Ruger Bolt Action. Just too light for whitetail though. Was looking at the Scirocco or Barnes TSX in 100 gr. next as they are both speed addicts (as am I) and would prefer to go as light as I am able. How does the Accubond perform on deer?

I couldn't tell you first hand but based on everything I have researched on other forums to this point the word is it does very well. Plans are to do some gel & media testing here after the holidays at different velocities to get an idea of what I could expect..so we'll see. I already have a great load worked up with the 85 gr CT Silver Tip that I use for Coyote but I really would like something a little more versitile that I could use for Whitetail & Yote's. I really like the TTSX Barnes bullet also but they are a little pricey however, I have the Quickload software coming in any day now which will help keep the cost down when doing load developement. Because I like to explore all possibilties I tend to go through 100-200 bullets during testing so the QL software should cut that down considerably..atleast that's the plan anyways.

I use Nosler 180gr. Partition, and H1000 powder in my Remington 700 Sendero in 300 Ultra Mag. Works great on elk. Very accurate also.