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Kaianuanu 10-06-2011 06:09 PM

Large pistol primers in 270 win?
 
I was buying some primers for my 270 and I accidentally picked up CCI #300 large pistol primers in stead of #200 large rifle primers. Thanks to my mom, i have a habit of grabbing an item from the bottom of the stack, and i neglected to check the box i grabbed . . . STUPID! I cant return them, but i have read about people using large pistol primers instead of large rifle primers when primers were scarce. I also read one of the problems with this is that the rifles may pierce the primers, or they may not ignite slower powders, will these work okay with my savage axis and H4350 powder, assuming that it doesnt piece them when i test them in a spent casing? I NEED AN ANSWER QUICK PLEASE!

Don Fischer 10-06-2011 06:32 PM

don't do it. Softer cups on pistol primers. You'll find your accuracy fall off and you'll be piercing primers.

skb2706 10-07-2011 06:25 AM

Sell them off and buy the correct primers. And don't blame your mom for your mistake, she won't be there to hold your hand when you are loading....will she?

Any decent loading manual will clearly state that you should not substitute components. In this case its more than a substitution, they are not made for the application.

steve4102 10-07-2011 03:33 PM


Originally Posted by skb2706 (Post 3857853)

Any decent loading manual will clearly state that you should not substitute components. .

Really? The load data in all of my manuals is set in stone and is now a recipe instead of a "Guideline" . I cannot substitute a Federal primer if my manual listed a Rem? I cannot use data for a bullet of same weight of similar construction (substitution)? I cannot use my firearm, I must use the one used in the manual? I must use the same lot number of powder, primers and brass?

Now that that is done, Show where in the loading manuals that "clearly state that you should not substitute components". Mine say that IF I substitute any component I should start low and work back up, but NONE say that I cannot substitute components of similar design, weight and construction.

Now to the OP, do not use these primers in your 270. This is not a component substitution, they are simply the wrong primers and will give you issues you do not need.

Don Fischer 10-09-2011 07:54 PM

I think he was referring to type of primer, not brand. Now in shotgun it's pretty much written in stone what component's to use. I never substitute components then.

Prairie Wolf 10-10-2011 08:45 AM

There are some people that use pistol primers in rifle cartridges. Its been awhile since I read that article, but I think it was in a .22 hornet, which is not a high pressure round, nor does it have much case capacity. Most importantly, it was someone who knew what they were doing.

Do not use pistol primers in a .270 win.

Save them, some day you may have a pistol, or maybe you can trade them to someone who does.

Kaianuanu 10-10-2011 11:02 AM

I went back the next day and because i still had the receipt and because i did not wait a week or so, the manager was kind enough to make an exception for me although it was against their policy. And, I wasn't blaming my mom, i was just pointing out that i got the habit from her which I think is a good practice. It was my own carelessness that didn't check it, but it would be nice if cci had like a color coding system of put a picture of a pistol on them or something.

charlie brown 10-10-2011 11:59 AM

Or writing that says #300 Large pistol primers. Has always worked for me.

goatbrother 10-12-2011 12:30 PM

Large rifle primers are recomended for such high presure pistol cartridges like the 454 Casull. But like others have commented, pistol primers are of a thinner metal cup and may not hold up to modern rifle pressures.

AKHunterNP 10-16-2011 06:43 AM


Originally Posted by charlie brown (Post 3859090)
Or writing that says #300 Large pistol primers. Has always worked for me.

So that's what labels are for...:biggrin:

brianwhitskey24 11-17-2011 04:19 AM

Hey nice thread and thanks to all the members to share the information thank you

MinnFinn 11-18-2011 05:04 PM

I don't know if you're talking about a single flat of 100 primers or a brick of 1000. Either way, is taking the chance you'd possibly screw up your rifle or worse worth $4 or $40?
I'd trade the primers to someone you know who loads with the primers you bought. Otherwise, look for pistol to buy that you always wanted that loads with large pistol primers.


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