22-250 14" twist game bullet
 

I have been looking for a bullet that could be used for hunting whitetails or antelope with my 22-250. Most seem to be designed for 10" or 12" twist. I looked at 55 gr x bullets and they had a warning against using in 14" twist. Partitions seem to only come in heavier longer versions. What bearclaws are available seem to be very high priced. What do people use (if anything) for a 14" twist barrel?

You can probably use a regular soft point. I have. I don't like the .22-250 for big game, but if you pick your shots, bullet construction won't matter as much. You can blow up a varmint bullet in a deer's lungs and it won't get far. I have even killed a deer with a shoulder shot with hollow point, but it was mostly fragments that got into the lungs. I was young and dumb.

Otherwise, I would try the 50 grain triple shock. Velocity is part of the equation on stability, so the extra speed of the '250 might pull it off. There also is a .45 grain triple shock. They don't actually give a twist recommendation on either on the barnes website.

53 grain TSXs fly great in my 1:14 twist 22-250. Killed a 250-300# hog with it.

Thanks guys. Ths warning against 14" twist was actually on a sticker on the bullet box. I didn't see anything on their website either. I guess I'll have to get a box and see how they group, with the NP's as second alternative.

I shoot 52 gr Hornady Amax bullets. They are a little tougher than the V max and for sure group better in my 14" twist rifle. 38grs of H-380

i use the speer 55gr sp most of the time,my rifle dont like barnes at all and its a 14 twist.good luck

Here in Virginia you can't hunt deer or any big game with a .22 caliber. I think there are many states that have that same rule. Can't you find a more suitable caliber to hunt deer sized game?

55gn serria SP will do the job nicely it's a favorite in my Moms Mk X. Its taken a dozen or so mulies cleanly,although the operater may have some influence.

Nv allows big game w/"a 22cal or larger center fire w/an oal of 2 inches or greater that produces at least 1000 ft lbs at 100 yds." Which makes a .223 w/55gn SPBT 24"bbl legal ,and rules out a deference loaded 350gn rem RNHP 45-70 from a ported Marlin guide gun.Would a warden give you the long neck if you were hunting elk w/a 223 ? Yes.1 word about elk w/45-70 I doubt it.

Would I take a 223 over even the 22-250 or its Savage parents ? No. Would I hunt elk w/any of the these ? Not on purpose .

Keep it in the vitals,take good shots,use a bullet over 50gn and up,over 50 yds under 225yds and your whitetail will be in a whole lotta trouble.

Are you saying that a .45-70 wouldn't take an elk? I'm confused now. If your answer is yes then what do you think took all those elk in the old days? .45-70 Gov. rounds out of single shot rifles were used to take buffalo at hundreds of yards.

Maybe I read you post wrong, did I?

I've been acused of not being clear once or twice.

Those deference of slow low pressure powders out of the 18" ported bbl come up short of the 1000 ft lbs w/ the bc of Remingtons 350gn HP. There's like 27 ft lbs between the 2 as I recall . On paper the 45-70 guidegun was only delivering 985 ft lbs where the223 showed 1012 . That was the season that was all about me pouring through books an magizines for a solid month to determin exactly what cartridges and arms would make the cut. In a spectaular twist from a 18" AR vs a 26" Trapdoor the reverse is true. As the 45-70 then carries well over 1200 ft lbs with those same Remington loads . I had a little too much time on my hands that year. I also found that many pistol cartridges actually out perform the minimum cartridge requirements but didn't fit the requirements.

Used properly a 22LR will do it all,but,I prefer to have some margine for error. I don't care for magnum rifles either,too much of a good thing.

I try in my posts to inspire one to look at the whole box not just the shiney high contrasting lable on the front ,maybe grab a loading manual just to see if I'm jacking them or not.

What part of not being able to hunt in Va. with a .22 caliber gun didn't you get pal. It is illegal! I can kill a deer with a sling shot if I had to, but is it humane? I don't think so and maybe that is why it is illegal in my state.

And as far as experience, how about 55 + years in the shooting business. Also, a ballistics expert in law enforcement for more then 15 years. :confused0024:

Gently fella's. Please.

I have killed at least a dozen deer with a .22-250. It can be done.

That said, I prefer more power, so I use a .30-06. I've had a few long tracking jobs with the .22-250. Tracking a deer is great fun, but it probably isn't the most humane way to do things, so now I use a bigger stick.

For those who are patient, careful about shot angle, don't overdo it on range, and don't shoot at running deer, a .22-250 is perfectly fine for deer.

I prefer larger caliber because I don't want to worry about shot angle, sometimes hunt at long range, and sometimes shoot at running deer.

I don't understand why some people think that because they do things a certain way, everyone else should too.

I use this analogy. If I was in front of a firing squad would I want to be shot by a 7mm08 to the vitals or a 22 250 to the vitals. Using good hunting ethics leads me to make a decision in favour of the animal.

Cudos to you deerndingo. Finally a man with some integrity. :hail:

I play this same game. I lost one once and it bothered me for quite a while.

A lot of people forget why the army went to the 5.56/.223, it's wounding power. It was light to care and you could carry more. Recoil was very manageable and it would wound an enemy and them it would then take more enemy soldiers to carry him off the battle field. But when hunting we don't want to wound, we want to get as clean a kill as possible. :wave:

I didn't get the bit in his post where he said he was an expert. I do see your point that modern hunting projectiles inflict a greater amount of damage than FMJs. Even with that I'd still ellect to be shot by a 7mm08 to the vitals than a 22-250. A well placed 22-250 will do the job, but a 7mm08 or such will do a better job quicker every time.

I think there are a lot of new hunters who do read these posts so I think we need to set an example for those newbies. We should be showing them how to do it the right way first up. If they want to go do something else later then so be it, but a 7mm08 and such is a better deer calibre than a 22-250 under varying circumstances.

It's funny,why does the OP want to usee the 22-250 for deer ? Is this his only rifle ? Maybe there is some real valid reason for his choice. Times are tight id say since he sighted the least FMJ/varmiter like bullets around that he's an ethical hunter.

And what decision would that be? To let him go because you don't want to hurt the poor thing?

At ranges less than 100 yards, I don't think there will be any difference in the amount of the amount of time the deer stays alive. A .22-250 has less energy, but it will dump that energy right where it is needed with little wasted. At least it does with a varmint bullet. The problem with a .22-250 is not with the chip shots, it is when you have to penetrate to get to the vitals.

If you are concerned about being humane, a 7mm08 isn't exactly the biggest gun out there either.

Ohoh here it comes!

I wanna be 1st!

Ya gots ta have a 300WM for thems anti-lopers and at least a 458 for whitetail,oh the humanity of it all........er something.

I gotta ask you RR,is your ass as big as your confrentational mouth? I always say talk or in this case write as if the guy is standing in front of you. I guess you missed that class.

No, I have half a dozen larger caliber rifles, some of which are more suitable (I'm not sure that a .416 Rigby is really all that much better for antelope), and in any event, take most of my game with a bow. I'm just looking for the best bullet for that particular rifle, in the event that an opportunity should present itself.

Well if only for getting the most devestation on a larger target you'd have to have a look at a Barnes. Then again for cheap, accurate, explosive front, hold together rear I'd just go for a Sierra 1365 pill. Shoots in most anything called a 22-250. But the 22-250 was originaly called the 22 Varminter.

check out cabelas,they carry a polimer tipped tsx 50gr.i use sierra 55gr gameking sp the speer 55gr sp and the barnes 50gr.the nosler 60gr partition also shoots well in my 22-250 1-14 twist.the barnes bullets in my rifle likes speed.hope this helps