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bigcountry 07-31-2003 06:43 AM

Max COL 300RUM you would safely load
 
I got those new Accubonds 200gr for my 300RUM. I can load these bad boys really long and still be much greater than .308" in the neck. According to my Stoney Point, I have to load 3.82" COL to hit the lands. I know these 300RUM are supposed to have some freebore or pressure will shoot up. So I loaded 3.75" Re25 84gr - 91gr, 9.5 primer. I know SAAMI specs is 3.6" and I usually load 3.65" max. Whats the longest you guys load this? I want accuracy.

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bigcountry 07-31-2003 09:57 AM

RE: Max COL 300RUM you would safely load
 
I agree. Another guy I know had a 300RUM made with no freebore so at a COL of 3.6" , he would be in the lands. He said he might as well throw the reloading books away and had to drop the loads by 10% for max.

stubblejumper 07-31-2003 09:38 PM

RE: Max COL 300RUM you would safely load
 
How do they fit the magazine at 3.750" ?My magazine is only 3.680"

bigcountry 08-01-2003 09:29 AM

RE: Max COL 300RUM you would safely load
 
Oh, fitting in the Mag stops at 3.64" . Thats out the window. I just want some good clover leaf groups. For target shooting out to 600 yards.

oldelkhunter 08-01-2003 10:57 AM

RE: Max COL 300RUM you would safely load
 
DG...you mean Remington copied something from Weatherbys handbook? I' m shocked

bigcountry 08-01-2003 12:13 PM

RE: Max COL 300RUM you would safely load
 
No, didn' t copy, just improved upon. Less freebore, no belt, tad faster, gotta love it.

oldelkhunter 08-01-2003 02:27 PM

RE: Max COL 300RUM you would safely load
 
bigcountry, you also left off 30 grains of powder to gain 100-150fps, more recoil, and the factory loaded ammo almost costs as much...not to mention feed problems with the ammo...

bigcountry 08-01-2003 02:46 PM

RE: Max COL 300RUM you would safely load
 
I have had three of them. Never had a feed problem. I never met too many with them either. As far as the powder, goes, the average is 13gr extra. As far as recoil, I happen to have access to both a 300Weatherby and 300RUM. Still waiting for someone to show up for the challenge of betting me they can tell the difference in recoil with the same bullet, same pressures. And hey, they are both remingtons. Any takers. I can' t tell the difference with most loads. I was shooting Re25 and 200Swift A-Frames for moose hunting and could tell the slight difference.

Factory ammo, lets see, I can get 200gr Nosler Partitions for my 300RUM for 31 dollars. Guess how much for Weatherby? Guess how much for Weatherby brand with Nosler Partitions. And far as speed, I don' t find my most accurate load at the max pressures. For example, my .5MOA load is 180gr Nosler Partition and 93gr of H1000 with a 250 primer. It shoots 3090fps on average. The weatherby is 83gr Compressed of H1000 with a 180gr Nosler Partition with average velocity of 3050fps.

So, could you explain further what you meant. Surely you jest.

bigcountry 08-01-2003 02:49 PM

RE: Max COL 300RUM you would safely load
 
Sorry oldelkhunter for the long post, it just errks me when I hear another shootist complain about recoil. Come on, its our hobby, we should be able to handle this recoil.

stubblejumper 08-01-2003 02:52 PM

RE: Max COL 300RUM you would safely load
 
Try 15 grains difference for 125 to 150fps.I have had no feeding problems at all with my ultramags.Since I don' t use factory loads that is not an issue for me but I can buy 300ultramag loads with 180gr partitions for $55 canadian.Weatherby brand factory loads with 180gr partitions sell for $80 canadian.As for recoil my 300ultramags with mcmillan stocks feel no worse than my 300wby with it' s factory synthetic stock.

oldelkhunter 08-01-2003 03:04 PM

RE: Max COL 300RUM you would safely load
 
Gee were touchy Sorry I don' t see ammo that price around here closer to 40 dollars a box and its Remington brass not Norma brass....Based on the quantities i I have seen used on the Gun Racks its a one box deal... all except for you and Stubblejumper.

oldelkhunter 08-01-2003 03:14 PM

RE: Max COL 300RUM you would safely load
 
You know Bigcountry after reading your last post I wish I had my 300 wsm' s back heck they were getting almost 3000 fps with a 180 partition. :) I don' t have a problem with recoil just a problem with useless recoil that is uneeded and unwanted in a hunting situation...

bigcountry 08-01-2003 03:21 PM

RE: Max COL 300RUM you would safely load
 
True alot of people do trade them in. They buy them for the wrong reasons. Buy them for strickly deer hunting. Yea, I wish I had a 300WSM too. Last weekend however, I did find a firecracker load. I tried 96gr-101 of Retumbo and a 180gr nosler Partition, and was getting 3300 to 3400fps. It cooked. But I was getting 2.5" groups at 200 yards consistently. I believe that might be my moose load for this year. For most people that 300WSM and 300Win mag is ideal. I just like having the option to go faster if I want too.

Tomorrow I am trying out 200gr Hornady' s and 77gr of 4350. I expect to be in the 3000 range with very light recoil. See, with this round you do have that option.

MR300WM 08-01-2003 03:39 PM

RE: Max COL 300RUM you would safely load
 
I don' t have any feeding problems either. I also don' t think the recoil is that bad. I got my Chrony working again and 101grs of Retumbo averaged at 3365fps with the 180gr Hornady SST. My OAL is 3.665. I haven' t seen very many used rifles in the Ultra mag line around here.

oldelkhunter 08-01-2003 04:41 PM

RE: Max COL 300RUM you would safely load
 
BigCountry, just pulling your leg a little I know you look forward to that. Actually I picked up a 338/378 a few months back(WHy I don' t know) I guess I got it dirt cheap from a guy that lost his job and didn' t need a lot of toys. I know I can resell it in a heartbeat for way more than I paid for it... Looked at the price of new ammo and my jaw dropped...Will be a handloading only proposition and a novelty item at that ... When I go hunting especially for Elk the 338 I have gathering dust in the closet will do the trick. Good luck in your shooting I know how much you want to nail a big moose.

bigcountry 08-01-2003 05:20 PM

RE: Max COL 300RUM you would safely load
 
Well, USDA has just issued a statement, that no meat can be brought back to US from Canada. I am still trying to find out if this applies from Moose from Newfoundland. That sucks.

stubblejumper 08-01-2003 05:40 PM

RE: Max COL 300RUM you would safely load
 
At this point it covers meat from all game animals from all parts of canada.The outfitters are hoping this will change but it hasn' t happened yet.

oldelkhunter 08-01-2003 07:12 PM

RE: Max COL 300RUM you would safely load
 
Bad for US Hunters and unfortunately worse for Canadian outfitters

bigcountry 08-03-2003 11:07 PM

RE: Max COL 300RUM you would safely load
 
Well, just got back from the range. I tried those accubonds at 3.8" COL and man did they shoot well. I made it up to 91gr of Re25 and my primers were flat as flop. My groups were around 1.2" at 200 yards. Can' t be happier. Next week,I will try them at 3.6" and see the difference.

charlie brown 08-04-2003 12:12 PM

RE: Max COL 300RUM you would safely load
 
I' ve never noticed recoil in a hunting situation;)


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