Accelerator Sabot help....
 

I'm wanting to load the "Accelerator Sabot" in .308Win.
Any help on a suggested load? I am new to reloading also.
I'd be shooting Prarie Dogs/yotes/etc out to 1000 yds (if all goes well)
Also, should I get a special die for these sabots? Or do I really need that.

I know that Remington has an "accelerator" cartridge and that is as much as I know. I would love to know more myself. Do you know what sabot and bullet is used or is that what you are trying to figure out?

No, I'm looking for info on loading it myself. What type of powder, how much, which primer, do I need the special die? That kind of info.

1000 yards? Really?

What you're talking about here (a .308 with a .224 bullet in a sabot) isn't much different than a .22-250, just a shade hotter.

Just a quick check in LoadBase tells me that a 50 gr (BC = .232) .224 V-max driven at 4000 fps (which is about what I expect to achieve in velocity) will go subsonic at 760 yards, and drops a mere 421.1 inches (35 feet) at 1000 yards. Maybe I need to get a tapered base to get that much elevation out of my optics?

I've used a .22-250 out to 600 yards on the KD, but what steam it had left was barely enough to take the paint of the 12x12" steel plate.

The "die" you're probably referring to is the one used to seat the .224 bullets into the sabot. I've not tried it yet, but it looks to be a much better alternative to stuffing bullets into plastic sabots by hand.

There's actually some information out on the internet regarding such loads. I've had plenty of projects ahead of this one, not to mention plenty of loaded .223 and .22-250 to go through at the local dog towns before it's likely I'll load up any .308 sabots. It'd be interesting to load some up in my .300 Weatherby as well, but I'm guessing it'll be far from practical.

Who makes the ready-to-load sabots with the bullets? Who makes the sabots? I've never looked for them in particular, but also don't ever remember seeing them in any reloading rags. Probably could achieve some velocity with them, but LR accuracy is a huge question to me......

Twice i have tried to work up accurate loads using the accelerator sabots in several .30-06 and .308 guns. The accuracy was never there. 2-3" groups at 100 yards does not a varmint round make.

Falcon....... I'm surprised. Given that kind of mis-accuracy . . . I may be better off just puttin' a .223 barrel on my Savage!

I used to see Accelerators from Remmington in 30-30, but haven't looked lately. I don't think they make them anymore. And if they do, might be seasonal.
The sabots I'm looking at are from Eabco.
http://www.eabco.com/store/products/...it-301-58.html
There are likely others.

... Reviewed the website you offered. Interesting. I stlll don't think you're going to hit MOY (Miute of yard) at anything past 200 yds. with them.

Now that was funny!

I have seen one article on them before and the accuracy was not better than an inch and a half at 100 yards, I would try getting a rifle made for such a bullet without a sabot. If you are really wanting to hit the thousand yard mark, get a better cartridge with a bullet of a very high b.c.

It depends on what kind of varmint, I suppose. As a kid, we used the old factory accelerators on coyotes with much success, and slightly less success on prairie dogs out to 300 yards. The last group I remember shooting with them was a shade under an inch at 100 yards.

But they weren't exactly cheap on a high school kid's after-school wages. Nevertheless, we'd carry a couple of them in a pocket during deer season to deal with an odd coyote here or there, not to mention the opportunity to fill a turkey tag without a 150-grain softpoint vaporizing it.

I haven't worked any loads up yet, but I don't have any expectations other than some day at least replicating the performance of the old factory loads.

Just something different to experiment with.

Remington made a 55 grain 30.06. I bought a box on ammoman.com I always wanted to know two things. What happens to the Sabot and does the round have any kind of rifling on it after it is shot?

I think he is correct with the MOA. Minute of ACRE!!!!!!!!!! :eek2: Just buy a .223 or 22-250 and be done with it or just load the 308 light and enjoy that.

The sabot falls off and no on the rifling. The rifling is on the sabot.

BTW: The US military developed an armor penetrating saboted round in 7.62mm caliber. The round did not work well when fired from machine guns. The sabots would sometimes break up and cause the penetrator to puncture the side of the gun barrel.

http://www.gunauction.com/search/dis...temnum=8697631

http://usmilitary.about.com/library/...cts/blslap.htm