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dixiedawg80 05-18-2009 07:48 AM

150 grain round nose in .270?
 
Does anyone now of any bullets made in round nose for 150 grain .270/6.8? Any help will be most appreciated!

DD

Bernie P. 05-19-2009 05:16 AM

RE: 150 grain round nose in .270?
 
I'm pretty sure Sierra has them.

dixiedawg80 05-19-2009 12:04 PM

RE: 150 grain round nose in .270?
 

ORIGINAL: Bernie P.

I'm pretty sure Sierra has them.
Thanks Bernie, actually sierra discontinued them but I have been able to find a few on some online auctions, so hopefully I'll win them.

DD

skb2706 05-19-2009 12:39 PM

RE: 150 grain round nose in .270?
 
I know plenty of guys use them and I have used them myself. They work and in some cases better than spitzer bullets. Unless you just have the need for some nostalgic ammo there really isn't a reason these days for shooting them...esspecially in the eastern half of the country.

Typewriters work......computers work better.

round nose bullets work....in most cases for medium game, spitzers work better.

Good luck and your best bet for finding them is in bulk from places like Midway or MidSouth.

dixiedawg80 05-20-2009 08:26 AM

RE: 150 grain round nose in .270?
 

ORIGINAL: skb2706

I know plenty of guys use them and I have used them myself. They work and in some cases better than spitzer bullets. Unless you just have the need for some nostalgic ammo there really isn't a reason these days for shooting them...esspecially in the eastern half of the country.

Typewriters work......computers work better.

round nose bullets work....in most cases for medium game, spitzers work better.

Good luck and your best bet for finding them is in bulk from places like Midway or MidSouth.
Your right SKB, what I'm looking for is a tough brush bullet. We just signed the lease on a new tract of land here in the NC blueridge mtns for deer hunting. The land is super thick and because of the terrain there will be no shots over 100 - 125 yards. The only rifle I have is my .270 so I want to work up a load for this type of hunting. Any suggestions?

Thanks,
DD

Bear Kodiak 05-20-2009 01:12 PM

RE: 150 grain round nose in .270?
 
It's an unproven fact that a round nose bullet is better than a pointed bullet for shooting through brush. Many studies have been done on this and all of them came out with the same conclusion...there are no consistentcies from study to study. With shots being under 150yds, I would go to a 150grn bullet of any make just to reduce bloodshot meatcompared toa higher velocity 130grn, as long as the 150 shot accurately. Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against round-nose bullets. I just don't think that a probable brush shot should be the main reason to load them.

Prairie Wolf 05-20-2009 01:40 PM

RE: 150 grain round nose in .270?
 
I have seen a few articles about this. There may be a theoretical advantage to using a slower heavier bullet. In real life, there isn't. You can't predict what a bullet will do going through brush.

Simply changing shape will have even less effect.

700xcr 05-20-2009 09:30 PM

RE: 150 grain round nose in .270?
 
Try reloading the Nosler 160gr. Partition Semi Spiter bullet with 54.5grs. of H4831sc, Nosler claims it will be around 2777fps.

dixiedawg80 05-21-2009 05:11 AM

RE: 150 grain round nose in .270?
 
Thanks to all for the suggestions!

Doe Dumper 05-21-2009 07:39 AM

RE: 150 grain round nose in .270?
 
Dixie... Hornady makes or made a 150 gr round nose. I seen a box last week at one of the local gun shops.

Pawildman 05-21-2009 08:48 AM

RE: 150 grain round nose in .270?
 
With the possible exception of maybe a 105 Howitzer, I wouldn't put much faith on ANY bullet wading through brush. Period.

bigbulls 05-22-2009 07:43 PM

RE: 150 grain round nose in .270?
 
There is no such thing as a brush bullet. If a bullet hits brush it WILL be deflected.

If you want a brush bullet then shoot a very fast .224 center fire. The only way to bust through brush is not to hit the brush in the first place and the smaller diameterthe bullet the better chance it has to get through.

Blackelk 05-25-2009 05:03 AM

RE: 150 grain round nose in .270?
 
Agrees with all that say no such thing as a brush bullet. Even a .54 caliber muzzle loader will deflect off twigs. Round nose bullets suffer in the retaining energy section passed 100yds. But if your shooting 100yds or under why not.

mt boy 05-25-2009 07:21 AM

RE: 150 grain round nose in .270?
 
What doe said, I know my brother use to use the hornadys years ago for bear anb had real good luck

dixiedawg80 05-27-2009 10:08 AM

RE: 150 grain round nose in .270?
 

ORIGINAL: bigbulls

There is no such thing as a brush bullet. If a bullet hits brush it WILL be deflected.

If you want a brush bullet then shoot a very fast .224 center fire. The only way to bust through brush is not to hit the brush in the first place and the smaller diameterthe bullet the better chance it has to get through.
I agree with you, I think it's unethical to take a shot through brush hoping the bullet makes it through. I'm looking for a bullet that will expand and make a good, solid killing shot at ranges under 150 yards without over-penetration. I thought the round nose might be good for this. Any suggestions?

Thanks to all!
DD

keyshunter 05-28-2009 03:27 AM

RE: 150 grain round nose in .270?
 
If you want to prevent "overpenetration", a 150 gr round nose .270 IS NOT the way to go. Most of the standard 150gr 270 bullets haverelatively stout construction and will penetrate deeply. Although a 150 will kill quite well, IMO for a whitetail, a 130 gr is a much better choice. My preference is a standard cup and core 130 gr bullet by Sierra, Hornady or Speer.

As an example: many years ago, one of my Pa. hunting buddies was an old timer who shot many Pa. whitetails with his iron sighted Remington 721 .270. He swore by the 150 gr.RN Remington Core Lokt. Although he was an excellent marksman, we chased almost every deer he shot. One we did not have to trail comes to mind: the average sized Pa. buck would have weighed about 125 lb. dressed. He shot it in the brisket as it walked toward him at about 40 yards. The bullet entered the brisket, went through the lungs, the guts, and broke the hip bone, pretty muchdestroying the hindquarter before it exited. I remember this deer, becauseit wasparticularly messy to dress.
Heused the same bullet onour annual Quebec moose trip. It did a very good job on moose.



Prairie Wolf 05-30-2009 11:25 AM

RE: 150 grain round nose in .270?
 
If over-penetration is a problem, what happens if you miss?

Generally, to reduce penetration, use the light for caliber bullets, they upset (expand) more due to higher speed and have less momentum to push through.



Pawildman 05-30-2009 04:30 PM

RE: 150 grain round nose in .270?
 
I guess I don't understand this "over penetration" talk. I've always wanted a bullet to do as much damage as possible, and that includes a gaping exit hole..... particularly on a broadside boiler room shot. I am definitely not of the school that believes a bullet should use up all it's energy and stay inside the animal.

Doe Dumper 05-31-2009 02:20 PM

RE: 150 grain round nose in .270?
 
Same here PA. I like them 130 grainers loaded warm..lol. In out and take half the insides with em.

Pioneer2 06-03-2009 11:09 AM

RE: 150 grain round nose in .270?
 
I picked up some old discontinued Dominion 160gr RN's and used them for for jumping deer out of their beds and shootin them on the fly.As luck would have it they hit real close to the same point of impact as the 130gr at 100 yards.They would drill through 3/4 of a deer lengthways...............Harold

driftrider 06-03-2009 01:49 PM

RE: 150 grain round nose in .270?
 


ORIGINAL: Pawildman

I guess I don't understand this "over penetration" talk. I've always wanted a bullet to do as much damage as possible, and that includes a gaping exit hole..... particularly on a broadside boiler room shot. I am definitely not of the school that believes a bullet should use up all it's energy and stay inside the animal.
That's just what I was thinking. I'd rather have a bullet make two holes than just one, so unless you're shooting deer in an apartment building, I wouldn't worry about it. You have to be sure of your backstop no matter how much the bullet might penetrate anyway. Two holes bleed more, collapse lungs faster and, in my experience given a similar wound location and angle, kill as fast or faster. That's why I'm a fan of Barnes bullets. They expand fast, create a large diameter mushroom, and retain very close to 100% of their weight which drives them right through no matter which way they go through the deer. The only down side is that I never find a cool mushroomed bullet to show my friends, but I can live with that.

Mike


driftrider 06-03-2009 01:58 PM

RE: 150 grain round nose in .270?
 
As for "brush busting bullets"... they are a pure myth. If your bullet hits a twig, it will deflect no matter how big it is or what shape it has. It's only a question of how much. I missed a shot at a deer across a creek bed because the 410 grain, .50 cal Great Plains FP conical bullet I shot at it glanced off a 3/8" tree branch. I say glanced because the branch was still dangling from after being hit, which is how I know I hit it. The shot was about 75 yards, with the deer about 15 yards past the branch. The bullet missed by about 10-15 FEET low and right. If a 410 grain .50 cal FP can get deflected that much by hitting less than 3/8" of tree branch, they a 150gr RN .277" bullet doesn't stand a chance. If I had a .270 I'd just stick with the tried and true 130 grain SP spitzers. If you want a heavier bullet, you could also try the 150gr Rem Core-Locks. This is what my brother uses from his .270 Win Rem 750 Woodsmaster and they are extremely effective on deer.

Mike

eldeguello 06-09-2009 05:21 AM

RE: 150 grain round nose in .270?
 

ORIGINAL: dixiedawg80


ORIGINAL: skb2706

I know plenty of guys use them and I have used them myself. They work and in some cases better than spitzer bullets. Unless you just have the need for some nostalgic ammo there really isn't a reason these days for shooting them...esspecially in the eastern half of the country.

Typewriters work......computers work better.

round nose bullets work....in most cases for medium game, spitzers work better.

Good luck and your best bet for finding them is in bulk from places like Midway or MidSouth.
Your right SKB, what I'm looking for is a tough brush bullet. We just signed the lease on a new tract of land here in the NC blueridge mtns for deer hunting. The land is super thick and because of the terrain there will be no shots over 100 - 125 yards. The only rifle I have is my .270 so I want to work up a load for this type of hunting. Any suggestions?

Thanks,
DD
There is no such thing as a "tough brush bullet". It has been proven many times that no bullet can be counted on to go thru brush! My suggestion is to shoot around vegetation obstructions, not thru it!

TJEN 06-09-2009 11:56 AM

RE: 150 grain round nose in .270?
 
One of the best white Tail bullets for 0-250 yrads is the remington 150gr CLRN. Its has lots of exposed lead at the tip scalopes and slits to provide extreamly fast expantion! And then it has as part of the corelokt feature very heavy midsection that stays together and just at the base tappers thin to make the corelokt.

Midway usa has these in stock and this one of the best performing 270win bullets there is out to say 275 yards.

Many people think you shoot brush with brush guns/bullets, NOT SO this refers to guns and bullets that perform best/better in the condition of hunting in brushy country. I have what I call my brush gun a marlin 336D in 35rem its killed deer &bear in brushy conditions where shots have been from 15 to 60 yards. Its only 38" long 6 lbs and wears a VXII 1-4x20mm with the largest FOV I know of. And I have shot no brush I am awhere of.

There is some simple facts of physics that help if brush is encounterd.
Medium velocity deflects less than higher velocity.
Heavier bullets with more mass deflect less than lighter bullets.
Bullets that have more of their momentum in mass kept their momentum better than one with more of it in velocity,and have better straight line momuntum.

Put all of these physical charictoristics together and you get the TIME PROVEN MEDIUM CAL, MEDIUM VELOCITY BRUSH CARTRIDGES THAT SIMPLE WORK. just some example are 35rem, 300sav, 30-30win.

skybuster20ga 06-09-2009 01:38 PM

RE: 150 grain round nose in .270?
 
maines pretty brushy. i like 35 cal pretty well and have had really good luck w/ the whelens and 350's and 06 all w/ heavy for caliber bullets. 250's 225's 220' round nose and spitzer. im looking foward to trying 250 noslers in the whelen this fall

TJEN 06-11-2009 12:11 PM

RE: 150 grain round nose in .270?
 
I have a 270win and can't say enough good things about. Its taken white tails, mule deer, and moose and impressivly at that.

But my go to guns are a 35 whelen, a 358win, and a 35rem and their ausome on game performance with surprisingly lower felt recoil than most lighter faster magnums. (350rem pretty much the same as the whelen).

skybuster20ga 06-12-2009 08:49 AM

RE: 150 grain round nose in .270?
 
TJEN, i may have asked you this before but cant remeber. what are you using for loads on big deer out of your whelen? (175-275lbs) im thinking i want to try the 250gr nosler PT but im worried i may not get enough expansion. i also was thinkin about loading up a mildly hot load for the 250gr hornady RN.......the re4son i say 250gr is cuz i have my 350 shooting 225's and i see it pointless to have two guns hurling the same projectile at about the same velocity. ive got 7 '06's and each one is shooting a different bullet of different weights.

claudester 11-23-2009 06:05 AM

Just wanted to comment that I have had much success using a 180 gr. rn with my .06 and the Winchester 130 gr. PP in my 270. the last three deer dropped where they stood with the 270s. All my shooting is between 65 and 80 yards. What I'd like to know is Where can I get 270 core-lokt 150 grain, RN or SP bullets. I have one box of store bought but I want to reload my own. I have looked all over the internet with no luck.
Thanks

TUK101 11-23-2009 05:15 PM

Remington has them too. I have some Core-Lokt shells that use a round nosed bullet in them. I am not sure if they sell them in bulk or not though. I didn't see any on Cabela's website.

270 bdl 12-05-2009 05:15 PM

Try 57 grs. of H-4831 with your 150's. Kills 'em dead.

TJEN 12-08-2009 11:52 AM

The remington 150gr 270 is about the best white tail bullet for shots out to 250 yards. It expands very quikly and still holds together for great penitration. It has lots of exposed lead at the tip seraions and slits than tapers to an heavy jacket mid-section.
It hits with a very autitable thud do to its round noise design.

In side of 250 yards there is no advantage to shootin any pointed bullet for trajectory there is no real differance till after 250-300 yards.

I should point out that brush guns arn't for shooting brush just for shooting in brushy areas. You will waist less meat with the 150 grain CLRN than the 130gr so

Stick to Remingtons CLRN or Hornadys RN interlock and you will be happy.


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