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Rifle Loony 05-19-2008 04:03 AM

RE: HOW DO YOU FIND BEST ACCURACY WHEN WORKING UP LOADS?
 
I've seen that avatar picture before...is your name Scott?

bigcountry 05-19-2008 05:57 AM

RE: HOW DO YOU FIND BEST ACCURACY WHEN WORKING UP LOADS?
 

ORIGINAL: Rifle Loony

I've seen that avatar picture before...is your name Scott?
Nope, name is Mark out of Westminster, MD. Come by and say hi one day.

Go to tradgang or tradtalk, or stickbow sites and you will see simular avatars showingpeople with a canted longbow profile. Why? Youwant to get into primitive archery?

bigcountry 05-19-2008 07:28 AM

RE: HOW DO YOU FIND BEST ACCURACY WHEN WORKING UP LOADS?
 

ORIGINAL: Ridge Runner

ya know, one thing that amazes me, there was a guy here before, he loved the 30/06, bragged on his 12 yo son, talked about stepping out the back door to his range and "swingin steel" and "chit", and claimed OCW was the best thing since sliced bread.
Wilds was the name, he was banned on may 3rd, Lo and behold on may 4th, rifle registers, talks about his love for the 30/06, his 12 yo son, stepping out his back door to his rifle range swingin steel, and OCW, think someone needs to run some IP numbers.
RR
I knew there was another guy who was pimping all this.

Rifle Loony 05-19-2008 07:30 AM

RE: HOW DO YOU FIND BEST ACCURACY WHEN WORKING UP LOADS?
 

ORIGINAL: Remnard

Do you try a lot of different powders or try a lot of different bullet brands, weights etc. I would usually pick a bullet and try different powders/charges.

How big an impact does different primers have on your loads?

How does different brass impact your loads?

What exactly is your process, if you have one.

How many rounds do you load for each combination?

Do you clean after each group? Or just each different powder?

Was justtrying to help this guy out, sorry for bothering you guys with that.

Pawildman 05-19-2008 09:43 AM

RE: HOW DO YOU FIND BEST ACCURACY WHEN WORKING UP LOADS?
 

ORIGINAL: bigcountry


ORIGINAL: Ridge Runner

ya know, one thing that amazes me, there was a guy here before, he loved the 30/06, bragged on his 12 yo son, talked about stepping out the back door to his range and "swingin steel" and "chit", and claimed OCW was the best thing since sliced bread.
Wilds was the name, he was banned on may 3rd, Lo and behold on may 4th, rifle registers, talks about his love for the 30/06, his 12 yo son, stepping out his back door to his rifle range swingin steel, and OCW, think someone needs to run some IP numbers.
RR
I knew there was another guy who was pimping all this.

There is no doubt in my mind that "Wilds" and RL are one in the same. Just couldn't take the hint from the last experience, huh??

Rifle Loony 05-19-2008 10:31 AM

RE: HOW DO YOU FIND BEST ACCURACY WHEN WORKING UP LOADS?
 
Gotta love those territorial internet bullies that enjoy a'holin' new members anddifferent ideas...

The gun crowd is a fun bunch toobserve when certain members of it are presented with something that disqualifies the time and money they've spent for so long. You see it in reloading, you see it in the rifles, pistols and shotguns they purchase, and you see it in the optical gear they tout as the best ever.

'Tis a real tough thing to justify a 1500 dollar euro scope purchase when they see folks doing theexact samething, and better,with a 300 leupold, and like here, it's just unfathomable for certain "experienced" reloaders to understand they've wasted so much time and money chasing loads.It's no better than 3rd graders beating each other up over who's dad is toughest. Congratulations, there are three posters on this threadwho've set that bar high. Wasn't until y'all started your BS that this discussion turned for the worse.

Stand back, thump your chests, and rock on, you're fun to watch........

thndrchiken 05-19-2008 12:16 PM

RE: HOW DO YOU FIND BEST ACCURACY WHEN WORKING UP LOADS?
 

ORIGINAL: Rifle Loony

So by your estimate, velocity is the sole key to accuracy, since you've mentioned that more than once...

Interesting.....

Wonder then, how I can work up sub MOA loads across a 145 degree change in anualtemperature, using powders considered temp sensitive, change lot numbers, use brass that is not sorted by weight or volume, with bullets that the vast majority of internet gurus consider inaccurate....but I am an example of only one.

Wonder also how Federal Gold Match can be so successful across such a wide dispersement of arms day in and day out, month after month, season after season.........I highly doubt they tweak powder charges at the change of the four seasons.

Simple laws of physics are sometimes very hard for some to grasp...
I'm really curious where he is that he's getting a 145' annual temperature swing and thinks he isn't getting variations in pressures and humidity levels.

Bye the way the ammunition manufacturers can blend their propellants to make them almost temperature insensitive and produce consistant pressures. The blends are never going to released as a handloading component. The closest you'll ever come is to geta manual like the Lyman # 47 which will give you a factory duplication load achievable with available components.

TJEN 05-19-2008 12:42 PM

RE: HOW DO YOU FIND BEST ACCURACY WHEN WORKING UP LOADS?
 
Hey I jumped to the end and just want to SIMPIFY any ones reloading.

You have to work up loads to find the max safe pressure in any gun. And as you do you will see which load actual produces the best accuracy. And if you do this at the max over all cartridge length that your gun allows and that may be 0.010" off the lands or what your Magazine length allows. Now you can shorten that OCL to see if you can get still yet better groups.

Itis that simple! Yes its just that simply!

In the case of a tube magazine you will have to crimp at the cannelure and yet contend with the listed max OCL that and that first best load will be about it. Next is to try a different powder.

Rifle Loony 05-19-2008 12:53 PM

RE: HOW DO YOU FIND BEST ACCURACY WHEN WORKING UP LOADS?
 

ORIGINAL: thndrchiken

I'm really curious where he is that he's getting a 145' annual temperature swing and thinks he isn't getting variations in pressures and humidity levels.

Have seen 110* hot in July, and -35* in February, that'd be 145* annual swing from one extreme to the other.

Have seen 75* above in December, and snow in June, as well.

Have seen it 60ish in the morning, and snow a foot and a halfby nightfall,on the same day.

But I don'tlive in Joisey either.....

SJAdventures 05-19-2008 01:10 PM

RE: HOW DO YOU FIND BEST ACCURACY WHEN WORKING UP LOADS?
 
Let's move on;)


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