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RCBS....again
I recently traded my 30-06 Encore pistol barrel for a .22-250 barrel. I've been reloading for about 25 years or so, and in that time I've done a few "things", like broke a few decapping pins , crushed a few cases, lube dents, and the like, but yesterday was a first. I managed to get a bag of new brass and an RCBS die set for the 22-250, and set the first die up. I had already re-sized, measured, trimmed and put into the tumbler about 8 or 9 cases when something went awry. Not being used to loading anything so small, I wasn't thinking when I pulled the handle on the press. I evidently didn't have the case securely seated in the shell holder when I pulled the handle, and I just completely ruined the resizing die.. The only thing that survived my error were three lock nuts and the die body. I swear I've felt more resistance when necking up cases for the larger calibers.
A quick call to RCBS and the lady I talked to said the replacement parts were on the way I didn't much have to tell her more than what I did, and give my address. (which I'm sure they have, I'm kinda bad about blowing O-rings on my Lubrisizer!) I'm still in awe as to the customer service some of these large companies provide! |
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Man, after all that, I still am not sure what happened. What happened to the sizing die? How did brass damage steel?
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I don't understand what he did either?? About the only way to damage an RCBS press and dies is to take a hammer to them...unless he stuck a case in the dies and ruined them trying to chisel it out.
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Not at all. The decapping pin ended up in a J shape, and the spindle that the neck expander screws intobroke. The brass didn't damage the spindle, the force of the ram did. I don't believe that I had the case all the way over in the shellholder.. Anyway, new parts are on the way.
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I can't believe the customer service... Wow. I'm glad that I just bought an RCBS press. Although I hope that I never have to use it.
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Maybe he forgot to change the shell holder and he got the shell in sideways.
That's the only thing I can figure. Most RCBS reps will tell you that the shell holder and the decap rod are not under warranty. I have sent my .300 Win Mag dies back so many times, I refuse to load for it anymore. |
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kinda weird i load a lot of 22-250 an use RCBS 10601 fl die set an have never had any problems (just a thought) but something could havebeen in the caseor did you pull the lever down to fast with the case off set an not in the holder all the way.I don't think it was the holder itself you said you allready did 8 or 9 cases
but in any case its nice to know RCBS is on the job an were fast to send you parts gota love for that |
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Yes they are a great company with great products which are guaranteed for life, no matter who owns them.
Spudrow from Missouri |
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ORIGINAL: bigcountry Man, after all that, I still am not sure what happened. What happened to the sizing die? How did brass damage steel? Yeah! How?? I have smashed CASES by not having them all the way into the shellholder, but the brass didn't harm the DIE...... I have bent some decapping rods, but the die body was OK. The shellholder for the .22/250 is the same one used for the .30/'06..... |
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OOPS! Never ment to say I hurt the die body.. or the shellholder. I do believe I can read well enough to know what shell holder I needed to use. I was using the same one that I use to load my 30/06 A.I.Maybe I can't type well, though.....What ducksmoker said was what happened. I wasn't paying attention. I did the damage on the case before the last one, and then just forced the other.... Anyway the parts came in and it's up and running again.
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It almost sounds to me like you had your decapping pin extended down too far initially. And from what I can assume the previous case was not in the shell holder properly and the pin did not line up with the flash hole and bent the decapping pin. (Which should have been caught following decapping inspection of the case.) The next case when going up - especially if not in the shell holder was enough to bend the spindle.
Another thing what it sounds like is that you may have been in a hurry and were rushing things which is taboo in reloading. IMO you should only reload when you have the time and no distractions. Not only can youcause damage to your equipment which you found out, but you can also cause damage to yourself of someone else as a result of a miscue like a double charge or something else. |
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New brass, no primers involved. Just prepping the brass to trim and clean. I always size, trim and clean new brass. As stated before, I wasn't paying too close attention. I wasn't in much of a hurry, just a careless mistake on my part. But the replacments came in, and now I'm waiting on a day that the wind is less that gale force to head to the range.
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Your not alone in the rod and ball damage . I have done the same thing when short cutting 308 to 243 to 22-250 . Just 2 kinds those whom have and those who will .
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