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Old 02-08-2008, 04:05 PM
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The 60 grain Nosler Partition is a good choice, if you choose to hunt with a 223 Remington. The cartridge and bullet is adequate to kill a deer. IMO it is marginal, but still effective. The 75 grain A-Max looks like it would also be a good choice.

I have shot several deer with the 60 grain Partition, but I have never recovered the bullet. But the deer made their normal 50-60 yard death run, and fell over dead. I will try shooting one this year with my new 22-250 and the 75 grain A-Max. Tom.
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Old 02-08-2008, 06:00 PM
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darbz18 go for it just practice good shot placement.

I have been using the .22 centerfires (hornet, 222, 223, 22-250)
with hornady45 gr to 55 gr sx bullets (the so called varmit bullets)
for 20 years and never had one go more than about 15 yards from point of impact.
(EVEN IF YOU HIT THE SHOULDER)IMO Head, neck, orBROAD side chest cavity
are the best shots for least amount of meat destruction (ANYshoulder hit is a
major waste of meat with the .22 center fires.) (NOTE the bruising in the pics.)
About 8 members ina club I was in (were 270 and 30-06 fans) til they
saw thedamageI was doing with the .22's now they shoot .22's. lol
here are some pics of one I took with my hornet broad side at 165 yards
WARNING GRAPHIC PICS
first pic is the entrance, second is the exit,jacket from the bullet was just under the
skin on exit side.
hand load 12.4 grains (296 win) 45 grain (hornady)(so calledvarmit)bullet 3000 fps
"http://s111.photobucket.com/albums/n147/rem250/?action=view&current=100_0622.jpg"
"http://s111.photobucket.com/albums/n147/rem250/?action=view&current=100_0623.jpg"

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Old 02-08-2008, 06:49 PM
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If you can wait for good shots & possibly pass on a deer because conditions weren't "right"
That's my problem. I'm not shooting deer broadside from a field. In the thick swamp or overgrown clearcut, that 250lb+ trophy may only give you a little to work with. You can hope he steps into the open and turns broadside, or you can plow a heavier bullet through any bones , muscle or cartlidge that stand in your way.
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Old 02-08-2008, 08:26 PM
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The 223 is not a marginal cartridge for deer. It's a bad caliber choice for marginal shot placement.
Now thats the best 2 sentences out of all the 223 debates!
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Old 02-09-2008, 09:01 AM
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ORIGINAL: Ridge Runner

if thats a problem barnes, then your right you shouldn't use it. when you get to the point that the opprotunity to be in the woods, enjoying all nature has to offer outweighs just killing a deer maybe you'll understand.
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Old 02-09-2008, 03:46 PM
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X2!
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Old 02-09-2008, 04:22 PM
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when you get to the point that the opprotunity to be in the woods, enjoying all nature has to offer outweighs just killing a deer maybe you'll understand.
Will using a 223 help me do that? Poor argument. And you know what, I work and have small children. I can't spend every waking moment in the woods. And I didn't say it's just killing a deer. I'm talking about what if the deer of your lifetime gives you that split second sneak peak?
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Old 02-09-2008, 07:22 PM
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Barnes, the 223 sure isn't a brush gun. No hot .22 is cause they are likely gonna blow up on first impact with anything. Something heavier and slower would give you better chance but I suspect you already know what works best for you.
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Old 02-09-2008, 07:36 PM
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Is there really such thing as a brush gun..maybe a M79 gernade launcher..
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Old 02-10-2008, 10:40 AM
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Hey
Even if you hit the shoulder bone they go through and do the same
amount of damage, 1-2 inches of penatration then massive destruction.

If you have shot a fox or yote with them them you know what they do
(about rip em in half)
JUST HAVE TOTHINK ABOUTTHAT (DAMAGE) INTRENALY ON DEER
CAUSE YOU CAN'T SEE IT EXTERNALY.
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