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RustyD02359 01-22-2008 07:26 AM

Fur (Fox) Friendly .270 90grHP load?
 
Just wondering if it is possible to load an easier hitting Varmint round to save the fur on Fox? I usually shoot IMR4350 55g-57r loads (also 4864)which is great for yotes cause bullet rarely exits. So what would be minimum I could use to get my 90 gr Sierra HP to expand like it should but try to minimize exit holes?

devil dog 01-22-2008 09:20 AM

RE: Fur (Fox) Friendly .270 90grHP load?
 
You could experiment with reduced loads to slow the velocity and expansion, range and accuracy will sufer to some extent, you could try cast bullits, would be enough to kill and if it did exit it wouldnt be much bigger than the entrance.My thoughts are, as thin skinned and small size animal, a 270 is too much gun if your not wanting to destroy the pelt.

Pavomesa 01-22-2008 10:30 AM

RE: Fur (Fox) Friendly .270 90grHP load?
 
You've got a serious mismatch with gun and prey if you want to save a pelt. I've seen 270s with cast bullets leave an exit wound you can stick your head into. I think a 22 Mag would be about what you want...or one of the hot .224s like a 223 shooting FMJs. But it's going to be hard to keep a 270 from just cutting the little fox in half.

RustyD02359 01-23-2008 07:18 AM

RE: Fur (Fox) Friendly .270 90grHP load?
 
I was hoping to get lucky but I am hunting coyotes and fox are incdental. I pass some but some I just have to shoot.

Pavomesa 01-23-2008 09:59 AM

RE: Fur (Fox) Friendly .270 90grHP load?
 
Rusty, going to lighter bullets is going the wrong way if you want to try and avoid their explosive impact. You might find a heavy jacketed 150 gr bullet that would go through these light animals without doing much damage. A 270 is just not a great gun for saving the pelts.

RustyD02359 01-23-2008 10:20 AM

RE: Fur (Fox) Friendly .270 90grHP load?
 
Yeah, I might have to try some of my big bullets.

goatbrother 01-23-2008 01:50 PM

RE: Fur (Fox) Friendly .270 90grHP load?
 
Boy, I don't know, the 270 is a lot of gun for a fox, it's a lot of gun for coyote too. I've only killed two coyote with 270, one a broadside shot at about 100 yds with 150 Hornady blew an 8" hole in the far side, not fur friendly. A 22 Hornet might be good or 17 Rem. Or a rimfire.

RustyD02359 01-23-2008 02:53 PM

RE: Fur (Fox) Friendly .270 90grHP load?
 
.90 gr HP work great for Big Eastern Coyotes. I have no exits so far.

Pavomesa 01-23-2008 03:35 PM

RE: Fur (Fox) Friendly .270 90grHP load?
 
If you're getting no exits with 90 gr, then it's totally blowing up inside, although I can hardly believe it's not still exiting. At any rate, your problem seems to be solved.

RustyD02359 01-23-2008 04:32 PM

RE: Fur (Fox) Friendly .270 90grHP load?
 
Thats for coyotes. Lookes like insides went thru a blender.

Pavomesa 01-23-2008 05:06 PM

RE: Fur (Fox) Friendly .270 90grHP load?
 

ORIGINAL: RustyD02359

Thats for coyotes. Lookes like insides went thru a blender.
It did.

Doe Dumper 01-23-2008 05:26 PM

RE: Fur (Fox) Friendly .270 90grHP load?
 
LOL I know how frangible most 130's are from a 270...I cant imagine shooting anything with a 90 gr and not expecting to totally destroy it. Shot a groundhog with a 70 grain from a 243 once...hehehehe...it was a sight to behold..

RustyD02359 01-23-2008 07:31 PM

RE: Fur (Fox) Friendly .270 90grHP load?
 

ORIGINAL: Pavomesa


ORIGINAL: RustyD02359

Thats for coyotes. Lookes like insides went thru a blender.
It did.
Now that theres funny!

Loads are designed to expand at a certain distance when it strikes certain densities. Match the load and you have a match made in heven.

eldeguello 01-24-2008 08:31 AM

RE: Fur (Fox) Friendly .270 90grHP load?
 

ORIGINAL: RustyD02359

Just wondering if it is possible to load an easier hitting Varmint round to save the fur on Fox? I usually shoot IMR4350 55g-57r loads (also 4864)which is great for yotes cause bullet rarely exits. So what would be minimum I could use to get my 90 gr Sierra HP to expand like it should but try to minimize exit holes?
Anyload, with any bullet, that develops much over 2000 FPS will destroy the pelt. I would try a HARD cast lead alloy bullet at a MV of 1300-1400 FPS. These will exit t least on broadside shots, but exit holes will not be too big!

redgreen 01-24-2008 01:47 PM

RE: Fur (Fox) Friendly .270 90grHP load?
 
I found that the 130's 140's and the 150's out of the 270 will blow a yote to pieces. If fox is on the agenda,I'd be following Ridge Runners advice, and get myself a 22 magnum. BTW, a 22 magnum will flatten a yote with authority too. The 22 hornet is an excellent round for them too. Dunno how many I have shot with that, and they fold up like a blanket.


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