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hunter5325 12-28-2007 07:38 PM

25-06 and Ballistic tip's on game
 
Well I swore I'd never use the BT's again after a couple bad performances on mulies out of my 30-06, but my new 25-06 loves the 100 grainers over H4350 at 3400fps. I'm an Accubond and Interbond man but they just won't shoot in this setup. This will be my dedicated deer and lope load. I'm just a little worried about lack of penetration. I'll try and stay away from large bones but the perfect broadside, as we all know, doesn't always present itself.

If anyone has any field experience with the .257 100 grainers I would really appreciate the feedback.

Thanks, Brett


Bluegunner 12-28-2007 10:02 PM

RE: 25-06 and Ballistic tip's on game
 
Try loading a Barnes TripleShock in either a 100gr BT or 115gr FB. Push either along with Hodgens H1000 and I'll be willing to beat that you will like the results. With Barnes solid copper bullet you won't have to worry about lack of penetration. The H1000 is the ideal powder for pushing a bullet out of the 25-06 case.

Pioneer2 12-29-2007 07:04 AM

RE: 25-06 and Ballistic tip's on game
 
Your about to start a war with the ballistic tip fans.[again] My buddy used the same bullet in his 25-06 on deer and antelope and the meat damage was horendous.People are attracted to them as they are very accurate buttoo fragile under 100yardsfor me.....................Harold

rem 700 12-29-2007 09:18 AM

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That would be a good long range load, but I wouldn't like it under 150yds or so...at that velocity they'd surely break up easily on bone. Not saying it won't kill, but the damage to meat would likely be heavy. I personally haven't used the 100gr BT on deer. Regular soft points, such as core-lokt, do the job fine but I'm still a fan of the heavier 120s. My vote would be to save those loads for antelope, find something heavier and slower for deer.

devil dog 12-29-2007 10:21 AM

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I stay away from the B Ts in my 25-06 for the simple reason I lost a good buc one evening due to the lack of penetration, the thin skin jacket and low amount of lead didnt do the job!. I found the buc the next morning on the river bank about a half mile from were I shot it, still very much living, as it was getting up I shot it again with my 30-06 " 180gr B Ts" and it droped dead in its tracks. After retreiving it from the other side, I found both entrance holes within 1/4", until that shot I had always used 120gr PSPs and have gone back to them for the 25-06, but still use B Ts in my 30-06 and 300win mag. Over the summer Im going to start experimenting with the Barnes Tripple Shock, a few of my freinds have had good sucsesses with them this year.

Pioneer2 12-30-2007 10:02 AM

RE: 25-06 and Ballistic tip's on game
 
I load for my son's Ruger 77 MKII 25-06 and he took a 3pt bull elk at over 400 yards with 54gr H4831SC/Win cases/Fed Mag primers under a 120HP Hornady.This took out a rib going in and took one with it exiting.Also Nosler Partition 115gr/RE22 54gr /Fed Mag primers and WIn brass is a killer.We used 100 Hornady's for one season on deer but found them too explosive1{killed fine but meat damage excessive]......Harold

Swampdog 12-31-2007 07:30 AM

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I usually use Hornady btsp interlocks 120 gr. I had a Brownie A- bolt in 25-06 and used Winchester PXP (positive expanding point)bullets I really liked those .Wish I could get that projectile for all calibers.

backyardreloader 12-31-2007 06:54 PM

RE: 25-06 and Ballistic tip's on game
 
ive had really good luck with the innerbond and accubond. i have better luck with the accubond at 3100 to 3200 feet per second. im one that dont like to track so ill take a sholder out and they all have droped in there tracks.

rbullom 01-05-2008 12:27 PM

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Experience with the 100 BT out of the 25-06? Yes...but not on speed goats or deer. I keep a few loaded up for varmits. It's a great whistle pig combo. Aim at the seam between the pig and the rock they are sitting on and watch them rise to the sky. I've owned a 25 for 15 years, taken antelope (speed goats), mule deer and elk with it. But I don't use the BT for that and would recommend you try something else. I used the 117 Sierra for the first 10 years with IMR 4831, 4350 and H4831 and found all to work well with F210 primers. The last 4 or 5 years I've tried several different bullets. Barnes didn't work for me in this gun. Have you triedRL22 with Federal 210 GM primers and the 110 Accubonds? That's working well for me now It didn't seem to dial in with the 4831's. I'm loading 54.0 gr. Max OL is set 15/1000 off the lands @ 3.260 in my 700 Classic and shooting 5/8" groups. If you can get this bullet to shoot in your new gun I think you'll have allot more confidence in the load when it's time to shoot a deer of speed goat.

hunter5325 01-07-2008 04:32 PM

RE: 25-06 and Ballistic tip's on game
 
rbullom- Yeah, I have an Accubond load for the 25 but I haven't seen the velocity I'm lookin for. I seem to lose accuracy as soon as I pass 3100fps with most all powders. Brett

rbullom 01-07-2008 07:12 PM

RE: 25-06 and Ballistic tip's on game
 
When I've cranked the heavier bullet loads much higher I had pressure signs. The BC on the accubond is pretty good so even at the 3100 your're still looking pretty good at 3-4 hundred with sustained velocity and bullet drop. We haven't taken an elk with this load yet but did take a couple with 140 accubonds out of a 270 this year. I found one of themunder the skin in the opposite shoulder and weighed the bullet. It weighed right at 100 grains and leafedback like flower petals. Keep in mind that pushing the velocity too high causes severe meat damage at the closer distances. 3100 is really a good muzzle velocity for leaving something to eat when you done and getting good performance out of the bullet unless you can get the barnes or some other really high grade bullet like the lazzeroni's to shoot. Problem I've had with those in my hunting guns is the olgive makes the bullet so long I can feed them out of the magazine without seating them so deep it defeats the purpose of seating them right on the lands like a berger. The BT's at close range will break into pieces at close range if they hit bonewith the 3400fps.

redgreen 01-11-2008 03:55 PM

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Bring your metal detector to the table with you when you sit down to eat. They are one of the most accurate bullets out there, but the ballistic tips explode on game. I have found jacket fragments in the backstraps of deer when hit with the 25 06, the 300 and the 270 on heart/lung hits. Pick a big one to shoot, because there is gonna be a massive area of destruction.

stubblejumper 01-12-2008 11:02 AM

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Just place your shot behind the shoulder and you will get a quick clean kill with very little lost meat.

GooseHunter Jr. 01-12-2008 10:02 PM

RE: 25-06 and Ballistic tip's on game
 
I shoot them out of my .257 Roberts and they work fine. I took a antelope at 205 yards and it darn near took it's head off.

oldelkhunter 01-13-2008 06:35 AM

RE: 25-06 and Ballistic tip's on game
 

I shoot alot of the 115's out of my 25 wssm at 3000 fps and theres not a better deer load around, out of 8 deer shot with them they all exited, shoulder shots, quartering away didn't matter it went through.
RR

Most guys that I speak to say to use the 100 grain in the 25-06 yet other people including yourself use the 115 grainer. I think the heavier bullet is the way to go. Otherwise it's just a 6mm Rem mag with a 100 grain bullet and less SD. I'll have to try them ..right now I am using factory ammo in the one I just bought and it is doing fine but I have to handload this thing for next year.

Palladin8 01-13-2008 11:05 PM

RE: 25-06 and Ballistic tip's on game
 
I have used the Barnes 100gr XLCs with great results. They were pretty accurate but I am told the Triple shock is even better. I have yet to try them but am planing on loading them for my .280AI when it arrives.

devil dog 01-15-2008 07:39 PM

RE: 25-06 and Ballistic tip's on game
 
Got to thinking about this post the other night, its been four or five years since my 25-06 has even been out of the safe!. I pulled it out last night and put a scope on it andbore sighted it, got finished in the shop early so I put up a target, sat down on the bench and fired off a few rounds. WOW, I forgot how fun this rifle was to shoot!, walked down to the target and found one hole, after aclose look, both shots were through the same hole, just a slight half moon on the top left side!. walked back to the bench, came up four inches and left one inch, shot another three shots, two were in the same hole and one up and to the left a quarter inch, theese shots were with Nosler100gr BTs, not too shabby!. I guess Ill have to keep the cob-webs off of it and start useing it agan.

petrey10 01-16-2008 06:58 AM

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go with Nosler and you will not regret it.


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