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woodyplacks 06-29-2007 04:50 PM

norinko 7.62X39 steel bullets
 
Greetings, I noticed in my ammo supply a few boxes of loaded 762x39 norinko brand copper washed steel bullet ammunition. This stuff is new in the box, and I`m wondering what it is worth. I understand that they no longer make steel bullets. I once heard them referred to as armor piercing, but you couldn`t proove it by me................Thanks.:eek:

falcon 06-29-2007 08:22 PM

RE: norinko 7.62X39 steel bullets
 
That is the stuff that was banned from import during the Klinton administration.

HighDesertWolf 06-30-2007 03:44 AM

RE: norinko 7.62X39 steel bullets
 

ORIGINAL: falcon

That is the stuff that was banned from import during the Klinton administration.
actually it was banned during the Bush Sr. adminastration just had to correct ya.

HighDesertWolf 06-30-2007 03:52 AM

RE: norinko 7.62X39 steel bullets
 
I have a couple hundred rounds of the same stuff. some people think its armor piercing so in some cases the stuff will bring a nice price tag. I personally dont think these have any real AP capabilities a soft point 308 will penetrate further than these will. The only reason they were made with steel cores was the cost of manufacture steel core ammo tended to be cheap to make thats why most of your commy countries made steel bullets. about all these are good for are starting fires in dry climates. but asfar as what their worth ive seen them going for anywhere from $10 to $20 per 20 rounds. I personally am waiting for someone to come along and give a dollar a shot for all 400 of them. with that I could go and buy 3 cases of some newer production stuff like golden tiger or hot shot and have some good plinkin ammo on hand.

eldeguello 07-01-2007 05:43 AM

RE: norinko 7.62X39 steel bullets
 

ORIGINAL: woodyplacks

Greetings, I noticed in my ammo supply a few boxes of loaded 762x39 norinko brand copper washed steel bullet ammunition. This stuff is new in the box, and I`m wondering what it is worth. I understand that they no longer make steel bullets. I once heard them referred to as armor piercing, but you couldn`t proove it by me................Thanks.:eek:
During wartime when copper and other metals are scarce, many countries have used steel for bullet jacket material and also for cartridge cases.

Mild steel bullet jackets won't harm the bore, and mild steel is also OK for cases, if they can be kept from rusting. Plating or a lacquer finish helpds in this regard. However, those bullets are NOT AP. There may be some 7.62X39mm AP ammo, but personally I would not waste a tungsten core in that caliber of ammo.

During WWII, a lot of .45 ACP ammo was made in USA with steel jackets. Currently, some of the WOLF brand ammo made in Russia has steel cases, just like the Russian government uses for their military ammo. It is quite satisfactory for battlefield use.

Knightia 07-01-2007 04:30 PM

RE: norinko 7.62X39 steel bullets
 

ORIGINAL: HighDesertWolf


ORIGINAL: falcon

That is the stuff that was banned from import during the Klinton administration.
actually it was banned during the Bush Sr. adminastration just had to correct ya.
If im not mistaken -I believe you will find in was clintoon who banned the import of ALL chinese firearms& ammo( steel core or not)in 94( i hear he didnt get enough in bribes from the chicom firearm/ammo factorys& those they represented to continue a relationship)

What bush sr( in 89) & clintoon( in 94( along with the brady bill in 94?) added to& banned where various firearms from import -claiming they where assult type firearms etc - under the federal firearms act ( the assult weapons ban?) Two diffent laws i think in this case here .

But i could be mistaken in some of the details involved(as my memory seems to get worse everyday)

But i do remember the last case of steel core chinese i bought( brand china jing an equipment imp/exp corp) as i still have half a case of that & the chinese sks,s& chinese toc pistols i bought before clintoon banned there import into this country.

Offically of course he gave other reasons for these actions...;)

And obviously the current adminastration continuese to have the same import ban in effect on chinese firearms& ammo itself- that clintoon started in 94- for whatever there reasons are.



Knightia 07-01-2007 05:37 PM

RE: norinko 7.62X39 steel bullets
 

I understand that they no longer make steel bullets. I once heard them referred to as armor piercing, but you couldn`t proove it by me................Thanks.
Oh they still make it( and so do others)i dont have much doubt- it just cant be imported in from china.
And i do remember reading at the time of its ban- billions of rounds ammo& firearms sitting on ships in california etc- waiting to be unloaded- and rumors coming from the white house etc &that it was steelap ammo & a pistol type weapon was being designed to fire said ammo& said ammo would shoot threw all vests etc*& where like( but worse)the othercop killer bullets out there that they(clintoon& cronies)where trying to ban to save America from itself.

Now the S korean 30.06 steel core bullets& brass cased -cases of ammo i got not to long ago & made & packed for the M1- dosnt fit in my savage 30.06 for do/do-( they must not be following sammi? civilian specs at there korean factory)- i still have to figure out to do with all that.

But if anyone wants to buy half a case of steel core chinese( or korean even ) for $10 per 20 or a dollar a round even id be glad to sell im mine too:D

HighDesertWolf 07-01-2007 07:59 PM

RE: norinko 7.62X39 steel bullets
 

ORIGINAL: Knightia


I understand that they no longer make steel bullets. I once heard them referred to as armor piercing, but you couldn`t proove it by me................Thanks.
Oh they still make it( and so do others)i dont have much doubt- it just cant be imported in from china.
And i do remember reading at the time of its ban- billions of rounds ammo& firearms sitting on ships in california etc- waiting to be unloaded- and rumors coming from the white house etc &that it was steelap ammo & a pistol type weapon was being designed to fire said ammo& said ammo would shoot threw all vests etc*& where like( but worse)the othercop killer bullets out there that they(clintoon& cronies)where trying to ban to save America from itself.

Now the S korean 30.06 steel core bullets& brass cased -cases of ammo i got not to long ago & made & packed for the M1- dosnt fit in my savage 30.06 for do/do-( they must not be following sammi? civilian specs at there korean factory)- i still have to figure out to do with all that.

But if anyone wants to buy half a case of steel core chinese( or korean even ) for $10 per 20 or a dollar a round even id be glad to sell im mine too:D
you heard about the shipment of new AK's and ammunition that china tried to send to the insurgents in Iraq didnt ya? I also was talkin to a friend of mine that just come back from the sand box and during our conversation I had asked about what kind of ammo they were finding among the insurgents and he told me it was mostly chicom and some russian stuff.

Knightia 07-01-2007 08:50 PM

RE: norinko 7.62X39 steel bullets
 

ORIGINAL: HighDesertWolf


ORIGINAL: Knightia


I understand that they no longer make steel bullets. I once heard them referred to as armor piercing, but you couldn`t proove it by me................Thanks.
Oh they still make it( and so do others)i dont have much doubt- it just cant be imported in from china.
And i do remember reading at the time of its ban- billions of rounds ammo& firearms sitting on ships in california etc- waiting to be unloaded- and rumors coming from the white house etc &that it was steelap ammo & a pistol type weapon was being designed to fire said ammo& said ammo would shoot threw all vests etc*& where like( but worse)the othercop killer bullets out there that they(clintoon& cronies)where trying to ban to save America from itself.

Now the S korean 30.06 steel core bullets& brass cased -cases of ammo i got not to long ago & made & packed for the M1- dosnt fit in my savage 30.06 for do/do-( they must not be following sammi? civilian specs at there korean factory)- i still have to figure out to do with all that.

But if anyone wants to buy half a case of steel core chinese( or korean even ) for $10 per 20 or a dollar a round even id be glad to sell im mine too:D
you heard about the shipment of new AK's and ammunition that china tried to send to the insurgents in Iraq didnt ya? I also was talkin to a friend of mine that just come back from the sand box and during our conversation I had asked about what kind of ammo they were finding among the insurgents and he told me it was mostly chicom and some russian stuff.
I hear ya. No doubt the world & many of its its various countrys are stuffed full of ruski& chinese military hardware& goods- including small arms& ammo.

Knightia 07-01-2007 10:13 PM

RE: norinko 7.62X39 steel bullets
 
So i have to ask- what does that have to do with whats being said here?



Till The day they sell( what we are legally allowed to own of course)Ar,s, ak,s akms( and m 14 copys)-sks,s & ammo etc etcincluding made in both china& russia at every local walmart in this country is the day i will think some progress is being made in this country.;)


But of course that isnt going to happen- mostwalmarts havegotten rid of there pistols sales( if they ever had any)& others just stoped selling firearms period.(all in the marketing plans i guess)


"They" would rather we ( buy)play badmitten& lawn bowling & horseshoes etc& buy frizbees for our dog i think instead .

You dont even have to be excourted out of store yet by employes after buying flamable liquids,lighters knifes sets, hammers or horseshoes etc

I bet a horseshoe could do some real damage traveling at 50+ miles per hour.;)


Knightia 07-02-2007 12:37 AM

RE: norinko 7.62X39 steel bullets
 
Heres one that puzzles me some ( maybe its just myfuzzy memory at work?)

We arm train dayly, hand out firearms& ammo- give armsto thousands of iraqies- and then hope they wont be used aginst our own ppl.....

We go into a place like new orleans( was there marshall law?) &go into ppls houses who have commited no crimes& are U s citizens & confascate there firearms- ( in the name of civil order?)

Or maybe thatis not true?

My son will be discharged from the army in dec it will be 8 yrs infor him- with many vist to us military prisons& from&,to turkey ,kuait,bosnia, afganastain etc- & alsostationed in germany in 01.

We have missed a wholelot of hunting together( he is *&will be looking for a job in the midwest& issending out resumes etc)

I dont think there will beany hunting anytime soon together tho....But at least one more time id like to go elk hunting with him &at least( and at least 3 yrs ago we didspend2 nites fishing for trout near the dam in Wytogether for a few hrs)

( and itdidnt involved any fish with tiny mutant legs;))


I am delighted we sent us sholder firedmissles to shoot down russian aircraft in afganistain[:-]to etcetc ( it seems we(the ruski,chi,& others( iran , N korea etc)) have been doing these things a long longtime now.(we are suppose to pretend these things are secret or dont take place?:eek:)
Somedays i can see where my enemys enemy is my friend- things can change.

But i dont think the cold war(with either russia or china)is over myself yet- notby a longshot [:-];)


Not to long ago didnt the china hijack a us military aircraft out of the air& refuse to give it back till disected/studied in detail?

As i heard now- With the icbms& nutron bombs etc they have now - made avalable by the clintoon admin blunders, bribes& spy games- they could do some real damage.

We shall see i guess...


You know they threatened to nuke us those ruskito in the past- under our school desks - all the while we sent them massive amounts of US corn ,wheat etc- while they built there missle forces& military up?

Funny how things work sometimes.

eldeguello 07-03-2007 01:37 PM

RE: norinko 7.62X39 steel bullets
 
You dont even have to be excourted out of store yet by employes after buying flamable liquids,lighters knifes sets, hammers or horseshoes etc

I bet a horseshoe could do some real damage traveling at 50+ miles per hour.;)

Yes! And what about those dastardly pointed kitchen knives?
At least Tony Blair knew enough to try to ban them in the U.K. along with handguns!


Knightia 07-04-2007 10:58 PM

RE: norinko 7.62X39 steel bullets
 

Yes! And what about those dastardly pointed kitchen knives?
At least Tony Blair knew enough to try to ban them in the U.K. along with handguns!

:DYes i heard about them trying to ban pointy objects there.

Its to bad about those brits- at one time they had few restrictions on there firearms& freedomsto.

I would suggest to themon this 4th of july daythat -maybe a little revolt& protestmight be in order.

But when your just a subject in a king(queen)dom & have been disarmed in the name of public safety etc& areunder the watchfull eye of the nanny goverment 24/7 -thatmight be kinda hard to do.;)

Self defence of ourself& ourfamilys is a human right- and is not something ourgoverments can allow & grant us , give us or take away i think- either here or there - including defence aginst the goverment who thinks they are our keepers.

Knightia 07-07-2007 09:45 PM

RE: norinko 7.62X39 steel bullets
 
A old US made 50. cal steel core bullet( top) (its a lill rusty on the back end )& a case& link i found in the rattlesnake mtn range in& around some property of ours while out hunting & walking about.

( im kindaglad there still not fallingout ofthe air out there;))



Knightia 07-07-2007 09:58 PM

RE: norinko 7.62X39 steel bullets
 
Yes Pardon my getting sidetracked & maybe a lil offsubject at times here;)

The army air corps etc in ww2 trained in& around the general area i live /hunt now the various air crews etci believe ( if im remembering right Chuck Yager had to bail out over the area one doing just that here to)


( found some even older( but undated)30. goverment cases down by the river- another day, no pict)



cataway 07-29-2007 04:42 PM

RE: norinko 7.62X39 steel bullets
 
my AR does not work with that army stuff ,the primer is to hard . i put a JP trigger in and theirs not enough hammer speed and weight to set them off. they work in my mini 30 but not as well as what i load my self.
the JP is sweet


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