What would be the highest bidyou would place on this if you wanted a gooddiscount??Plus they want 35$ shipping. Thanks again for the help all.
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-RCBS-ROCK-CHUCKER-SUPREME-MASTER-RELOADING-KIT_W0QQitemZ290061255476QQihZ019QQcategoryZ71120Q QrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

After looking arond for the same item, I guess it isn't a good deal. More expensive after shipping.
http://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/item.asp?sku=000449357

I do not know about the price. But it looks like a great kit. I have noticed on e-bay that RCBS goes higher than Lyman. Or any other equipment. I bought a Turret on E-bay for $35, and it was like new. And it is a fantastic press. Tom.

lead,
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[/align]It's getting real close to new considering any shipping or anything extra. Here's a link to a new kit "on sale" for $224.00 at Natchez Shooter's Supply.
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[/align]I'd base any bids on this link, or any cheaper offers, as well as like I said, extra other costs.[/align][/align]PS-I just checked the link (little late) you had to Midsouth SS. $219.00 is an excellent price, and it's even better than NatchezSS, which I posted. Ebay auctions get real stupid sometimes and folks need to do research (like you) before they bid. Good luck....you're doing it the smart way.[/align][/align]
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Let me be the one to offer a counter point to buy the best you can afford.

When I left the army to go to college some 30 years ago I was going to loose the use ofthe army suppied reloading equipment (the 6th MTU)and had to buy a set for myself but as new college student I was really strapped for cash and some of my competitive shooting buddies lauged at what I bought. I got a lee reloader press, a lee case trimmer and a plastic lyman scale and a lee autoprime.

30 years later I still use the autoprime and and the hand trimmer(well everyso oftenI need a new cutter for the trimmer). I have a new press and an autoscale but the original lee pressand plastic lyman are still on the bench and stilll work fine. I reload mostly for rifle and 44 mag and I guess to do about 800-1500 rounds a year. Although there wasa few yearsI did 2-4K a year. Except for a few things like a good caliper its not equipment that will make good loads. its a good understanding of the princpals and understanding whichvariables are most important inwhat point of load developmentand error free execution that aremost important.

One thing about equipment, wether its cheap or expensive. it has to be to specs andworking correctly. I once got a set of dies that were incorrectly labeled/boxed and it caused me no end of difficulty. It should have been a 338-06 AI die set.. thats what the box set said, but the dies were really 338-06. accuracy was so-so but I couldn't fit the right amount of powder in, resizing was hell, I almost sent the gun back to the gunsmith with a complaint about his chamber etc. I wasted a whole summer before I figured about what was happening.

Oh, follow all those little safety rules, there important

Thank you.I been reading what I could find on line and haven't found much selection at the gunshop I stopped in today. They had the same kits but for 60$ more and only had couple manuals I picked up. If you think I can't get much better deal than midway,I will go ahead and order that kit tonight.I will have to see if they got the dies that I need for my rifles.I got plenty of 7mms and 30-06 and 243 all so the 30-30 brass from over the years.They are a bit tarnished so I need recomendation on a tumbler to shine them up,if anyone could. And if you or someone could point me in the right direction to get brass for a 22-250. I am getting a cheap 22-250 Howa for cristmas. I wanted the 26 inch barrel but for the price of a 24 inch, I will try it and go from there. Again thanks for the info and help.

If there may be kids near it needs to be in a room or shed that can be locked!

I am counting on them to learn with me as I am learning myself. Our guns are not locked away and neither will this be. If a child is not curious there is less chance of a mishap.But they are old enough to know and understand of the dangers.Quite mature for their ages I might have to say all so.

Lead P,

Do your kids have friends?? Like you, I brought my kids up to know and respect guns and what goes with them. Unfortunately, not everyone does that and one of your kids buddies might be a little currious. Lock your stuff up, S-happens and besides the tragedy that might happen, some lawyer will make you pay for the rest of your life if you leave stuff out.

Doug

PS: Funny (to me) story, My youngest daughter and I went shooting-(she picked up the brass), she was maybe 5-6. Since I reload, I had shown and explained how a bullet worked and what made it dangerous. On the way home we stopped @ a 7-11 for aSlurpee and being a young child she wanted to pay for her own. Imagine the surprise on the middle eastern clerk when she slapped her pocket full of change on the counter including a couple of spent 45acps she had stuck in her pocket. The guy started jabbering so she started to explain to him that there was no danger and why, the guy behind me thought it was priceless...It never happened again tho..

Doug,
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[/align]NOW THAT"S FUNNY ! I'd have crapped my pants laughing at the look on the clerk's face.
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[/align]I don't lock up my guns or shop either. Yes, your kids friends would be the problem area's to consider, I agree. Where we live, that's not an issue so much. As a police firearms instructor I taught this stuff for many years to hundreds of officers. What caused me to change my curriculum to include these classes was the fact that many officer's were leaving their guns loaded (dumb) at home, and there were several news stories where officer's kids had been killed with their guns.
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[/align]Like it was mentioned, curiosity is the biggest reason why incidents happen in the home. The two schools of thought regarding guns in the house, the"keep guns out of the home/away from kids", or "to teach kids about guns & gun safety", are an either/or mentality when dealing with guns around kids. I agree with the latter, and so does the majority of the law enforcement community.
[/align]Yes, keep your guns and ammo locked up, is the mindset, but introduce your children to guns with safety as a prime factor. Take them out to shoot them when they start to inquire, and if you tell them you will take them out this Sat., do it. Let them know that you haven't forgotten them, and that you're fully intent to make a day of shooting with them.
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[/align]If they know that they can shoot those guns only when they're with you, but are not to touch them without you being there, it'll remove the curious "stigma" attached to it and removes that veil of the unknown.
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[/align]It's the parent's who say, "Don't you EVER touch them", or who do promise to take them out, but just never seems to find the time, these are issues that supportor allow that curiosity to build to a point whereit can become dangerous. My kids are now older, and my youngest is 12, but they know that all they have to do is ask, and at the next possible opportunity, if not right then, we'll be out at the bench firing.
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[/align]Their friend's are a very valid point, and I'd guess, that in mostaccidental shootings, they probably are a major component. I think that locking guns in safes is a good idea, and/or the ammo too, but in this house I haven't gotten one (safe)yet. Other than the "friends" issue (which I mentioned isn't a big problem here-we live out in the sticks) it is a real issue in many homes, especially with little kids & even teenagers & their friends.
[/align]The old instructor in me has drummed this into my kids heads regarding their guns, and is a major no-no.
[/align]My reasons for a safe are more for burglar (guns & valuables) and fire protection, but the neighbors know I am well armed, and I think that the fact of such, as well as being a retired Deputy, it makes themfeel safer. They have mentioned this more than once and know I'm only a call and seconds away.
[/align]My kids are aware that if they were home when someone triedto break in, or sensed that there wasn't an adulthome, and who had bad intentions, they have access to my (or their) guns, and have the right to protect themselves if need be. I've taught them well, I hope, and only shoot if they have to.
[/align]The stigma of killing someone, even if it's a "justifiable shooting" can cause nightmares that'll follow you for the rest of your life. But, the alternative can also be a lifelong mental scar, if you survive the ordeal. A gun in hand at such times allows you to control the situation if you are prepared to "go the route", if itcomes to that.
[/align]I've spoken to many with the old bravado in asking "when is it okay to shoot the bad guy ?", I told them "when you have no other choice or alternative".....period.....and be mentally prepared to follow through if your "bluff is called".
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[/align]Do you really want toshoot & kill some stupid kid because he broke inand you caught him stealing your VCR ? Not me....ever......but, on the other hand,I might let him wonder if I would.....get me ? Hopefully a hard learned lesson there...
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[/align]Take care,
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