Anchoring caliber
 

Guys, I know this is the right forum for this but I know people hear generally know there stuff and I won't get as much media-tainted jargon.

I'm looking at getting a deer-dual/purpose rifle this summer. I cannot decide on a caliber. Coyotes, and deer are the game and shots may go as long as 300. I've looked at 30-06, 243, 308, 7mm-08, 25-06 and maybe a few others. I can't decide. I will handload. I'm beginning to be a fan of the small-fast crowd but come from the big-slow camp. This year I'm at school and all I have is a 22-250 since I come from a shotgun-only state. Took a doe yesterday at 40yards with it and some 64gr powerpoint. Dropped her in her tracks on a front chest shot. Needless to say I was pleased, and honestly, surprised. What calibers do you guys have experience with, in a commercially available gun, that finds that sweet spot between flat-recoil-and humane, quick kills?

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I like the 25-06. Should fit your bill nicely for varmits upto deer, 300 yards is no problem with this sucker and being you'll handload you have options to find the right bullet for various game.

If the 700 BDL I had chambered in a 2506 was left handedno doubt it would still be in my cabinet. A good buddy of mine has used his to anchor even moose, though a bit light. It is one of the most underrated deer cartridges IMHO and works JFL on yotes but the 22-250 you have is also a good one for this purpose as well.

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.270 WSM. Good luck.

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Hey Skeeter, forgot to mention I'm left handed too so it narrows things down. Winchester makes a few, and Browning too...but they have gone heavily on the new WSM and WSSm lines. BLRs are also an option. But I'm pretty much looking at the standards from Savage, Ruger (which does make a LH 25-06) and the standards from Remington.

I'm starting to feel like saying "heck with it, they've all killed thousands of deer" and just finding the best deal I can...take the money I save and get better glass and more reloading "stuff".

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.300 Winchester Magnum. About as humane as you can get.

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Also, using that 22-250 wasn't a very wise decision, do you know what couldv'e happened if you had taken a longer shot? Please for the sake of hunters don't do it again. I know it dropped her in her tracks, but I doubt it would past 50 yards. Anyway. good luck. And before I get a bunch of .22 cal. fanatics telling me how you dropped such and such at xx yards, i don't care.

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Excellent choice andi couldn't agree more! For the game your going after the 25.06 will fit the bill nicely.If you handload there's lots of good choices in bullets and in my experience withthe 25.06 it will shoot just about anything you feed it. I've settled in on the 110gr accubond for deer,itsvery accurate in my rem 700 classic and it's performance on game has been excellent for me.For coyotes i would probably go with a different bullet and lighten up in grains a little. Good luck in your choice.

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270 WSM. It's got incredible ballistics.

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Being a southpaw complicates it some. If you like in features and feeleither the ruger or savage thenthe 2506 will work great. If not then buy a standard offered in the others. With the 22-250 available for yotes you really can buy whatever you wish for deer and anything else down the road.

Can't fault your logic about spending more on glass and other stuff but don't settle on fit and feel either. One reason I don't own a 2506 is I can't find an off the shelf in LH and at this point don't want to pay to build one. My 7mm rem mag works fine for all the big game I hunt, fits me to a T and is extremely accurate. My confidence is very high with this rifle in my hands even though I have others I could use, it is the one I reach for.

Good luck

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Ridge runner, I agree with you while also seeing things from Chanteclars point. Regrettably, I've seen first-hand the difference two bullets of completely different designs can make. With .22s you have to but the bullet where it belongs, bullet construction put aside. I have no intentions of using that load for 200yard shots because my remington's 1-14" twist won't group them past 100. (and even then its 2" inch groups, huge for a .22...no tumbleing yet.) Seeing that a well place 64gr-.224 bullet can do gives me alot of confidence in a .257. I've already asked around my buddies at school. They give the general retoric of "25s awefully small" but none of them have any actual experience with it.

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.35 Remington

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I assume you are not hunting coyotes for fur as even a 243 will ruin a coyote pelt. With that said, check out the ballistics on the 7mm-08.

I've got one in Rem 700 Mtn LSS and shoot 100 grn Sierra HP'sfor coyotes and 145 Speer HotCor's and 154 Grn Hornady RNfor deer, hogs & bear. Whileall shoot less than MOA,the 100 Grn Sierra HP's are especially accurate.



Don't know how many manufacturers make lefties in 7mm-08, but it's a great caliber that should be considered for your application.

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I have .25-06 and love it. Loaded with 75 gr. V-maxes, it is great coyote medicine. With 117 gr. Accubonds, deer and hogs don't stand a chance.

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270 Win..

90 grain hollow points for all things small up to yotes.
140 TSX for most things in N.A., including elk and mooseif get into that.

With the popularity of this caliber, it might be easier to find a left handed gun that you'dlike.

But since you already have a .22-250.. I'd still recommend the 270.. That way you can just hone one load (140 TSX) and just stay with that for all things bigger than dogs.

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25-06, 270 and 7mm-08 would all be fine choices. The 7mm-08 with 100 grain for varmits and 140's for bigger game will sure get it done.

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Easy!

Use your 22-250 for coyotes. Buy a 270or 30-06 (either one is perfect) for deer. stop this insanity of asking for one caliber that is perfect for everything.

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Wasn't asking for a perfect anything. Heck, we can't even agree if there's one perfect caliber for one game. Let alone two! The reason I still wanted a "dual-purpose" per-say is because I'm going to college. Would like to keep the 22-250 back home. (Carrying 4-5 guns in the truck is cool...for all of about two times, then it gets old) I've already made my decision anyways. I'm just gonna look/shop around for the best deal on a LH "deer" gun and take the saved money and put it towards glass and reloading "stuff".

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Is my 300 WSM small-fast or big-slow?;)

Howw about easy-cheap 30'06? I've killed alot of deer with that round and a 4x scope. It was in a sporterized 1917 Enfield which held 7 rounds and had a last round hold open feature.

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soilarch,

It sounds as if you're looking for the cartridge with the greatest "knock down"! Well let me tell you, ther is no such critter on the face of the earth. Things die for one of two reasons. Disrupting the central nervous system, such as a bullet through the brain or spine. Or massive destruction of organs necessary for life, such as the lungs. As with people, the attitude of the critter at the time of the shot also has a bearing on how the animal goes belly up. An animal at rest will usually drop with a shot through both lungs. The same animal that has been spooked before being shot, and with the same hit, may cover a lot of territory before he quits. If you want them to drop, learn the anatomy of what you hunt and put your bullet exactly where it should go.

IMHO, the 24s are too smal for positive kills over the long run. An excellent cartridge would be the .280 Rem. You get a nice spectrum of bullets to cover your needs. The .308 or .30-06 are also excellent. Anything bigger is unnecessary overkill.

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The .308 is perfect for everything!

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That's a verifed fact, right?;)