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260 Rem brass
Does anyone know if outfits other than Remington, and Federal are making 260 Rem brass?
I figured Winchester would be producing brass and loaded ammunition by now. I used to be able to buy Federal brass but now can only find loaded ammo. Anyone know if Federal brass is available? |
RE: 260 Rem brass
In checking around, I can't find anything except Remington Brass for the 260
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RE: 260 Rem brass
Sucks doesn't it. I'm hoping Winchester and Nosler will start producing it.
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RE: 260 Rem brass
Dont you love how that Remington brass all measure exactly the same? :D;)
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RE: 260 Rem brass
Good one Doe Dumper!
I'm afraid to weigh my Remington 260 brass. Cause if I do, I'll probably spend the next few evenings on the lathe, re-barrelling to 308 Win. And I don't need another 308. I'm hoping Nosler starts making 260 brass. I have their cases in 308 and 280. I've weighed them all and even between batches the biggest variation I have is .4 grains. Wow! I maybe forcedto revert to necking up and trimming243 Win brass. |
RE: 260 Rem brass
Nosler finally emailed back. They plan to add 260 Rem brass in 2007. Finally!
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RE: 260 Rem brass
Do you think Nosler is actually manufacturing the brass? I truly do not know, but I would not bet against it being Federal-which is made by? This is not a debate or argument-more of an inquiry, because I truly do not know. Does anyone out there have any info. they can back up? Tom.
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RE: 260 Rem brass
Could be made by Federal. I doubt it.Don't care. I've switched to Nosler brass with every cartridge I have, that they produce brass for. It's the most consistent in weight and capacity I've ever seen. And they're not as brittle as Remington brass.
ORIGINAL: HEAD0001 Do you think Nosler is actually manufacturing the brass? I truly do not know, but I would not bet against it being Federal-which is made by? This is not a debate or argument-more of an inquiry, because I truly do not know. Does anyone out there have any info. they can back up? Tom. |
RE: 260 Rem brass
ORIGINAL: Doe Dumper Dont you love how that Remington brass all measure exactly the same? :D;) |
RE: 260 Rem brass
ORIGINAL: ranger140892 Does anyone know if outfits other than Remington, and Federal are making 260 Rem brass? I figured Winchester would be producing brass and loaded ammunition by now. I used to be able to buy Federal brass but now can only find loaded ammo. Anyone know if Federal brass is available? |
RE: 260 Rem brass
Hey guys,
I hear ya about remington brass. I don't like the stuff either. But for some cartridges Its my only choice (221 FB). Just to throw a little gas on the fire I want to share some of my experience and see what you guys think. I think that weight segregating, and checking capacity and all that stuff is an absolute waste of time. I took the time and wieghed a bunch of brass once. I and my friend wanted to due a little informal test. We weight segregated and all that good stuff. We shot some groups with brass that all weighed exactly the same, no variance to the tenth of a grain. then we shot some groups with brass varying in weight as much as 1.7 grain. The the groups with the the varying weights actually averaged smaller. Go figure. We also done tests with Flash holes deburred as opposed to not. Primer pockets uniformed as opposed to not. Bullets weighed and segregated as opposed to not. etc. When we got done we decided to just grab brass out of the bag and bullets out of the box and load. So, do as you wish, but I got better things to spend my time on. |
RE: 260 Rem brass
Thank you for allowing us to "do as we wish".
ORIGINAL: ShatoDavis Hey guys, I hear ya about remington brass. I don't like the stuff either. But for some cartridges Its my only choice (221 FB). Just to throw a little gas on the fire I want to share some of my experience and see what you guys think. I think that weight segregating, and checking capacity and all that stuff is an absolute waste of time. I took the time and wieghed a bunch of brass once. I and my friend wanted to due a little informal test. We weight segregated and all that good stuff. We shot some groups with brass that all weighed exactly the same, no variance to the tenth of a grain. then we shot some groups with brass varying in weight as much as 1.7 grain. The the groups with the the varying weights actually averaged smaller. Go figure. We also done tests with Flash holes deburred as opposed to not. Primer pockets uniformed as opposed to not. Bullets weighed and segregated as opposed to not. etc. When we got done we decided to just grab brass out of the bag and bullets out of the box and load. So, do as you wish, but I got better things to spend my time on. |
RE: 260 Rem brass
I do not weigh cases, however I do weigh bullets.
When I am loading for ultimate accuracy, I definitely measure case capacity. For accuracy I definitely clean out flash holes. Overall length is very important, as it is connected to bullet retention. I believe neck concentricity is very important. I have never seen a bag of brass where all the necks were concentric. And where there were not some burrs in the flash holes. And a few shoulders were not dented. One of the major factors of pressure is volume. One of the major factors of accuracy is consistent pressure. If you are just loading straight out of the bag without any case preparation, then you are definitely losing some accuracy. Sorry. Tom. |
RE: 260 Rem brass
Thanks for the Nobel prize winning lesson. All those ballisticians, bench rest competitors, and military techs are going to be heart broken to find that case weight is not relative to case capacity, and has no effect on accuracy..
ORIGINAL: HEAD0001 I do not weigh cases, however I do weigh bullets. When I am loading for ultimate accuracy, I definitely measure case capacity. For accuracy I definitely clean out flash holes. Overall length is very important, as it is connected to bullet retention. I believe neck concentricity is very important. I have never seen a bag of brass where all the necks were concentric. And where there were not some burrs in the flash holes. And a few shoulders were not dented. One of the major factors of pressure is volume. One of the major factors of accuracy is consistent pressure. If you are just loading straight out of the bag without any case preparation, then you are definitely losing some accuracy. Sorry. Tom. |
RE: 260 Rem brass
I think if you give your opinion about something, then you should have some experience. I have never weighed cases, so I did not feel qualified to discuss it. I have had experience with the other things I spoke of. I did not give any comment at all about case weighing. Pro or con. So if you are going to make a smart*** remark, at least base it on facts. Tom.
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RE: 260 Rem brass
You could probably make some from 308 brass. Every makes those.;)
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RE: 260 Rem brass
Actually 308 brass doesn't work so well. It's shorter than 260 brassand when you neck down, you have to turn case necks. 243 brass works well after necking and trimming. I've got some already, but I don't like having mis-stamped brass around. There are just too many different cartridges in the house and shop, and the potential for disaster is too great.
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RE: 260 Rem brass
Tom, what are you talking about? I didn't mean to hurt your feelings. I was just making a joke. I guess without facial expressions and tone of voice, jokes can be a little abrasive. Sorry.
Now, if I wanted to punk you out, I might have said something like:...Well I guessif youthink thathitting a pie plate twice at 30 feet is accurate, you don't need to weigh cases. ORIGINAL: HEAD0001 I think if you give your opinion about something, then you should have some experience. I have never weighed cases, so I did not feel qualified to discuss it. I have had experience with the other things I spoke of. I did not give any comment at all about case weighing. Pro or con. So if you are going to make a smart*** remark, at least base it on facts. Tom. |
RE: 260 Rem brass
Hey guys,
I'm not saying that everybody else is wrong. I'm just saying that for me the gains aren't worth the effort. I'm playing with accurized rem 700 actions and inferior beches etc. So there are other areas that I could spend time and money on that will give me a greater return on investment so to speak. I read a very good book written by a 100 yard benchrester (the name alludes me)awhile back, and he concurred with my assessment. His point was that the variations in speed (due to capacity variations in the brass) are so minimal that it has almost no effect on accuracy at 100 yards or even 200. Now when the 1000 yard boys play those defiation start to show. So he doesn't weight segregate but can understand why the 1000 yard crowd does. |
RE: 260 Rem brass
Ya know ShatoDavis you may be right. And I may be a nut. But I actually look forward to an evening when I can have a good steak for dinner. And then spend a couple of good quit hours in my reloading room. If all I did was drop powder, and seat a bullet, then my time would go by too fast. When I am in my reloading room, I am like a kid in front of a Nintendo. Ya know factory ammo has been improving tremendously, and I doubt if they do much case prep.
I only have one question. How would they sell all that other stuff to us,if they don't convince us that we need it? Tom. |
RE: 260 Rem brass
Midsouth has Nosler, 260 Rem brass listed as "on order".
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