RCBS makes me want to puke.....
10-05-2006, 11:20 PM
#41
Nontypical Buck
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RE: RCBS makes me want to puke.....
Isn't it amazing that it's cheaper to ship something that heavyacross the Pacific, than to pay workers to build it here.
10-06-2006, 03:08 AM
#42
Nontypical Buck
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RE: RCBS makes me want to puke.....
ofcourse its cheaper why else would they do it. its so much cheaper because China still uses slave labor for alot of their production. Also the average factory worker in china makes about the equivalent of 50 cents an hour. reason why wages are so low in china is because there are more people then available jobs and it will always be this way nomatter how many jobs we send to china it will never be enough to even things out since china makes up two thirds of the worlds population. somebody posted earlier that they didnt care if things were made in china because the chinese have to eat too from that aspect I kinda agree atleast we are helping them out kinda... but not really.... but thats not why I care wether if something is made here or in china. My reasons for not liking stuff made in china as listed.
1. takes away American factory workers jobs.
2. Quality control over there is so poor, even with product inspections to make sure things are up to par and still junk falls through the cracks you may not notice it right away but soon after things may fail prematurely from poor craftsmenship or imporoper materials or alloys used in the product.
3.The chinese still use lead paint on all painted products, even on childrens toys. Because there are no regulations on lead in china. most people dont bother to read the small fine print on the back of the package which states "this products contains a chemical known to the state of california to cause cancer and reproductive harm" the print is so small in most cases its understandable why you didnt see it. then your kids are putting these painted toy cars in their mouths and are being exposed to lead. its absolutely rediculous if things are gonna be made it china atleast the paints and chemicals needs to be regulated.
1. takes away American factory workers jobs.
2. Quality control over there is so poor, even with product inspections to make sure things are up to par and still junk falls through the cracks you may not notice it right away but soon after things may fail prematurely from poor craftsmenship or imporoper materials or alloys used in the product.
3.The chinese still use lead paint on all painted products, even on childrens toys. Because there are no regulations on lead in china. most people dont bother to read the small fine print on the back of the package which states "this products contains a chemical known to the state of california to cause cancer and reproductive harm" the print is so small in most cases its understandable why you didnt see it. then your kids are putting these painted toy cars in their mouths and are being exposed to lead. its absolutely rediculous if things are gonna be made it china atleast the paints and chemicals needs to be regulated.
10-06-2006, 05:04 AM
#43
Fork Horn
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RE: RCBS makes me want to puke.....
i have a knife that my brother picked up somewhere and it says "USA SABER" in red white and blue on it then at the base of the blade etched in the metal it says "Made in China" i was like wth ? thats the stupidest thing ive seen USA SABER and made in china thats just stupid if your gonna call it that at least make it in the USA....
10-06-2006, 05:08 AM
#44
Nontypical Buck
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RE: RCBS makes me want to puke.....
Highdesertwolf
I would argue with you on your last 2 points.
I sell against Chinese imported products. Unfortunately I have noticed the quality of workmanship has gone up in the last year or so and rejected product has dropped. They still have a way to go but improvements are being made.
The product I see does not have a high quality paint on it but it is not lead paint
I would argue with you on your last 2 points.
I sell against Chinese imported products. Unfortunately I have noticed the quality of workmanship has gone up in the last year or so and rejected product has dropped. They still have a way to go but improvements are being made.
The product I see does not have a high quality paint on it but it is not lead paint
10-07-2006, 03:57 PM
#45
Nontypical Buck
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RE: RCBS makes me want to puke.....
ORIGINAL: stubblejumper
If you want lower prices,expect the companies to source out to cheap labour.
If you want lower prices,expect the companies to source out to cheap labour.
Problem is your paying top dollar for junk.......
Maybe we should learn something here....
Lets export our countries junk at top dollar and keep the good stuff for ourselves.......
10-07-2006, 04:07 PM
#46
Giant Nontypical
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RE: RCBS makes me want to puke.....
Yeah well I could care less about price.......I'm willing to pay top dollar for quality as along as what I'M PAYING FOR IS QUALITY
10-07-2006, 04:08 PM
#47
Nontypical Buck
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RE: RCBS makes me want to puke.....
ORIGINAL: Hairtrigger
Highdesertwolf
I would argue with you on your last 2 points.
I sell against Chinese imported products. Unfortunately I have noticed the quality of workmanship has gone up in the last year or so and rejected product has dropped. They still have a way to go but improvements are being made.
The product I see does not have a high quality paint on it but it is not lead paint
Highdesertwolf
I would argue with you on your last 2 points.
I sell against Chinese imported products. Unfortunately I have noticed the quality of workmanship has gone up in the last year or so and rejected product has dropped. They still have a way to go but improvements are being made.
The product I see does not have a high quality paint on it but it is not lead paint
I'm a fabricater in a Alum Curtainwall Ind.....
Thickness tolerences and width tolerences and (the fact these 24ft lenghts are warped) are so far off we have to drill by hand cause the C&C can't do it to the tolerences needed....
What could is it getting precise machery if the material isn't.....
It will get better, I'm sure. Japan did it. Problem is, Companies will move elsewhere for cheep labour forces...
In 10years I predict Africa.
10-07-2006, 04:19 PM
#48
Nontypical Buck
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RE: RCBS makes me want to puke.....
ORIGINAL: stubblejumper
Well it's obvious that most people disagree ,if they didn't,there wouldn't be a market for all of the imported junk.If there was no market,they wouldn't be importing so much junk,now would they.
Yeah well I could care less about price.......I'm willing to pay top dollar for quality as along as what I'M PAYING FOR IS QUALITY
STUPIDIS, IS WHAT STUPID DOES......
When I buy anything,I look at where its made first....
10-07-2006, 11:18 PM
#50
Giant Nontypical
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RE: RCBS makes me want to puke.....
Just curious as to how you guys choose riflescopes since almost all scopes use imported lenses including leupold,even though they say that they are made in America.
