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2feathers 03-03-2006 11:32 AM

Seating Depth Help
 
I have a 30 year old Rem.700(30/06) that I have put over 2000 rounds through.After purchasing it new, I checked the seating depth by placing a 150gr. head in front of a fired brass & then chambering the round. I reduced the length by 1/32".
The rifle shot extremely well for all these many years. However, I recently repeated the above exercise & the bullet was not pushed back into the brass at all. I used 150gr. & 165gr. bullets. It appears that there is excessive space between the shoulder of the round & the rifling. This may be due to wear.
While the accuracy of the rifle has not been affected, does this present a dangerous situation? Should I see a gunsmith? As best as I can tell, there does not appear to be a headspace problem.

Roskoe 03-03-2006 04:49 PM

RE: Seating Depth Help
 
This is not unusual. The throat is wearing, and allowing bullets to be seated outlonger before they engage the rifling. As long as headspace is OK and accuracy is acceptable, its not broke; although it may be half way or more towards being shot out.

sabotloader 03-03-2006 07:36 PM

RE: Seating Depth Help
 
2feathers

Roskoe - nailed it... could not have said it better. But then Roskoe as a gunsmith has a whole lot of experiance...

Throat errosion - normal occurs faster in some guns than others...

2feathers 03-03-2006 09:04 PM

RE: Seating Depth Help
 
Thanks guys for your quick response to my situation. You have put my mind at ease.
I guess I'll have to think about having my rifle rebarrelled if it starts to lose accuracy.

48thguns 03-06-2006 06:10 PM

RE: Seating Depth Help
 
Well for starters, you need to get an OAL gauge....1/32 of an inch is a huge space between the bullet and the lands, 50 thousanths is alot. No wonder you are experiencing erosion.....too bad cause it's too late now....the damage has been done. Good luck and regards, Rick.

PaJack 03-07-2006 08:14 AM

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FYI...;)

http://www.larrywillis.com/OAL.html

Roskoe 03-07-2006 08:26 PM

RE: Seating Depth Help
 
Good article. When I build a custom rifle, I usually take the piece I cut off the muzzle end and run the chamber reamer into it until it just cuts the shoulder - then quit. The creates a guage that allows the handloader to calculate the overall length at which the bullet will engage the lands. But in the case of a factory rifle or a custom rifle where the reamer was not used to create a guage, the method described should work great. Thanks again. Roskoe.

Dan in Alaska 03-10-2006 11:16 AM

RE: Seating Depth Help
 
Thanks for the article PaJack. I like the idea of using the Dremel tool to slice the case neck. This probably works better than my low-brow technique. I use a fired case and ding the neck to make it slightly out-of-round, just enough to hold the bullet.

Roskoe, I like your idea of using the cut-off end of the barrel to make a case gauge. If I ever get another rifle re-barreled, I will ask for this.

Solitary Man 03-10-2006 02:19 PM

RE: Seating Depth Help
 

ORIGINAL: 48thguns

Well for starters, you need to get an OAL gauge....1/32 of an inch is a huge space between the bullet and the lands, 50 thousanths is alot. No wonder you are experiencing erosion.....too bad cause it's too late now....the damage has been done. Good luck and regards, Rick.
Sorry, but 1/32" is not a "huge" space between bullet and lands. 1/32"equates to about 30 thousandths, which is not a bad place to start (or stay at) at all.That's about where I normally start. As far as I know, throat erosion has virtually nothing whatsoeverto do with bullet seating depth.You shoot enough rounds through a rifle and the throat's going to erode, period.The bigger the case in relation to bore size, thefaster it will erode. Therefore, a .300 RUM will be shot out way before a .308 Win. will be, assuming neither is abused otherwise.

bigcountry 03-10-2006 02:42 PM

RE: Seating Depth Help
 
On my 300RUM's I had, I had over .2" jump to the rifleing. And it still shot sub.7MOA regularly. I started getting heat cracks in the neck after 500-600 rounds. And accuracy started falling.


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