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tow2atm 01-13-2006 03:39 PM

TRAP LOADS
 
I'm looking for some advice on some trap loads?
I'm looking for a load that does about 1250f.p.s.-1300f.p.s.
I shoot 16yds. and handicap which averages out to 23-25 yards sometimes more when were on a role.
Right now I use a MEC steelmaster loader with the #28 bushing,titewad powder by hodgen,winchester 209 primers,and 7 1/2 shot.I mostly use Remington STS hulls and clay buster wads 4 and 8 peddle. (not sure if 8 peddle is real nessesary)I also have been using a full choke.
I open to any suggestions and or warnings.
Thanks,tow2atm

the Razorhead 01-13-2006 07:45 PM

RE: TRAP LOADS
 
we use 16gr of 700x with a WAA wad and 1 1/8oz of shot...
I want to say it's a 27 bushing, but I wouldn't swear to it... I'd have to go look and I don't feel like tearing out my charge bar at the moment.. maybe the next time I clean the press...

anyway, it should net you just under 1150 fps muzzle...

bobeyerite 01-13-2006 09:06 PM

RE: TRAP LOADS
 
Get some Hodgdon Longshot, that powder will give you the loads you want. Go to hodgdon's website for reloading data. It is all right there.

STICK SHOOTER 78 01-13-2006 10:07 PM

RE: TRAP LOADS
 
cant tell you the best load for what you want but a bit of friendly advice from experince for 16 yard line use a 1150 load will help from developing a flinch but something that may help pick up a few birds even at the 25 use a modified choke unless your gun is like mine and a fixed full everyone told me to use a full when i got my new gun so i got a fixed choke it works great from the 27 but i did drop a few on 16

sabotloader 01-13-2006 11:16 PM

RE: TRAP LOADS
 
STICK SHOOTER 78

Personally I think this is really good advice, the right velocity the right choke for 16 to 20 yards - I would add if you get and opportunity try some 8 1/2 shot.

Pawildman 01-14-2006 08:29 AM

RE: TRAP LOADS
 
Speed is not as important as pattern density. You don't want a load that blows holes in your string. Have you patterned your loads to be sure this is not happening? I used to shoot a LOT of trap, and the load that worked best for me, even with "yardage" as well as 16 yds. was 17.5 gr. of 700X, Rem. RXP wads, #209 Win. primers, and 7 1/2 shot, 1 1/8 oz. All stuffed into AA hulls through my MEC 650.
I haven't loaded this for many years, as my interest took different turns. I don't know if RXP wads are still available. If not, AA wads should work also. Just check your shot column height.
Keep poppin' at them------it's a great shooting sport!!!!!!

Dsquared 01-22-2006 11:14 PM

RE: TRAP LOADS
 
The 8 peddle claybuster wads are windjammer clones. They are one of my favorites.
I do not care for the high velocity 3+ dramloads for serious Trap shooting. For me they lead to flinching problems.
You mentioned that you are looking for the right bushing. I have found thebushing charts to be HIGHLY UNRELIABLE. A 1250 to 1300 fps load is a hot load.
I would STRONGLY recomend that you purchase a reloading scale and bracket ALL chart recomendations 2 above and 2 below what a chart says. I learned this the hard way with my MEC 9000G. Do not go for a hot load without verifying the charge using a powder scale.
Most of the claybuster buster wads come with a reloading info flyer inside the bag of wads.
The first load I would try for a high velocity 1 1/8 oz load would be a load using Alliant UNIQUE or Hodgdon International Clays. I would avoid the new Win AA Shells for hot reloads. Go with the STS hulls.
Check out the Alliant and Hodgdon web sites for reloading info. I have couple reloading manuals, and high perfomance loads are listed, but not for the claybuster wads. I would advise you not to swap components (hulls, wad & primer) from pressure tested loads published.
More than one money / turkey shooter has blown up his shotgun EVERY year using homebrewed hot loads for one reason or the other. This can be confirmed by doing a search on www.trapshooters.com .

D-squared

48thguns 01-23-2006 06:23 PM

RE: TRAP LOADS
 
I think you have a fine load there. Titewad is good stuff. Have you chronied the load? Anything around 1200'/sec is fine. Regards, Rick.

tow2atm 01-23-2006 06:58 PM

RE: TRAP LOADS
 
I dont have access to a chronograph. Maybe I'll just stick with what I got set up now. I like the Titewad powder cause it seems to burn pretty clean. I also have my press set up for STS hulls I think the AA are a hair longer. At least thats what it looks like after I crimp a few of them.
Would I see a differance in anything if I used a differant primer?
I guess I'm not sure why I was looking for a differant load, I guess I wanted to try something differant and wanted to see what other people are using.
Thanks for the info!
tow2atm


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