By the way, have you ever sent a gun back to weatherby, very painful and did not fix the problems. I ended up selling and now have a sako 75. No more problems.

When you get older one day, you will learn to not believe every marketing thing out there. Especially if its on print.

We are all glad that you share with us on what you have found that works for you..In tha respect thats what all of us are doing,is it not!Everybody strives to do better,and looks for answers to problems. Sometimes the experts are right,for thats what they do for a living.One must not challenge everything nor put it under a microscope nor a good pair of glasses if the facts are there.

Just wondered did you read about Wby rifles before you bought one? You must have to llike them,and you believed what they said? Then look in the mirror! I do have quite a few yrs on you and i was a top professional in the trade before you entered the scene.How many guns have you cut a chamber in? Repaired(professionally) and never had any come backs in 40yrs.? Just admit YOU don,t know it all,nor will i but give some people a little credit,rather giving all to yourself!!

Van, we disagree here. Its that simple. All I can account for is what works for me. And worked well. I can't give you credit, as I have not encountered your chambers or reamers, or anything about you. My gunsmiths, both disagree with you. They both mainly build varmit rifles. They both are around 60. So should I take the advise of only you, an internet poster or people who has built rifles for me, that has worked great? It really that simple. You want me to listen to all you say. But I can't, your just like me, a faceless internet poster.

I would love to give you credit, but havn't seen or heard of your work ever.

All this page is, is opinions. People can take it or leave it.

It doesn't take a gunsmith to build a good load or tell them what works for them. My gunsmith looks for me alot to report my loads with new calibers. That may work fine for nosler, but I have been there and done that.

I,m sure you have been there,and done that.I haven,t heard of your gunsmiths,but i have worked for the big names in the business,and have taught gunsmith school,in one of the top schools in the country.I,m sure your gunsmiths are fine,and have done a great job on your varmit rifles. They are fun to shoot,as well as big game here,out west. No know how much hunting they have in Maryland,but many i have met while working in Wash.D.C. i noted that nobody on the east coast thinks that anybody west of the hudson river knows anything.Just an observation while there. The observation is that i am talking about you,not your gunsmiths that do work for you.You haven,t been there,and you haven,t done that!Thank God!!You have to tell your gunsmith,what all your results are,then how does he know what to do? Does he get all his info from you? If so,then i see why you like him so much!!Two bodies and one mind,and he isn,t using his. Lets just as you stated in the past!!Try to keep a distance from each other,and as of the present the seperation of the east coast and west coast is just fine with me!I will tell my friends,and you can tell yours. I don,t really need to help people or at least try to help them,but i was trying to do so. I know you will also maintain your ability to tell everyone the truth according to you. Be my guest,and i still will enjoy to humor myself,with future words of wisdom from you.

Not from MD. From Ky. lived in Tx, Chicago, and NC. Thanks Van, you helped me show my point very well.

Its not quite the way you portray. I can help you understand thistrivial situation. Onegun I had built. My gunsmith built a 300RUM for me right when they came out. He never worked up a load for that round. There are not too many smiths that has shot every round there is.So he calls to checkup to make sure his customer is happy. And has another customer wanting that round. So I explain to him where I hit pressure signs, powders I used and long range results. He noted to see if the short throats are better or if the standard clymer reamer with freebore was ok. Cause he was considering having another made for him with a very short throat.Also wanted to know results from Newfoundland where I go moose hunting and Wy pronghorn. Samewith WSM's. Do you expect every gunsmith to own every caliber he has evercut? Kinda unrealistic. I have not bought varmit calibers from either. I just know thats what they love to do. Which really has nothing to do with anything but for some strange reason you brought it up. But anyway, I don't think the situation is very odd, having a gunsmith check up on his customers and curious about feedback of a rifle and maybe what loads shot the best. It may be odd to you. Who knows about you.

Don't go down to DC or New York, can't help you understand the people there. I am sure they are not as you portray. Probably all fine people, just dont run in there circles.

I guess I am not sure what you are wanting? I work in CO or spend alot of time in the West. So I can't abide to your request.I put down and work on the fiber you use to talk on the phone. So yes you need me out there. And I think I fit in nicely in the mountainsout there.Never knew you from west or whatever since you don't post your location. Never understood that from people, but whatever.

Van, your a strange cat, thats for sure. But God Bless ya anyway. Wish you the best of luck with yourgunsmithing business.

You stated that you were from maryland in your bio,thats why i said maryland.No biggy,I can see that no matter what you Always have to have the last word.Just one simple question. Do you ever admit though when your wrong??? Do you really enjoy burning up all that unneeded powder,just so you can shoot a RUM? Well enough of this tit for tat,im above that. You have a good night,good day tommorow,and great hunting trips in the future.And thats the rest of the story.

Yea, the 300RUM was pretty fun. I enjoyed it and its performanceis amazing at long range on moose. But its very hard on barrels. And I didn't enjoy that. I currently have a house in MD. Got to move where the work is, and it moves often.