Police officers ought to be V-E-R-Y careful
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Nontypical Buck
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I will no longer adhere to the law. And if you try and stop me, I may use violence -- i'm getting SICK TO DEATH OF THIS SCHIT.
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Mexican in U.S. Army Sworn in As Citizen
Wed Feb 11,11:13 PM ET Add U.S. National - AP to My Yahoo!
By MELANTHIA MITCHELL, Associated Press Writer
SEATTLE - A Mexican who joined the U.S. Army and fought in Iraq (news - web sites) after buying a fake green card for $50 will be allowed to remain in the United States.
Pfc. Juan Escalante took the citizenship oath at an afternoon ceremony. Earlier in the day the 19-year-old passed — with perfect scores — a required civics and history test.
The teen held the green certificate confirming his citizenship in his right hand and twirled a small American flag in his left. He quietly shed tears after the ceremony as he hugged his parents.
"It's just paper but, I don't know, it feels good," he said.
The Army normally requires that any illegal immigrants who get caught after fraudulently enlisting be discharged. Once discharged, they may be deported.
But the military helped Escalante pursue citizenship, arguing that he was a valuable soldier who would do the country more good as a citizen than as a deported immigrant.
However, immigration authorities are still planning to deport his parents. Escalante's attorney said he will appeal that decision.
There are 37,401 noncitizens in the active-duty military, and about 3,000 served in the war in Iraq. It is not known how many are illegal immigrants.
President Bush (news - web sites) signed an executive order in 2002 speeding the citizenship process for active-duty personnel. The order helped Escalante avoid the long process of having to get a green card before seeking citizenship.
Escalante was 4 when he crossed illegally into the United States with his mother. He grew up in Seattle and signed a four-year contract with the Army after graduating from high school in 2002.
He served as a mechanic in Kuwait and Iraq for four months as a member of the 1st Brigade of the Army's 3rd Infantry Division, which launched the ground invasion that began the war.
His parents have lived in the United States for 15 years and have two younger U.S.-born children, ages 10 and 12. An immigration judge said the couple failed to show that being sent back to Mexico would cause exceptional hardship to their younger children.
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Mexican in U.S. Army Sworn in As Citizen
Wed Feb 11,11:13 PM ET Add U.S. National - AP to My Yahoo!
By MELANTHIA MITCHELL, Associated Press Writer
SEATTLE - A Mexican who joined the U.S. Army and fought in Iraq (news - web sites) after buying a fake green card for $50 will be allowed to remain in the United States.
Pfc. Juan Escalante took the citizenship oath at an afternoon ceremony. Earlier in the day the 19-year-old passed — with perfect scores — a required civics and history test.
The teen held the green certificate confirming his citizenship in his right hand and twirled a small American flag in his left. He quietly shed tears after the ceremony as he hugged his parents.
"It's just paper but, I don't know, it feels good," he said.
The Army normally requires that any illegal immigrants who get caught after fraudulently enlisting be discharged. Once discharged, they may be deported.
But the military helped Escalante pursue citizenship, arguing that he was a valuable soldier who would do the country more good as a citizen than as a deported immigrant.
However, immigration authorities are still planning to deport his parents. Escalante's attorney said he will appeal that decision.
There are 37,401 noncitizens in the active-duty military, and about 3,000 served in the war in Iraq. It is not known how many are illegal immigrants.
President Bush (news - web sites) signed an executive order in 2002 speeding the citizenship process for active-duty personnel. The order helped Escalante avoid the long process of having to get a green card before seeking citizenship.
Escalante was 4 when he crossed illegally into the United States with his mother. He grew up in Seattle and signed a four-year contract with the Army after graduating from high school in 2002.
He served as a mechanic in Kuwait and Iraq for four months as a member of the 1st Brigade of the Army's 3rd Infantry Division, which launched the ground invasion that began the war.
His parents have lived in the United States for 15 years and have two younger U.S.-born children, ages 10 and 12. An immigration judge said the couple failed to show that being sent back to Mexico would cause exceptional hardship to their younger children.
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Nontypical Buck
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Lets just get this over with and grant every mexican a US citizen. The way we are doing it is like trying to very slowly take a bandaid off, lets just rip that baby off and get on with our lives. Or, lets pull our heads out of our a$$es and take our country back. I don't know, I could go either way

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How about we allow concealed carry in every state and allow the citizens to carry out the CONSTITUTIONAL EDICT of enforcing the borders.....
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And what really frosts my balls is that when my ancestors came over here, they were the "shifty Germans" that couldn't get schit for jobs.
they had to LEGALLY AS CITIZENS find a way to survive.
now these gawd damn illegals are getting AFFIRMATIVE ACTION.
BITE MY ROYAL AZZ.
they had to LEGALLY AS CITIZENS find a way to survive.
now these gawd damn illegals are getting AFFIRMATIVE ACTION.
BITE MY ROYAL AZZ.
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I doubt that his parents will get deported. Why? Because they have two kids that were born on U.S. soil, making their kids by default U.S. citizens. Since the government absolutely can NOT deport a citizen (because as citizens they have the right to live here), and since they are both minors, the government won't deport their parents either.
As far as the guy being granted citizenship while serving, I guess I don't have a problem with it under his circumstances. I look at it like this, if you come to this country and then voluntarily and faithfully serve in the military, then you've earned your citizenship. He's done a lot more to earn his right to live here that most of the natural born citizens who take their rights for granted. His service proves to me that he didn't come to this country just to take advantage of it. He was willing to earn his citizenship. For that I'm willing to forgive the fact that his parents brought him here illegally 17 years ago.
That being said, I still think that we need to lock down our borders against illegals while still providing provision for people willing to work hard for their citizenship like Pfc. Escalante to enter.
Mike
As far as the guy being granted citizenship while serving, I guess I don't have a problem with it under his circumstances. I look at it like this, if you come to this country and then voluntarily and faithfully serve in the military, then you've earned your citizenship. He's done a lot more to earn his right to live here that most of the natural born citizens who take their rights for granted. His service proves to me that he didn't come to this country just to take advantage of it. He was willing to earn his citizenship. For that I'm willing to forgive the fact that his parents brought him here illegally 17 years ago.
That being said, I still think that we need to lock down our borders against illegals while still providing provision for people willing to work hard for their citizenship like Pfc. Escalante to enter.
Mike
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And what really frosts my balls is that when my ancestors came over here, they were the "shifty Germans" that couldn't get schit for jobs.
The LEGAL Japanese families from WWll, that suffered discrimination amongst other things, are getting restitution from the Government, but are we Americans of German descent, whose ancestors were discriminated and had their land taken away too, getting restitution? NO.
In my opinion, thanks for the help kid, but you are still an illegal immigrant. Toodles!
Also we shouldn't give restitution to any group of people that were discriminated against Japs, Mexicans, Germans, etc because we did what we did for the betterment of the people at that time.
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Nontypical Buck
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In my opinion, thanks for the help kid, but you are still an illegal immigrant. Toodles!
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I will no longer adhere to the law. And if you try and stop me, I may use violence -- i'm getting SICK TO DEATH OF THIS SCHIT.
If three hots and a cot are what you are looking for....just go down to the local cop shop and slug the first officer you see.
I got several engineers working for me....most of them are pretty high strung too. I have my theory about that, but I will just keep it under my hat.
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I got several engineers working for me....most of them are pretty high strung too. I have my theory about that, but I will just keep it under my hat.